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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: slimshady on September 27, 2018, 02:29:59 PM

Title: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: slimshady on September 27, 2018, 02:29:59 PM
What do you think of the new rules just announced by Woodbine Entertainment  .....

Effective January 1, 2019, any owner that participates in a Woodbine Standardbred stakes race (added money greater than $50,000) with a trainer who has an outstanding Class 1, Class 2 or TC02 positive test under appeal in any jurisdiction, shall be ineligible to participate in any Woodbine Standardbred Stakes for 12 months following the conviction if such trainer is subsequently found guilty relating to the Class 1, Class 2 or TC02 positive test.

I like it.  As an owner, if you use a dirty trainer, even one under appeal, and he/she gets found guilty, it now affects you and him/her !!   Even if you change trainers, you won't be able to run in the big races for 12 months.   Owners will need to be more diligent in selecting trainers. 
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on September 27, 2018, 02:39:08 PM
Its more pomp and circumstance. The most important word is CONVICTION. Which means again, we get to play the appeal game and drag it out  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on September 27, 2018, 02:47:46 PM
More importantly would be suspend the horse for 1 year  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: slimshady on September 27, 2018, 03:17:43 PM
Hush    .....       I would hope they have covered off the Owner simply selling his horse to a friend for $1.50 to run under their name.   HOPE, but wouldn't bet on it !!
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: slimshady on September 27, 2018, 03:20:05 PM
Hush   .....     regarding appeals   .....    W Entertainment have to be committed to following the process through to the end, which of course requires them to be willing to put up money for lawyers to match the richer owners.
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: swoodall on September 27, 2018, 03:52:13 PM
What do you think of the new rules just announced by Woodbine Entertainment  .....

Effective January 1, 2019, any owner that participates in a Woodbine Standardbred stakes race (added money greater than $50,000) with a trainer who has an outstanding Class 1, Class 2 or TC02 positive test under appeal in any jurisdiction, shall be ineligible to participate in any Woodbine Standardbred Stakes for 12 months following the conviction if such trainer is subsequently found guilty relating to the Class 1, Class 2 or TC02 positive test.

I like it.  As an owner, if you use a dirty trainer, even one under appeal, and he/she gets found guilty, it now affects you and him/her !!   Even if you change trainers, you won't be able to run in the big races for 12 months.   Owners will need to be more diligent in selecting trainers.



No need to fear this new rule if you are Canadian.

When a 3 year probation penalty is all you get in Canada for a Cobalt positive 5 times over the established limit nobody will ever be found guilty. Problem solved.
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: Jazzman on September 27, 2018, 04:25:23 PM
big talk no action just keep appealing and keep on racing if they would have left it as not eligiable while under appeal it would have meant something
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: Parked on September 27, 2018, 06:17:31 PM
Its more pomp and circumstance. The most important word is CONVICTION. Which means again, we get to play the appeal game and drag it out  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
It says UNDER APPEAL......
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: hoosierboy on September 27, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
They will just use beards
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: 791Gordy on September 28, 2018, 03:36:44 PM
Cool rule.   Nobody ever gets convicted tho.   
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: Parked on September 29, 2018, 07:34:21 AM
Maybe I read it wrong but think it says “under appeal” . If that is the case and a positive is swept under the rug without a decision the trainer is out until some decision is made.    The commissions would then be forced to move. Will be interesting to see how much quicker decisions are made compared to the long drawn out appeals we now see.  The demand for beards will be increased and we will see a lot more wives down as trainers.
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: Inside The Pylons on September 29, 2018, 08:23:31 AM
 I sure hope that Canada's equivalent of Howard Taylor can shoot some holes in Clay Horner's Nazi like attempt to become an imperialist dictator of harness racing in that country up North like sneaky Jeff Gural does down here in the states
Title: Re: New Stakes rules in Canada
Post by: Hush Limbaugh II on September 29, 2018, 08:27:10 AM
Effective January 1, 2019, any owner that participates in a Woodbine Standardbred stakes race (added money greater than $50,000) with a trainer who has an outstanding Class 1, Class 2 or TC02 positive test under appeal in any jurisdiction, shall be ineligible to participate in any Woodbine Standardbred Stakes for 12 months

If the statement ENDS here, no problem  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

following the conviction if such trainer is subsequently found guilty relating to the Class 1, Class 2 or TC02 positive test.

But when the disclaimer is put in, BULLSHIT  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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