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Title: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: dinkadoo on August 03, 2019, 04:44:59 PM
Listening to the three musketeers give an opinion on the OAKS, they shared a conversation one had with Simon Allard who is co-favorite that while racing at Pocono in recent starts against older -- they weren't racing hard 
In three starts, finished 2nd,2nd and 3rd at short odds,  getting beat in :54

As a judge, is it their responsibilities to protect the public  ngc3 when a driver says they aren't trying ?

She wins the Oaks in 50.2
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: Bernie Madoff on August 03, 2019, 04:51:02 PM
Both.
Title: I love watching Rene Allard win at the Meadowlands!
Post by: stanetelman on August 03, 2019, 04:53:59 PM
I guarantee Jeff Gural doesn't love it!!!!
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: zoot on August 03, 2019, 04:56:14 PM
thorobred people constantly speak in terms of "prepping"  for a bigger race down the road. why is that different ?
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: dinkadoo on August 03, 2019, 05:02:41 PM
thorobred people constantly speak in terms of "prepping"  for a bigger race down the road. why is that different ?
its not

So should the judges or racing commission get involved. Granted it occurred in PA
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: spaheaven on August 03, 2019, 06:00:58 PM
Are you saying they use pari-mutual races as training miles???  Shocking.
Title: Re: I love watching Rene Allard win at the Meadowlands!
Post by: Low Groove on August 03, 2019, 06:08:40 PM
D Barn no problem.
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: dinkadoo on August 03, 2019, 06:22:14 PM
Are you saying they use pari-mutual races as training miles???  Shocking.
we all know that answer, but to have a driver say to a commentator who then says it on a live simulcast.....  73cv.2
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: chief yogi on August 03, 2019, 09:38:08 PM
drivers and trainers should keep quiet about it. they are trying to win the big race so its understandable.
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 03, 2019, 10:37:03 PM
I love it when a plan works
Title: Re: I love watching Rene Allard win at the Meadowlands!
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 03, 2019, 10:37:58 PM
No fucking chance against the boys
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: toothman on August 03, 2019, 11:20:05 PM
Ask Jole Bongiorno. he kinda blabbed just that a few years back, as i recall...
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: Superfecta on August 04, 2019, 12:59:24 AM
Ask Jole Bongiorno. he kinda blabbed just that a few years back, as i recall...

Yes Sir and all Joe got was a 1 year ban on giving any interviews.
Title: Re: Is it cheating or stiffing, what's your opinion
Post by: Jctoronto on August 04, 2019, 04:53:10 AM
Sears cant run down longshot mcclure in million dollar hambo

I had a 5 claimer fave tonight who couldnt run down a wire to wire longshot.

Same kinda result. Same kinda payoff.

SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE...IN HARNESS RACING, IS THERE A DIFF.? a million dollar race and a 6000 dollar race.
One race, horses owned by guys who own corporations..the other race, guys who barely can rub two nickels together.
So whats the difference..is there a difference? its one of the 'dirty' allures of harness racing.

Are you racing to win every time?  Of course not.  In harness racing, often youre racing for next week's 'score'.

What do you tell your owners when you lose the hambo by a head?  Is it the the same thing you tell the halfass owner when you lose as favorite by a head in a 5 claimer?

in both cases, words uttered can include: 'can i still drive your other ones?'

good luck next time brian. or something.
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