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Title: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: Admin on July 03, 2018, 06:46:34 AM: Need help from you horsemen in the states that have gotten sports betting up and running at their tracks. I made phone calls to Betfair and William Hill and they were of no assistance (seems I got the runaround). Also, is sports betting handle per week / month etc. being published in the local program?

Let the readers know if you can.
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Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: PIGLAND on July 03, 2018, 07:36:19 AM: the casinos didnt help horse racing
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 03, 2018, 08:54:31 AM: That’s for sure
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: The Exporter on July 03, 2018, 09:02:29 AM: In NJ, nothing in law to share with horsemen. DE. ?
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 03, 2018, 09:06:48 AM: Jeff wants it all
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: The Exporter on July 03, 2018, 09:30:36 AM: Jeffy is focused on the NJ Legislature to provide racing with restoration of direct cash payments from NJ casinos and government. Also, his partner, Hard Rock is still lobbying hard for a Meadowlands casino, in spite of 80% vote against in the 2016 referendum.
As for horsemen getting a taste of the sports wagering... two chances, none and none at all.
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: horses first on July 03, 2018, 09:58:21 AM: There's no pot of gold at the end of this rainbow. I don't believe it's a monstrous windfall. That being for the horse industry. Biggest winners the Rooneys cashing out at Yonkers.
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on July 03, 2018, 10:09:46 AM: Why would Betfair or William Hill give 2 shits about horse racing getting a piece?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: quitpullinmychain on July 03, 2018, 10:35:28 AM: Only thing that may happen is when people go to the track to bet sports betting they hang around & bet the horses.
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: The Exporter on July 03, 2018, 10:48:55 AM: Quote from: quitpullinmychain on July 03, 2018, 10:35:28 AM
Only thing that may happen is when people go to the track to bet sports betting they hang around & bet the horses.
The same logic used by lobbyist to persuade legislators about slots. Reality, it went backwards.
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: quitpullinmychain on July 03, 2018, 10:57:21 AM: Horsemen were behind the slots in Del. & got a piece of the action.Where were the horsemen on the sports betting they should of had a place at the table.They all were standing around with their fingers up their arse.
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: The Exporter on July 03, 2018, 11:16:25 AM: The pie for sports betting is much smaller. Getting a sliver of cut is not something the state, the host or the operator is willing to part with.
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: Bernie Madoff on July 03, 2018, 11:57:51 AM: Sports betting is certainly not a panacea for any state. The returns are approximately 4-5%. If Vegas is making $200 million per year with all their casinos, how much is a fuckhole like the tiny M going to make ? Inconsequential. I realize these figures are from 2009. https://www.thesportsgeek.com/sports-betting/las-vegas/
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: The Exporter on July 03, 2018, 12:01:48 PM: Not enough to share with others without state mandates. That is why Jeffery give open end answers to the question. Same thing from NJSOA. Everything but the hard numpers.
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: quitpullinmychain on July 03, 2018, 12:36:04 PM: Quote from: Kirby's Ace on July 03, 2018, 12:11:03 PM
Yes they did as well as I, But all that happen was it pushed the 90% of the local horseman out. And that was the ones it was to help protect. But what did we do, We spent the welfare purse money on new trucks and trailers, Instead of upgrading our stock...Now those original few Delaware horseman that where campaigning for slots are warming up horse's, Paddock judges, starters and so on. Only a small few are still there.

To quote Ron White "You can't fix stupid".
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: kantseeback on July 03, 2018, 01:13:37 PM: Quote from: MR.DALRAE on July 03, 2018, 09:06:48 AM
Jeff wants it all

Those tablecloth shirts are mighty expensive.
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: MR.DALRAE on July 03, 2018, 01:34:48 PM: PAYS ALOT OF MONEY FOR SHIRTS AND SANDELS
Title: Re: Any law / rulings in DE or NJ on sports betting helping purses or horsemen?
Post by: The Exporter on July 05, 2018, 12:35:24 PM: https://www.casino.org/news/racetracks-handle-over-7-million-in-wagers-in-first-20-days-of-delaware-sports-betting