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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Second Alert on August 05, 2018, 05:39:35 PM
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This was advertised for the Breeders Crown in the Hamiltonian program, 15% takeout on all bets on both elimination nights and Breeders Crown night itself. Scroll down to bottom of picture and I circled it in red.
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Should equate to nice handle then very favorable for. Bettors in comparison to usual takeout
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If this is true
Very good move
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Not often does this industry get it right but here they have done well...........so mebody had their head in the right place tmbz1 Very good news 11.wp
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Great move but the handle will still be horrible
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Not often does this industry get it right but here they have done well...........so mebody had their head in the right place tmbz1 Very good news 11.wp
Now Pocono is playable!
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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Shocking. Did they fire that fat fuck who runs the place?
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They should make it mandatory going forward if you want To hold the event
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Shocking. Did they fire that fat fuck who runs the place?
Well its only for three cards so I assume somebody who represents the Hambletonion society told Pocono that they felt bad that people playing the year end championships would be subject to the ass raping that the regulars get all year round.......its hard to sleep at night knowing players are being treated like that....the games rigged so that over the long haul nobody could ever come out on the side of positive.
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Well its only for three cards so I assume somebody who represents the Hambletonion society told Pocono that they felt bad that people playing the year end championships would be subject to the ass raping that the regulars get all year round.......its hard to sleep at night knowing players are being treated like that....the games rigged so that over the long haul nobody could ever come out on the side of positive.
good point, the fat fuck only cares about his paycheck.
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The red miles take out is worse I believe
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The Hambletonian Society -- not Pocono Downs -- owns the breeders Crown and sets the takeout. Just like the Breeders Cup in thoroughbreds.
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Good. Those races may be playable now.
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Nice gesture. Hope it is more than that but...
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I'll support this. Maybe if they see a significant rise in handle they'll take that into consideration for the future?
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Big deal, only winners pay the takeout, and none of you guys are winners, that's for sure.
I wanna know, what's on the buffet menu?
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well they should be up to at least 500k for the pick 5 by then .
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This what Trump should take the tax down 2! Fluck those Public Unions!
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If this is the case this is a bad deal for the Breeders Crown to reimburse Pocono for the difference. It could be upwards to $500,000 for the reimbursement.
If Pocono was smart they would continue the 15% takeout across the board until the end of the year which would be three weeks, then assess the takeout % for the up and coming season.
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If this is the case this is a bad deal for the Breeders Crown to reimburse Pocono for the difference. It could be upwards to $500,000 for the reimbursement.
If Pocono was smart they would continue the 15% takeout across the board until the end of the year which would be three weeks, then assess the takeout % for the up and coming season.
I really dont think the Hambo Society is going to pay back whats lost on the 3 nights.........th ey just want it to be fair if their names attached I would hope. I would suspect that the Hambo Society is not flush as far as money is concerned . Where did you read or hear they would cover the difference??
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They should never have a major racing event like this at a track with take out as high as the Pennsylvania tracks.
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They should never have a major racing event like this at a track with take out as high as the Pennsylvania tracks.
Agreed what idiots picked this track
People wonder why it's dying fucking peabrains in charge
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Agreed what idiots picked this track
People wonder why it's dying fucking peabrains in charge
It is preferred because the surface produces fast fractions, fast final times, fast final quarters
thats what the industry, the owners, the breeders, and the fans ALL want--meaningless speed marks
Pocono provides that false euphoria , that bragging right in some bar, to say my horse went 150--even though that mark is now accomplished by $5k claimers
Everyone stares at the fractions, the final times, the soft middle halves, etc, etc....so thats what the industry provides...that is, fast times that mean nothing
The above description also is the Lexington meet...fast times for breeders and owners
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It is preferred because the surface produces fast fractions, fast final times, fast final quarters
thats what the industry, the owners, the breeders, and the fans ALL want--meaningless speed marks
Pocono provides that false euphoria , that bragging right in some bar, to say my horse went 150--even though that mark is now accomplished by $5k claimers
Everyone stares at the fractions, the final times, the soft middle halves, etc, etc....so thats what the industry provides...that is, fast times that mean nothing
The above description also is the Lexington meet...fast times for breeders and owners
Good points another bad metric still be using by hillbillies
How often do tbreds refernce race times? NEVER
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Good points another bad metric still be using by hillbillies
How often do tbreds refernce race times? NEVER
I watch plenty of English racing on TVG--times are NEVER mentioned by the track announcer, or the commentators
This "time" brain blockage is from the 70s---wooden bikes--back then time was a major factor, as was post position
Modern day pharmaceuticals, super high octane gas trainers, the modern bikes, the intentionally designed surfaces for fast times....all of that has rendered final times basically unimportant--yet still the industry--more importantly--the aging fan base, breeding outfits, sales folks...they are all stuck in the 70s..because they saw the slow times back then and now they see these times of today and they simply fall in love with the clock all over again
Its quite bizarre
Is it that important for owners to tell their friends or their social media that you have a 150 pacer/trotter?--even though that mark is also outdated?
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the 15% should be in bigger print than the words breaders crown
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this has nothing to do with Pocono They were ask to go down to 15% they said no so the breeders made an deal to drop the takeout to 15% and pay Pocono the difference
No idea where I said anything about Pocono
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SHOULD TAKE OUT 98% LIKE NANTZ
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I watch plenty of English racing on TVG--times are NEVER mentioned by the track announcer, or the commentators
This "time" brain blockage is from the 70s---wooden bikes--back then time was a major factor, as was post position
Modern day pharmaceuticals, super high octane gas trainers, the modern bikes, the intentionally designed surfaces for fast times....all of that has rendered final times basically unimportant--yet still the industry--more importantly--the aging fan base, breeding outfits, sales folks...they are all stuck in the 70s..because they saw the slow times back then and now they see these times of today and they simply fall in love with the clock all over again
Its quite bizarre
Is it that important for owners to tell their friends or their social media that you have a 150 pacer/trotter?--even though that mark is also outdated?
As an owner If u brag about a horses mile time u def have a small pee pee
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the 15% should be in bigger print than the words breaders crown
Hey fuckwad, take out only matters to bettors that actually cash tickets. Your so fucking bad at handicapping that the take out on your bets could be fucking zero, and the tracks would still take your fucking donations.
As that fucking God from Chicago used to say "learn the game Laddie" and oh yea, GSAC.
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Hey fuckwad, take out only matters to bettors that actually cash tickets. Your so fucking bad at handicapping that the take out on your bets could be fucking zero, and the tracks would still take your fucking donations.
As that fucking God from Chicago used to say "learn the game Laddie" and oh yea, GSAC.
YOU BENT NOSED BASTARD
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Hey fuckwad, take out only matters to bettors that actually cash tickets. Your so fucking bad at handicapping that the take out on your bets could be fucking zero, and the tracks would still take your fucking donations.
As that fucking God from Chicago used to say "learn the game Laddie" and oh yea, GSAC.
joe you sucker
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Well its only for three cards so I assume somebody who represents the Hambletonion society told Pocono that they felt bad that people playing the year end championships would be subject to the ass raping that the regulars get all year round.......its hard to sleep at night knowing players are being treated like that....the games rigged so that over the long haul nobody could ever come out on the side of positive.
The Director of Harness Racing for Pennsylvania played a large part in reducing the takeout for the Breeders Crown. tmbz1 tmbz1
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Breeders Crown cards to feature 15 percent takeout rate for 2018
Thursday, August 09, 2018 - by Moira Fanning, for the Hambletonian Society
Wilkes-Barre, PA --- The Downs at Mohegan Sun Pocono will offer a 15 percent across-the-board takeout rate on all available wagers -- not only on the entire Breeders Crown finals card, but also on two nights of elimination cards.
“It’s a significant benefit to offer bettors one of the absolute lowest multi-race takeout rates in all of North America,” said John Campbell, president and CEO of the Hambletonian Society, which owns and administers the Breeders Crown championship series of races. “Adding this incentive to one of racing’s most highly anticipated events will make it all the more exciting.”
The Downs at Mohegan Sun Pocono and Pennsylvania Harness Horsemen’s Association have also partnered with TVG to broadcast key Breeders Crown races, and with Daily Racing Form for live streaming on their website with analysis, past performance pages and commentary, giving fans access free of charge.
Set for Saturday (Oct. 27), this will be the third time The Downs at Mohegan Sun Pocono has hosted the $6 million event, harness racing’s richest and most prestigious year-end divisional series. Breeders Crown eliminations for 2-year-olds will be raced Friday (Oct. 19) and 3-year-old and open horses will have eliminations, if necessary, on Saturday (Oct. 20).