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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Inside The Pylons on May 21, 2018, 08:23:53 AM
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One that is made of a collapsible PVC pipe or similar material, if those Nascar hillbillies can make a safer barrier, why cant Harness racing? All you need is Pvc pipe and some T's and some track personal smart enuff to put it together. I know that part may be tough, but lets stop this judges discretion bullshit
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So you want a horse to trip over the hubrain and throw a driver instead of a safety lane?
Makes sense
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Pylons , 11.dt
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REPLACE THE PYLONS WITH LAND MINES, HIT ONE OF THOSE AND THE JUDGES WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PLACINGS.
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Forget the old skool hubrail. How about an old skool set of testicals used to apply old skool rules.
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The JUDGES discretion provides them a means to suck off / bleed dry the welfare system 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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You lost me, Hush. But, at least you did not say it was Gural's fault.
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Put a GPS on the bike verve off course... instant electronic DQ, don’t need anything for the
Horse or sulky to hit...
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Good suggestion. Maybe tie it in with a shock collar. The collar would be on the driver.
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just make it a rule. inside or hitting two pylons during race DQ to last. No judges call. They also want that rule.
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REPLACE THE PYLONS WITH LAND MINES, HIT ONE OF THOSE AND THE JUDGES WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PLACINGS.
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Maybe 2 sets of pylons. 1st set is oops with no cause for inquiry or placings and the inner set is automatically DQed to last.
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Maybe 2 sets of pylons. 1st set is oops with no cause for inquiry or placings and the inner set is automatically DQed to last.
I like that idea.
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They are working on a system at the USTA involving lasers!!
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They are working on a system at the USTA involving lasers!!
That's a real solution!!!!
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Knock one out of whack and blind a horse or driver and cause a bad accident! Real brains at work here at our lovely USTA.
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some drivers are allowed to cut across the infield and some are not allowed
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They are allowed to cheat at other things, so why not allow them to cheat at distance too? tmbz1
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some drivers are allowed to cut across the infield and some are not allowed
SOME WAIT AT THE HALF THEN GO
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That coop ain’t gonna clean itself
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That coop ain’t gonna clean itself
YOU KNOW THE ROUTINE...IM EATING RIGHT NOW
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More than once in the old days I bounced off the hub rail. Do you really think going slightly inside one or two pylons makes a difference. A few of the ideas here should be investigated
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More than once in the old days I bounced off the hub rail. Do you really think going slightly inside one or two pylons makes a difference. A few of the ideas here should be investigated
give these scum an inch they take a mile
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If you want a hub rail bet Century Downs.
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They are working on a system at the USTA involving lasers!!
This can't be true because it would be incredibly idiotic.
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More than once in the old days I bounced off the hub rail. Do you really think going slightly inside one or two pylons makes a difference. A few of the ideas here should be investigated
Going less than a mile doesn't make a difference? In a game of milliseconds, less distance doesn't make a difference? Really?
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I know pylons are a necessary evil for one big and important reason and that is safety. Not having the hubrail has prevented countless accidents. However, having pylons instead of a hubrail has caused two major issues. Firstly, judging. There is way too much interpretation regarding the rules. Is going below one pylon OK? Is going below 2 OK if you don't advance? BLAH BLAH BLAH. Then of course you have the judges who watch horses go below 2 or 3 and don't even put up an inquiry. This was never an issue when the hubrail existed. I think it has put too much power in the hands of too many incompetent or cheating judges. Secondly, I think when the hubrail was removed and pylons were installed, it caused less movement in a race. I think subconsciously drivers used to pull earlier to get off the rail to have an escape option if the race turned ugly. There is not a worse feeling than being stuck to a real hubrail with a few horses tangled up in front of you and nowhere to go but over it. Brain surgeons like Cammie Haughton thought the passing lane restricted earlier movement so he had it removed but I have noticed absolutely no change. In fact, racing is even worse at Yonkers since that change, if you can believe that.
Good points Mike but hubrails are gone so we need to deal with it
1) you are correct-leaving decisions up to Judges is total BS
Make a universal rule that takes it out of the hands of judges
Eg you go inside 2 pylons you get placed behind the horse that lapped on to you 3 pylons and you run last. Simple effective not open to interpretation
2) not much you can do about the second point but having the starting gate leave earlier like 50 yards before the start makes races more competitive as would having a couple trailers in a few races. Mix it up. That will get movement going.
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MOVEMENT IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING
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MOVEMENT IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING
FOR YOU, YES
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The rail just looks neater - pylons just look sloppy - see how much nicer this looks.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/M4iovrxgG0c/hqdefault.jpg)
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bring back the rail or set standards for all tracks.
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bring back the rail or set standards for all tracks.
Make pylons with a sensor in it. When wheel goes on wrong side a red light on top of pylon goes on and stays on for 5 mins.
If you run inside 2 you get placed behind the lapped on horses 3 pylons you get placed last
Simple and no judgement calls needed
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How often does this rule get violated to have this many topics on pylons and hubrails?
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I don’t like any change that could hurt a horse or driver physically but I do agree we need to take it out of the judges hands. I think that if they just use the thought that the pylons are there instead of a hub rail that alone should take care of it . If you go inside 1 you get placed because if you would of hit a hubrail you would of made a break or had to grab anyway . Imo
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You lost me, Hush. But, at least you did not say it was Gural's fault.
EXCELLENT POINT!! 62za.clp 62za.clp
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Two years ago a fellow came up with a saddle cloth that had illuminated sensors and the trigger sensor was in the pylon and if the wheel went inside the pylon a disk on the saddle cloth would be activated. Each saddle cloth had 4 disks and they could accurately determine which pylon was triggered by computer. The demo went off without a hitch but nobody went for it.
Must have " cost too much" to protect the integrity of racing........... ....... Just let everyone run rampant,with no set rules of guidelines is whats best ngc3
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How often does this rule get violated to have this many topics on pylons and hubrails?
More often than you think, if someone watches enough races at enough tracks. Drivers always looking for the slightest edge, and poor drivers , well they just can't steer!!
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SOME WAIT AT THE HALF THEN GO
Been there, done that: http://articles.latimes.com/1990-01-19/sports/sp-477_1_sylvester-carmouche
And as for lasers, I remember some guys were hiding out at Yonkers or Roosevelt way back when with lasers and were shooting horses going into the last turn. One kid cashed a nice ticket after KO'ing a couple of the chalks.
Now for our daily prayer: Fuck Jewffrey Gural. Amen. Until next time, sweeties......... ......HEIL HITLER!!