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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: helpplease on April 21, 2018, 10:36:35 AM
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If I recall correctly, Gural made it clear to the BigM regular driving colony that if you drove at Yonkers on Friday & or Saturday night when no stake races were carded you would be persona non grata at the BigM. With that in mind I'm curious what will happen with Scotty Z & Timmy T since both raced last night at Yonkers with no stake races carded.
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i think gural will welcome back timmy teatrick but think scott zeron will be banded
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I don’t think either one cares
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IF YOU CAN MAKE AS MUCH AS JASIN NO TALENT BARTLETTT MAKES, WHY RACE AT ANY OF THE JEWS TRACKS?
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Too much RACISM on this WORTHLESS
FORUM
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Too much RACISM on this WORTHLESS
FORUM
build that wall
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build that wall
Didn't Israel build a wall to "protect" themselves? I'm curious WHY no one complained about that?
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I don’t think either one cares
I agree
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Scotty is only racing in stakes at the swamp,,, nothing else
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Scotty is only racing in stakes at the swamp,,, nothing else
So are you saying Gural is backing down?
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i heard scotty will no longer be welcome at the meadowlands,but tim teatrick will on occasions
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i heard scotty will no longer be welcome at the meadowlands,but tim teatrick will on occasions
If this becomes correct, I'm wondering what the difference is?
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If this becomes correct, I'm wondering what the difference is?
The difference is WHO gural wants or likes. He picks and chooses who to enforce his edicts upon.
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It could get interesting if Gural tells Antinochi they can't use Scotty! 2 huge egos at war
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It could get interesting if Gural tells Antinochi they can't use Scotty! 2 huge egos at war
Or maybe Antonacci will tell Gural he is not welcome to race at Antonacci's track (The Red Mile)
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It could get interesting if Gural tells Antinochi they can't use Scotty! 2 huge egos at war
He can’t keep them from driving there in stake races! He tried that bullshit with Sears a few years back and it failed miserably
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He can’t keep them from driving there in stake races! He tried that bullshit with Sears a few years back and it failed miserably
Why can't he?
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Because Taylor says so.
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Because Taylor says so.
If I remember correctly, Gural barred both Sears & Brennan & until they came back on their knees & confessed their sins they did not drive. I can't remember Taylor having any say in the matter? Gural may have private property rights?
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If I remember correctly, Gural barred both Sears & Brennan & until they came back on their knees & confessed their sins they did not drive. I can't remember Taylor having any say in the matter? Gural may have private property rights?
Doesn’t seem that Sears was on his knees. What Jeff forgets is money is what makes the world go around. Just because Jeff investment didn’t go as he planned isn’t anyone’s fault except his own. The drivers have to make a living and unless they have some sort of infraction than it is total BS he is trying to pull. You don’t see Jeff’s horses only racing at his tracks why because Jeff wants to race for higher purses so why can’t drivers. Jeff’s problem is he wants everyone to accommodate him and when they don’t he tries makes these stupid rules. Jeff needs drivers more than the drivers need Jeff.
http://www.harnessracing.com/news/guralsearscometoresolutionissuestatement.html
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Doesn’t seem that Sears was on his knees. What Jeff forgets is money is what makes the world go around. Just because Jeff investment didn’t go as he planned isn’t anyone’s fault except his own. The drivers have to make a living and unless they have some sort of infraction than it is total BS he is trying to pull. You don’t see Jeff’s horses only racing at his tracks why because Jeff wants to race for higher purses so why can’t drivers. Jeff’s problem is he wants everyone to accommodate him and when they don’t he tries makes these stupid rules. Jeff needs drivers more than the drivers need Jeff.
http://www.harnessracing.com/news/guralsearscometoresolutionissuestatement.html
Believe me, it was Sears making the apologies.
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I DON'T CARE WHAT RULES HE COMES UP WITH FOR HIS TRACKS, BUT IF HE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH RULES- I WANT TO SEE THEM ENFORCED AND ENFORCED EQUALLY, NOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHO GETS PUNISHED.
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I DON'T CARE WHAT RULES HE COMES UP WITH FOR HIS TRACKS, BUT IF HE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH RULES- I WANT TO SEE THEM ENFORCED AND ENFORCED EQUALLY, NOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHO GETS PUNISHED.
your not gonna see him be equal
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Doesn’t seem that Sears was on his knees. What Jeff forgets is money is what makes the world go around. Just because Jeff investment didn’t go as he planned isn’t anyone’s fault except his own. The drivers have to make a living and unless they have some sort of infraction than it is total BS he is trying to pull. You don’t see Jeff’s horses only racing at his tracks why because Jeff wants to race for higher purses so why can’t drivers. Jeff’s problem is he wants everyone to accommodate him and when they don’t he tries makes these stupid rules. Jeff needs drivers more than the drivers need Jeff.
http://www.harnessracing.com/news/guralsearscometoresolutionissuestatement.html
And I hope you don't think Sears is a friend of Gural's?
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your not gonna see him be equal
I agree
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I DON'T CARE WHAT RULES HE COMES UP WITH FOR HIS TRACKS, BUT IF HE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH RULES- I WANT TO SEE THEM ENFORCED AND ENFORCED EQUALLY, NOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHO GETS PUNISHED.
Best of luck with that. Gural bars Allard, Rucker, and others, but employs Burke, and Miller. Maybe Gural should star another GoFundMe page.
Sincerely, Silent One
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Believe me, it was Sears making the apologies.
Apologies for what choosing to make more money at a different track.
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Jeff needs to have A 2 week meet like Lexington does
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Apologies for what choosing to make more money at a different track.
Apologies for driving privilege at the BigM
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Apologies for driving privilege at the BigM
Give me a break there is no rule that says a driver has to be dedicated to a specific track! Get Jeff’s dick out of your mouth. How many times in your life have you switched jobs for less money
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Give me a break there is no rule that says a driver has to be dedicated to a specific track! Get Jeff’s dick out of your mouth. How many times in your life have you switched jobs for less money
LOL, you gotta relax. I'm no Gural fan, far from it. All I'm saying is Gural makes his own rules & if someone doesn't like those rules, that is their problem, not Gural's. Gural is a bully & a hypocrite imo but he has the power & loves using it. Gural couldn't care less if Sears ever stepped foot on any of Gural's tracks ever again but Sears does care. If Sears didn't care he would have told Gural to go f himself but Sears didn't do that. That's all.
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I DON'T CARE WHAT RULES HE COMES UP WITH FOR HIS TRACKS, BUT IF HE IS GOING TO COME UP WITH RULES- I WANT TO SEE THEM ENFORCED AND ENFORCED EQUALLY, NOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHO GETS PUNISHED.
Like THAT would EVER be the case for gural. I'm really glad people are FINALLY seeing the light about ole jeffie and his ways.
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no driver is barred at the meds . whos civil rights is Jeff breaking? Sears, Tetrick, gingras Zeron they all will waltz in whenever they choose then back to yonkers or wherever.
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no driver is barred at the meds . whos civil rights is Jeff breaking? Sears, Tetrick, gingras Zeron they all will waltz in whenever they choose then back to yonkers or wherever.
If Gural allows B Miller, Tetrick or Zeron to race in his stakes, its another case of him saying 1 thing and doing another.
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It looks like I have my answer. Both Timmy T & Scotty Z raced last night & again tonight at The BigM going for half the money. Gural must have put his foot down.
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i heard scotty will no longer be welcome at the meadowlands,but tim teatrick will on occasions
I guess someone was wrong on that one.
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Scotty is only racing in stakes at the swamp,,, nothing else
Nope!
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It looks like I have my answer. Both Timmy T & Scotty Z raced last night & again tonight at The BigM going for half the money. Gural must have put his foot down.
How's that gural ass taste? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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How's that gural ass taste? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
If you read my posts you will realize how wrong your comment is.
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Told you anyone can come and go, Jeff never said they couldnt .
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Stop with the facts and accuracy, 'Jersey. You will kill this forum.
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Told you anyone can come and go, Jeff never said they couldnt .
Gotta disagree with you on this. Gural did say to his local drivers (whoever they are) that if you want to drive in the big races in the summer at the BigM you would be expected to drive at the BigM & not Yonkers on Friday & Saturday nights unless there were stakes at Yonkers that the BigM locals were involved in.
As for Timmy T & Scotty Z racing at the BigM this week after breaking Gural's rule a week ago, I'm guessing they tried to call Gural's bluff & Gural reraised. Why else would either driver go back to racing at the BigM this past Friday & Saturday going for less than half the money they could have raced for at Yonkers. There were no major stakes at the BigM to keep either driver there so I'm guessing Gural made a call to both & reminded both of his rule & gave them both a one time pass.
If either race on a non stake Friday or Saturday at Yonkers in the future I will concede I was wrong but until then I'm going to stick to my theory. jmho
PS: Gural did ban both Brennan & Sears at one point in the past as I'm guessing you know. Sears was even pulled off the bike at the BigM for a qualifier one morning because of the ban. Bother Sears & Brennan had to kiss & make up with the Dictator before they got their driving privileges back.
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So, Gural expressed what he is expecting from the drivers. Is it a rule he is enforcing or not?
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So, Gural expressed what he is expecting from the drivers. Is it a rule he is enforcing or not?
I would say yes.
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So, Gural expressed what he is expecting from the drivers. Is it a rule he is enforcing or not?
How can he enforce anything he is letting Robert Bongorino race there
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How can he enforce anything he is letting Robert Bongorino race there
As you know he picks & chooses.
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Looks like all the boys ( drivers ) are back for the Sat. card at the Big M !!!!!! ngc3 ngc3
Yes and the BigM regulars were back at the BigM last Friday & Saturday even though no stakes were carded. And more interesting is that both Timmy T & Scotty Z who had been racing at Yonkers on Friday are back at the BigM this Friday with only 9 races carded & around 1/3 the purse money that Yonkers is offering the same night. This seems to confirm my theory that Gural put his foot down.
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Gural only stated he wished they would stay loyal not that he would ban anyone from driving .
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Gural only stated he wished they would stay loyal not that he would ban anyone from driving .
That is simply not true. He laid down the ground rules prior to this meet and several drivers have not followed them this spring. He was very clear; dont follow rules and drivers are banned from stakes
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That is simply not true. He laid down the ground rules prior to this meet and several drivers have not followed them this spring. He was very clear; dont follow rules and drivers are banned from stakes
That's what I heard also. I actually heard those that Gural considers as BigM regulars that raced at Yonkers on Friday or Saturday nights when no stake races were carded would be barred from the BigM period.
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im rhunk gural lied
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im rhunk gural lied
Does that surprise you
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im rhunk gural lied
I don't think in this case Gural lied. I think he is dead serious & the proof is the fact that both Timmy T & Scotty Z are back at the BigM on Friday & Saturday night racing for 1/3 the money they could be going for at Yonkers.
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If Gooooooffffrrrraa allllllll INC wants drivers to be loyal, then shouldn't the same be held true for owners. You race in Gooooffffrrrrraaa alllllllll INC stake races, the owner MUST race overnight horses at the Pig M 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp.
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I don't think in this case Gural lied. I think he is dead serious & the proof is the fact that both Timmy T & Scotty Z are back at the BigM on Friday & Saturday night racing for 1/3 the money they could be going for at Yonkers.
They are there Friday night for the 3yos coming back. It's not about the money friday, it's about the money down the road.
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I don't think in this case Gural lied. I think he is dead serious & the proof is the fact that both Timmy T & Scotty Z are back at the BigM on Friday & Saturday night racing for 1/3 the money they could be going for at Yonkers.
Timmy has never driven at Yonkers full time only when stake races were there. The reason they are at Meadowlands now is because the 3 years old are starting to come out
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Gural and his team even moved qualifiers up so these guys can take a plane to the meadows , thats a true kiss ass.
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Timmy has never driven at Yonkers full time only when stake races were there. The reason they are at Meadowlands now is because the 3 years old are starting to come out
Yes I agree that Timmy has never driven at Yonkers full time & I have never said he has but you are wrong to say he only drives at Yonkers when there are stake races. Look at the results from Yonkers for April 20th. On that night both Timmy & Scotty drove at Yonkers with no stakes races on the card. That is the night that pissed off the Dictator & both drivers were reminded of the Dictators rule. The Dictator forgave both with a stern warning that it will not happen again.
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Corey and brett driving qualifiers then off to the meadows to try and cash grab. Fuck make the q at 11am stay in town .
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gurals rules change with the wind. As long as those winds benefit HIM.
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gurals rules change with the wind. As long as those winds benefit HIM.
Good point.
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gurals rules change with the wind. As long as those winds benefit HIM.
The "WIND" (aka stench) as you call it, comes directly from his smelly (https://republika.mk/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/FartGuyFarting.png) 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Doesnt everyone notice that Gural races at yonkers when the Pig M has no drivers. He doesnt want P drivers driving his horse!!