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Title: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 09, 2019, 10:29:20 PM
French rat Sylvain Filion who absolutely takes nights off from trying has earned himself a well deserved suspension.

The problem here is he might not get one.  91zxa.1

Filion the unreliable cheating fuck buried the 1/5 in the 8th by moving to the inside behind tiring leaders.

Filion was clear in mid stretch with Tyga Hanover when he inexplicably darted left to lock himself in!

The 2,7,9 were slowing down mid stretch as Filion started gaining ground....apparen tly too much ground.

This move had one purpose and that was to NOT win! 94z.sm

Coming off a layoff with one qualifier and bet down to 1/5 in a nw1 condition race, Filion had plenty of horse left. 11.wp

Trouble was as I said he was determined not to win. 77z.chf 91.jzail

I boxed 259 and played 5/279 for super. It came 9-2-5-7.

I had the tri which paid good so save your loser lament bullshit.

Woodbine has recently suspended a couple of high profile drivers for a lot less obvious infractions. angbk

So now they have to prove they are not playing favorites by suspending Filion for the same number of days. tmbz1
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on May 09, 2019, 11:38:41 PM
Sorry but the drive isn't worthy of suspension at all. People betting down a horse making first start at 3 to 1/5 are insane. I actually think the horse raced huge for the trip. Was first over for half a mile then ducked in the stretch (when tired).  Shouldn't even give you this info but any competent capper will know without looking...the horse traveled 24 extra feet in the race--9 more than the nearest horse.

(https://i.imgur.com/uYu3iiQ.png)

Here's the replay for inquiring minds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNDQ890MWc4


Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Fatboy on May 09, 2019, 11:57:58 PM
HAD ZERO CLUE WHY COLT DUCKED SO IT MUSTA BEEN A CHEAT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
ANOTHER GRASSY KNOLL FROM UNCLE SWOODY tmbz1
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 10, 2019, 02:15:36 AM
Trip nor distance traveled exonerate moving inside to bury your horse then having to grab hold before the wire to keep from running the dead leaders over.

There were 3 horses lose on the lead turning for home with Filion moving up on the outside.

All Filion had to do was draft Ballargeon mid stretch then move outside him with a clear path to the wire.

Nothing excuses moving inside behind the other 2 horsesin front of you locking yourself in with a 1/5.

And contrary to the opinion expressed by less knowledgeable handicappers, Tyga Hanover is a $110,000 yearling purchase who is North American Cup eligible racing against a shit field of NW-1 competition who themselves were a combined 0 for 100 lifetime!

Tyga Hanover was the overwhelming single in the late pk4 by all the Canadian handicappers after losing his qualifier to Stag Party by 1/2 length with a last 1/4 of 26.4

Filion's move looks a lot different when you know all the facts about who he was driving. :1
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 10, 2019, 02:56:54 AM
MCNAIR,DOUGLAS R                   
ON    - MISCONDUCT PREJUDICIAL TO THE BEST INTERESTS OF RACING
Commission Rule Number : 6.20(B) 6.01(C)                                                               
Date Issued : 22-APR-2019
Total Due :   1000.00
Violation Occurred : Race 1 at WOODBINE MOHAWK PARK on 13-APR-2019 horse HAL N SAMMY
Suspended From 24-APR-2019 To 28-APR-2019 (Driving Suspension)
 (Suspensions  Reinstated On 29-APR-2019)



Woodbine doesn't seem to play favorites and Filion's drive deserves a stewards hearing to defend his drive.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: hoosierboy on May 10, 2019, 06:10:20 AM
Trip nor distance traveled exonerate moving inside to bury your horse then having to grab hold before the wire to keep from running the dead leaders over.

There were 3 horses lose on the lead turning for home with Filion moving up on the outside.

All Filion had to do was draft Ballargeon mid stretch then move outside him with a clear path to the wire.

Nothing excuses moving inside behind the other 2 horsesin front of you locking yourself in with a 1/5.

And contrary to the opinion expressed by less knowledgeable handicappers, Tyga Hanover is a $110,000 yearling purchase who is North American Cup eligible racing against a shit field of NW-1 competition who themselves were a combined 0 for 100 lifetime!

Tyga Hanover was the overwhelming single in the late pk4 by all the Canadian handicappers after losing his qualifier to Stag Party by 1/2 length with a last 1/4 of 26.4

Filion's move looks a lot different when you know all the facts about who he was driving. :1

Doesn’t matter how much the horse cost a rat is a rat.  If he was worth a fuck and NA Cup legible he wouldn’t of been In NW of 1
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: mwins on May 10, 2019, 06:37:21 AM
Plugs were out in the last turn. Horse was empty. I have seen Fillion stiff, but this was not a stiff drive.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: jdogg1977 on May 10, 2019, 06:57:54 AM
If you really hit the tri like your redboard says, you should be thanking him for the supposed stuff. Paid way better with the horse finishing 3rd than if he had won
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: whiptherabbit on May 10, 2019, 07:49:43 AM
The track was off, third quarter was 27:3 and Fillion was after him going to three quarter pole and coming for home. Even at the wire he was empty along with the others so i dont see anything here
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: DeeJennerit on May 10, 2019, 09:57:52 AM
My first post, here's my two cents worth:

I don't think Filion stiffed this horse.  I think he a very, VERY overrated driver that is actually quite sedated most nights and I have seen comatose moves like this one from him many times over the 30 years I've followed racing.  First-time no Filion to a McNair, Roy, Henry and forget about it, the horse will be better.

That brings about the underlying issue in the original poster's rant: WHY ARE THE BETTORS SHARPER THAN THE DRIVERS ARE MORE THAN THEY ARE NOT?  It's true!  It's a big reason why I bet much less than I used to.  I work like a dog to have expendable income to pursue my hobby that I've been passionate about since my Grandfather started taking me to the races as a kid only to have Louis Roy fence a Beachin Lindy at 1/5 or, as in this case, Filion's in a coma on a 1/5 shot who is clearly on the left line and inclined to run out on his own but decides to STEER him to the inside.  Does he win if he gives him his face and let's him run out, avoiding the slight inside traffic at the wire?  Maybe not, but sure would be nice to have a chance to see.  And don't get me wrong: no real wise guy wants the horse to win anyway and most of the big plays I make these days are to beat horses/drivers like this combination, but having said that, I know I'm in the minority (because the horse was favored) and I understand the bigger picture of this issue, the frustration of the betting public in a nutshell: we as handicappers, lovers of the game, gamblers are sharper than the majority of the guys at the controls and they make a very good living regardless while we tap out supporting a sport we love in which the odds are so stacked against us (takeout, incremental wagers, drugged up horses and AWFUL, AWFUL, drives) that we really should shake our heads and wonder why we even bother, especially when the governing bodies are of the same characteristics as the drivers: dispassionate, complacent, entitled, comatose and just plain stupid.

Thanks for reading.  Looking forward to some more back and forth on this.  Have a good Friday.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on May 10, 2019, 12:56:01 PM
Trip nor distance traveled exonerate moving inside to bury your horse then having to grab hold before the wire to keep from running the dead leaders over.

There were 3 horses lose on the lead turning for home with Filion moving up on the outside.

All Filion had to do was draft Ballargeon mid stretch then move outside him with a clear path to the wire.

Nothing excuses moving inside behind the other 2 horsesin front of you locking yourself in with a 1/5.

And contrary to the opinion expressed by less knowledgeable handicappers, Tyga Hanover is a $110,000 yearling purchase who is North American Cup eligible racing against a shit field of NW-1 competition who themselves were a combined 0 for 100 lifetime!

Tyga Hanover was the overwhelming single in the late pk4 by all the Canadian handicappers after losing his qualifier to Stag Party by 1/2 length with a last 1/4 of 26.4

Filion's move looks a lot different when you know all the facts about who he was driving. :1

Look, I'm critical of drives often but this aint it chief. If it's so easy to just get your horse to follow another one why don't you hop in the bike? Ever been on one that has a mind of its own? The horse was fighting Filion for more than 1/8th maybe almost a 1/4. Even if you ignore trip, watch the reply again. Take a look at the horse's head action from the top of the stretch to finish.

Having followed this circuit the most out of any other harness one, this isn't a Fillion stiff. The classic Fillion stiff is to bury the horse on the rail, find trouble, then get out too late. If Fillion wanted to stiff this one, why did he pull first up at all? If he's NAC eligible and such high potential, why stiff to stay in class?
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on May 10, 2019, 01:05:42 PM
MCNAIR,DOUGLAS R                   
ON    - MISCONDUCT PREJUDICIAL TO THE BEST INTERESTS OF RACING
Commission Rule Number : 6.20(B) 6.01(C)                                                               
Date Issued : 22-APR-2019
Total Due :   1000.00
Violation Occurred : Race 1 at WOODBINE MOHAWK PARK on 13-APR-2019 horse HAL N SAMMY
Suspended From 24-APR-2019 To 28-APR-2019 (Driving Suspension)
 (Suspensions  Reinstated On 29-APR-2019)



Woodbine doesn't seem to play favorites and Filion's drive deserves a stewards hearing to defend his drive.

Do you think McNair was suspended for stiffing Hal N Sammy?  Horse finished a well beaten 6th. If anything, he was suspended for over use of the whip, not stiffing.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: seriously on May 10, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
My first post, here's my two cents worth:

I don't think Filion stiffed this horse.  I think he a very, VERY overrated driver that is actually quite sedated most nights and I have seen comatose moves like this one from him many times over the 30 years I've followed racing.  First-time no Filion to a McNair, Roy, Henry and forget about it, the horse will be better.

That brings about the underlying issue in the original poster's rant: WHY ARE THE BETTORS SHARPER THAN THE DRIVERS ARE MORE THAN THEY ARE NOT?  It's true!  It's a big reason why I bet much less than I used to.  I work like a dog to have expendable income to pursue my hobby that I've been passionate about since my Grandfather started taking me to the races as a kid only to have Louis Roy fence a Beachin Lindy at 1/5 or, as in this case, Filion's in a coma on a 1/5 shot who is clearly on the left line and inclined to run out on his own but decides to STEER him to the inside.  Does he win if he gives him his face and let's him run out, avoiding the slight inside traffic at the wire?  Maybe not, but sure would be nice to have a chance to see.  And don't get me wrong: no real wise guy wants the horse to win anyway and most of the big plays I make these days are to beat horses/drivers like this combination, but having said that, I know I'm in the minority (because the horse was favored) and I understand the bigger picture of this issue, the frustration of the betting public in a nutshell: we as handicappers, lovers of the game, gamblers are sharper than the majority of the guys at the controls and they make a very good living regardless while we tap out supporting a sport we love in which the odds are so stacked against us (takeout, incremental wagers, drugged up horses and AWFUL, AWFUL, drives) that we really should shake our heads and wonder why we even bother, especially when the governing bodies are of the same characteristics as the drivers: dispassionate, complacent, entitled, comatose and just plain stupid.

Thanks for reading.  Looking forward to some more back and forth on this.  Have a good Friday.


Honestly....YOU GET IT!

Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 10, 2019, 03:16:37 PM
My first post, here's my two cents worth:

I don't think Filion stiffed this horse.  I think he a very, VERY overrated driver that is actually quite sedated most nights and I have seen comatose moves like this one from him many times over the 30 years I've followed racing.  First-time no Filion to a McNair, Roy, Henry and forget about it, the horse will be better.

That brings about the underlying issue in the original poster's rant: WHY ARE THE BETTORS SHARPER THAN THE DRIVERS ARE MORE THAN THEY ARE NOT?  It's true!  It's a big reason why I bet much less than I used to.  I work like a dog to have expendable income to pursue my hobby that I've been passionate about since my Grandfather started taking me to the races as a kid only to have Louis Roy fence a Beachin Lindy at 1/5 or, as in this case, Filion's in a coma on a 1/5 shot who is clearly on the left line and inclined to run out on his own but decides to STEER him to the inside.  Does he win if he gives him his face and let's him run out, avoiding the slight inside traffic at the wire?  Maybe not, but sure would be nice to have a chance to see.  And don't get me wrong: no real wise guy wants the horse to win anyway and most of the big plays I make these days are to beat horses/drivers like this combination, but having said that, I know I'm in the minority (because the horse was favored) and I understand the bigger picture of this issue, the frustration of the betting public in a nutshell: we as handicappers, lovers of the game, gamblers are sharper than the majority of the guys at the controls and they make a very good living regardless while we tap out supporting a sport we love in which the odds are so stacked against us (takeout, incremental wagers, drugged up horses and AWFUL, AWFUL, drives) that we really should shake our heads and wonder why we even bother, especially when the governing bodies are of the same characteristics as the drivers: dispassionate, complacent, entitled, comatose and just plain stupid.

Thanks for reading.  Looking forward to some more back and forth on this.  Have a good Friday.



There is only one reason I cash tickets at Woodbine anymore.....I Box! I box and box and box.  tmbz1

No singles, no keys and no trusting these Canadian fucks to give an honest effort. 11.wp

What I cash has zero to do with what I post about or email racing boards about. tmbz1

I got Marcus Miller a 7 day vacation for pulling a similar no try drive shit with an Erv 1/9 monster.

I hit that race big because I anticipated the no try drive coming from Marcus.

When I emailed the Illinois Racing Board I included a snapshot of my bets to prove I wasn't just a sore loser.

I knew the way these guys operate and as sure as shit stinks they performed right on cue. tmbz1

Filion ducked inside into a 29.1 last quarter with a NACup eligible horse who finished blocked at the wire.

This was a text book no try drive and if I had paid those nomination fees I would be pissed. 91zxa.1 
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: LUCPARK on May 10, 2019, 03:19:04 PM
CAN  ANYONE JUST  LOSE A RACE WITH


"DIGNITY"
................. ...........
ANY MORE

JUST ASKIN tmbz1
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on May 10, 2019, 05:36:38 PM


There is only one reason I cash tickets at Woodbine anymore.....I Box! I box and box and box.  tmbz1

No singles, no keys and no trusting these Canadian fucks to give an honest effort. 11.wp

What I cash has zero to do with what I post about or email racing boards about. tmbz1

I got Marcus Miller a 7 day vacation for pulling a similar no try drive shit with an Erv 1/9 monster.

I hit that race big because I anticipated the no try drive coming from Marcus.

When I emailed the Illinois Racing Board I included a snapshot of my bets to prove I wasn't just a sore loser.

I knew the way these guys operate and as sure as shit stinks they performed right on cue. tmbz1

Filion ducked inside into a 29.1 last quarter with a NACup eligible horse who finished blocked at the wire.

This was a text book no try drive and if I had paid those nomination fees I would be pissed. 91zxa.1

The fuck does this even mean? There are tons of horses staked to everything that never win a race. The best is next time out the horse will get a cleaner trip and win by daylights. You'll see this and say "see I was right, it was a stiff!". Love betting against morons like you.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Fatboy on May 10, 2019, 09:28:12 PM
My first post, here's my two cents worth:

I don't think Filion stiffed this horse.  I think he a very, VERY overrated driver that is actually quite sedated most nights and I have seen comatose moves like this one from him many times over the 30 years I've followed racing.  First-time no Filion to a McNair, Roy, Henry and forget about it, the horse will be better.

That brings about the underlying issue in the original poster's rant: WHY ARE THE BETTORS SHARPER THAN THE DRIVERS ARE MORE THAN THEY ARE NOT?  It's true!  It's a big reason why I bet much less than I used to.  I work like a dog to have expendable income to pursue my hobby that I've been passionate about since my Grandfather started taking me to the races as a kid only to have Louis Roy fence a Beachin Lindy at 1/5 or, as in this case, Filion's in a coma on a 1/5 shot who is clearly on the left line and inclined to run out on his own but decides to STEER him to the inside.  Does he win if he gives him his face and let's him run out, avoiding the slight inside traffic at the wire?  Maybe not, but sure would be nice to have a chance to see.  And don't get me wrong: no real wise guy wants the horse to win anyway and most of the big plays I make these days are to beat horses/drivers like this combination, but having said that, I know I'm in the minority (because the horse was favored) and I understand the bigger picture of this issue, the frustration of the betting public in a nutshell: we as handicappers, lovers of the game, gamblers are sharper than the majority of the guys at the controls and they make a very good living regardless while we tap out supporting a sport we love in which the odds are so stacked against us (takeout, incremental wagers, drugged up horses and AWFUL, AWFUL, drives) that we really should shake our heads and wonder why we even bother, especially when the governing bodies are of the same characteristics as the drivers: dispassionate, complacent, entitled, comatose and just plain stupid.

Thanks for reading.  Looking forward to some more back and forth on this.  Have a good Friday.

  Insightful post.  Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 11, 2019, 02:16:47 AM
One thing that hasn't changed in the last 50 years of horse racing is the low IQ of the average participant. 11.hmzr

Anyone involved with advising stake payments to the North American Cup had been better be sure their horse can go under 1:50 otherwise they should be sued for malpractice. 11.dt

And any horse nominated to the NACup shouldn't need a "clean trip" to beat a NW-1 field who have 100 loses between them ! :1

And any plop member with an IQ above 7 knows this to be true. angbk

P.T. Barnum must have been responding to a horse racing forum when he said "There is a sucker born every second".

 95xz.2 tmbz1
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Germy dDay on May 11, 2019, 07:06:37 AM
Swoodall I just got off the phone with Dr. Phil and he prescribes you to take a gun and shoot yourself. Just STFU.

SWOOEY AFTER HE FOUND OUT HIS CHILD PORN CHANNEL WAS BEING TAKEN AWAY
(https://i.gifer.com/Vi7S.gif)
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Atthetrack7 on May 11, 2019, 07:13:33 AM
Swoodall I just got off the phone with Dr. Phil and he prescribes you to take a gun and shoot yourself. Just STFU.

Oh god you went and did it. Swoodall will demand to know who you are, and  threaten to shut the plop down
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: slivercharm on May 11, 2019, 10:46:48 AM
No wonder somebody called NIU and said one of their students dads was a lunatic racist

Who brags they got somebody suspended and is a tattle tail

Steve Woodall of Wilmington needs to end his crippled pathetic life
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Fatboy on May 11, 2019, 04:53:35 PM
No wonder somebody called NIU and said one of their students dads was a lunatic racist

Who brags they got somebody suspended and is a tattle tail

Steve Woodall of Wilmington needs to end his crippled pathetic life

THEY STOLE HIS I.D. AT THE OTB  PARLOR WAS HIS BEST STORY ngc3
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: spaheaven on May 11, 2019, 07:35:40 PM
If he doesnt save and split horses he misses the board all together, you guys are such fucking retards it's astonishing really.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: slivercharm on May 11, 2019, 09:14:28 PM
THEY STOLE HIS I.D. AT THE OTB  PARLOR WAS HIS BEST STORY ngc3

No the one where they flattened his tires was a klassic

Best was when Payton ode made him shit his depends
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: eyeinthesky on May 12, 2019, 06:31:51 AM
Who is Payton Ode, and why is he down as trainer for PRIMO GIOVANNI...the horse Allard just claimed from Burke on May 8th....that shows Allard as owner

Hoosier   May 15th  Race  5
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: DeeJennerit on May 16, 2019, 08:22:49 PM
French rat Sylvain Filion who absolutely takes nights off from trying has earned himself a well deserved suspension.

The problem here is he might not get one.  91zxa.1

Filion the unreliable cheating fuck buried the 1/5 in the 8th by moving to the inside behind tiring leaders.

Filion was clear in mid stretch with Tyga Hanover when he inexplicably darted left to lock himself in!

The 2,7,9 were slowing down mid stretch as Filion started gaining ground....apparen tly too much ground.

This move had one purpose and that was to NOT win! 94z.sm

Coming off a layoff with one qualifier and bet down to 1/5 in a nw1 condition race, Filion had plenty of horse left. 11.wp

Trouble was as I said he was determined not to win. 77z.chf 91.jzail

I boxed 259 and played 5/279 for super. It came 9-2-5-7.

I had the tri which paid good so save your loser lament bullshit.

Woodbine has recently suspended a couple of high profile drivers for a lot less obvious infractions. angbk

So now they have to prove they are not playing favorites by suspending Filion for the same number of days. tmbz1

Perhaps this requires revisiting after tonight's performance.

This is why people don't bet anymore.  Last week, buried up, in and out, burned money.  Tonight, down the road like Somebeachsomewher e himself.  No consistency, judges aren't even watching or caring.  You tell me how someone who's first two trips to the track were to bet and watch this horse last week and then again this week ever doesn't immediately think crooked thoughts.  Brutal.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on May 16, 2019, 09:09:01 PM
Perhaps this requires revisiting after tonight's performance.

This is why people don't bet anymore.  Last week, buried up, in and out, burned money.  Tonight, down the road like Somebeachsomewher e himself.  No consistency, judges aren't even watching or caring.  You tell me how someone who's first two trips to the track were to bet and watch this horse last week and then again this week ever doesn't immediately think crooked thoughts.  Brutal.


Gee, look at the 2nd post:

Quote
Sorry but the drive isn't worthy of suspension at all. People betting down a horse making first start at 3 to 1/5 are insane. I actually think the horse raced huge for the trip. Was first over for half a mile then ducked in the stretch (when tired).  Shouldn't even give you this info but any competent capper will know without looking...the horse traveled 24 extra feet in the race--9 more than the nearest horse.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Brown jug on May 16, 2019, 11:15:13 PM
wow, i see people are still sour they bet a  maiden horse to 3/5 in his first start of the year and he was third by a length pacing his last 3/4 in 124.3 over a good track
yet tonight he jogs as follows
       back with regular trainer(oops nobody has mentioned that)
       equipment change(oops nobody noticed that)
       fast track
       tighter after that first start





Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: PIGLAND on May 17, 2019, 01:49:29 AM
wow, i see people are still sour they bet a  maiden horse to 3/5 in his first start of the year and he was third by a length pacing his last 3/4 in 124.3 over a good track
yet tonight he jogs as follows
       back with regular trainer(oops nobody has mentioned that)
       equipment change(oops nobody noticed that)
       fast track
       tighter after that first start
proof he should get a year suspention
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Brown jug on May 17, 2019, 12:32:12 PM
right
he stiffed the horse last week so they could all cash at 2/5 last night
cmon man !!!
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Fatboy on May 17, 2019, 03:18:49 PM
right
he stiffed the horse last week so they could all cash at 2/5 last night
cmon man !!!

HOW ELSE WAS HE GONNA BE 2/5?
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: giddup on May 17, 2019, 04:07:37 PM
The AGCO judges report says...

Race 2 Clear. We do not consider the winner # 7 Tyga Hanover to be an abnormal change in performance.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 17, 2019, 05:59:22 PM
WINS BY 10 IN 1:51.2! 77z.chf 91.jzail


I TOLD YOU SO! 91zxa.1


Cheating Mother Fucker pure and simple. :1 91.jzail
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Fatboy on May 17, 2019, 06:08:38 PM
WINS BY 10 IN 1:51.2! 77z.chf 91.jzail


I TOLD YOU SO! 91zxa.1


Cheating Mother Fucker pure and simple. :1 91.jzail

 62za.clp
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on May 17, 2019, 07:31:58 PM
WINS BY 10 IN 1:51.2! 77z.chf 91.jzail


I TOLD YOU SO! 91zxa.1


Cheating Mother Fucker pure and simple. :1 91.jzail

Learn how to watch a race
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Germy dDay on May 17, 2019, 09:23:49 PM
WINS BY 10 IN 1:51.2! 77z.chf 91.jzail


I TOLD YOU SO! 91zxa.1


Cheating Mother Fucker pure and simple. :1 91.jzail

WHAT A FULL OF SHIT PIECE YOU ARE, IT TAKES A CHEAT TO KNOW A CHEAT
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Brown jug on May 17, 2019, 11:36:11 PM
it was a field of shit maidens
not like the horse stomped the free for all group
they all have to win the first race at some point
you don't control who is in the race with you
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 18, 2019, 01:33:31 AM
Learn how to watch a race


Try separating Crack smoking time from horse betting time. tmbz1
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 18, 2019, 01:35:27 AM
WHAT A FULL OF SHIT PIECE YOU ARE, IT TAKES A CHEAT TO KNOW A CHEAT



Clearly assclowns don't fall far from the tree. 43xc.2 43z.stf
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on May 18, 2019, 01:43:04 AM
it was a field of shit maidens
not like the horse stomped the free for all group
they all have to win the first race at some point
you don't control who is in the race with you


"It was a field of shit maidens" was exactly my point in reference to my original post. tmbz1

This horse is heading towards the North American Cup! hcx.1

And this race confirms that my original post was 100% right. tmbz1

The magnitude of stupidity exhibited by the Ass Kissing Clown Posse is mindboggling! 11.dt

Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: firebolt on May 18, 2019, 10:25:36 AM
Horse will get run over in NACup post parade
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: wiggles44 on May 20, 2019, 11:02:24 AM
Review with driver Donald Jobin concerning the performance of AMERICAN
ASSASSIN from race 8 on 12 May. After reviewing the race video and hearing the
explanation of the participant (and later reviewing race 3 from 16 December 2018), Mr.
Jobin was adjudged guilty of violating AGCO rule 22.12 (driving in an unsatisfactory
manner) and assessed a driving suspension of 10 days to be served 30 May to 8 June,
inclusive (SB 50944).
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on June 02, 2019, 02:25:13 AM
Tyga Hanover wins $80,000 Somebeachsomewher e for 3 year olds! 77z.chf 91.jzail

Beats Captain Ahab, Stag Party, Best In Show at 17-1! 96z.p

Again, I was 100% right! tmbz1 62za.clp

Filion should have been suspended. 91zxa.1

And to all the know nothing ass kissers.... 96z.p
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Brown jug on June 02, 2019, 10:35:21 AM
really
still going on because you lost $2.00 in his first start
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on June 02, 2019, 03:32:04 PM
Tyga Hanover wins $80,000 Somebeachsomewher e for 3 year olds! 77z.chf 91.jzail

Beats Captain Ahab, Stag Party, Best In Show at 17-1! 96z.p

Again, I was 100% right! tmbz1 62za.clp

Filion should have been suspended. 91zxa.1

And to all the know nothing ass kissers.... 96z.p

Again, you are 100% retarded. You should have been impressed with the ability of the horse to almost win after that trip, first start out. Read what I said. Horse traveled so many extra feet than others. Nothing you said was ever proved. if you think that horse was stiffed you really should give up the game.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: jdogg1977 on June 02, 2019, 05:58:36 PM
really
still going on because you lost $2.00 in his first start

I promise you that loser didn’t cash at 17-1 either. Congrats swoodtard, you were correct. Net profit like your entire life $0
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on June 02, 2019, 06:00:15 PM
If you ever have any doubts about why harness racing is dying just read the mindless CRACKHEADS on Plop. tmbz1

The clueless idiots totally ignore the fact the Filion came flying in the stretch only to pull the left rein and bury Tyga Hanover behind the 3 horses who had pulled away in the stretch.

Filion refused to keep his same path or move one position over to his right down the stretch.

Fuck all you morons and your stupid trip excuses Filion wins if he doesn't bury him. :1

His trip had no negative affect he could have won if Filion wanted to win. :1

This is about Filion's choice to bury him behind the leaders and run them over at the wire. :1

100% fuck job by Filion and he almost ran into the horses he ducked behind. 96z.p

Harness racing is full of suckers and idiots who don't know shit about horses muchless handicapping. 43z.stf

If not for casino welfare you losers couldn't hold a job at McDonalds. 11.dt
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on June 02, 2019, 06:02:10 PM
I promise you that loser didn’t cash at 17-1 either. Congrats swoodtard, you were correct. Net profit like your entire life $0


Take a look at my ADW account and ask everybody at the otb, I told all of them this horse would win and why. tmbz1

Get a fucking clue. 96z.p
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Sea Biscuit on June 02, 2019, 06:07:04 PM

Take a look at my ADW account and ask everybody at the otb, I told all of them this horse would win and why. tmbz1

Get a fucking clue. 96z.p

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DAN, ASS CANCER WOULD BE TOO NICE FOR THIS CRACKHEAD
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 02, 2019, 06:36:53 PM
There is no help for a paranoid schizophrenic.
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Fatboy on June 02, 2019, 06:38:44 PM
Swoodall nobody cares about your readboarding or you losing your two bucks go cry a river somewhere else. You know fuck all and you prove it with your posts so again STFU.
73cv.2
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on June 03, 2019, 01:51:18 AM
Redboarding? 43z.stf

I was on this horse and Filion's drive immediately. tmbz1

I bumped this thread everytime he raced. tmbz1

And he proves me right by sticking his win right up the ass of Alagna and Coleman. tmbz1

Hate me all you want. tmbz1   I feed off of it. hcx.1

But you can't deny I rode this pony all the way into a decent score. tmbz1

Learn The Game Laddies! 95xz.2
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Calhoun on June 03, 2019, 06:32:34 AM
Swoodall nobody cares about your readboarding or you losing your two bucks go cry a river somewhere else. You know fuck all and you prove it with your posts so again STFU.
^^ another episode of The Lice Man Chronicles ^^ brought to you by Lice Man.

Swoodal's opinions are 1000x more useful than any absolute total bullshit you spew.

You should stick to inspecting and reporting on race track toilets.  That's your expertise.

Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Powerful Patricks Ghost on June 03, 2019, 08:21:18 AM
If you ever have any doubts about why harness racing is dying just read the mindless CRACKHEADS on Plop. tmbz1

The clueless idiots totally ignore the fact the Filion came flying in the stretch only to pull the left rein and bury Tyga Hanover behind the 3 horses who had pulled away in the stretch.

Filion refused to keep his same path or move one position over to his right down the stretch.

Fuck all you morons and your stupid trip excuses Filion wins if he doesn't bury him. :1

His trip had no negative affect he could have won if Filion wanted to win. :1



How are you not in an institution for the mentally deficient?
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: Bernie Madoff on June 03, 2019, 09:04:19 AM
How are you not in an institution for the mentally deficient?






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Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: swoodall on June 05, 2019, 01:04:48 AM
Saturday June 8th @ Woodbine Mohawk Park....North American Cup Eliminations

Second Elim from post 8............drum roll please........... .....Tyga Hanover! 87xc.2 11.wp

 tmbz1 62za.clp hcx.1
Title: Re: Hey Woodbine! Given Your Recent Suspensions, Filion Must Be Suspended Too.
Post by: jdogg1977 on June 05, 2019, 07:24:33 AM
Congrats Steve,

Since you were so correct on this, Illinois has chosen to award you with the title of Illinois biggest degenerate gambler. You have beaten out the likes of crazy Henry, the guy who used to spit on the TVs on the 2nd floor of Balmoral. Also you have beaten the crazy white kid with the curly hair who looked like Willie Aames.

 We will need you to pose while we construct your statue. You’ll have to hold in the captain morgan pose. Don’t worry we’ll tie a rope to your leg so someone can hold it up for you. You also have won a years supply of pork steaks(estimated retail value $7.00)

Take a bow(If you can), you are the biggest loser
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