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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: sfdecoy on August 06, 2020, 01:32:47 PM
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Race 4 Harrah's Philly
What a stiff job on a 1/2 shot.
Made it look good, though, and came right where he wanted, 2nd place.
What a cheating cocksucker....pie ce of shit.
Fuck off, Ginger.
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Who can I mail their $.29 to
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Actually, you dumb cunt with the stale comeback, I had about $200 pk3s.
So, it cost me over a grand. I'll make it back but getting completely stiffed like that aint cool.
Unlike you, I actually bet rather significant money, usually about $30k/day or more on the weekends.
So, you're a tad off with the .29 comment. But I imagine you've been "off" for most of your life, if that's the best you can do in terms of a comeback.
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Actually, you dumb cunt with the stale comeback, I had about $200 pk3s.
So, it cost me over a grand. I'll make it back but getting completely stiffed like that aint cool.
Unlike you, I actually bet rather significant money, usually about $30k/day or more on the weekends.
So, you're a tad off with the .29 comment. But I imagine you've been "off" for most of your life, if that's the best you can do in terms of a comeback.
30k a day or more? Wow.
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That’s a lot of dough
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it sounds like a lot but not really to anyone who bets decent amounts
assume you are playing at least 2 tracks and 20 races
ad in all the multi leg wagers, it adds up quick
i dont blame the guy for being upset, it sucks when you dont get a fair ride, and we know it happens many timers for all kinds oif reasons
however i do suspect that there will be none of the bs at the big m saturday
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There should be absolutely no drivers playing freddy fuckaround at the Big M on Saturday. Ive been in that room on big nights. Personal relationships are left at the door. We're here to win
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the optics of the race do not look good
winner went wire to wire
front half 59.3
back half in 56.1
Tetrick closed 6 lengths and paced back half in :55 at 1-2 odds
NW of 2 --- eligible next start...
call the author a crybaby or whatever --- whine that he lost $2 OR $200
this is still a business that the model thinks that the owner/trainer are the customer -- not the gambler.
--- ahhh lets teach her to race off the backend. Give her a nice easy start. Get her ready for a future start..... That's what's best for us --- The gambler ? ngc3 sucks to be them ngc3
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I've been telling the guys I sit with for at least 20 years when a guy is just racing for second. 11.wp
I am amazed at how many seasoned horse players don't know the difference. angbk
Straight non winners and high level conditions where a guy wants to drop money from his earnings so he can drop the horse next start are the worst. 11.wp
Is this part of owning and racing horses?....of course.
But is it still a stiff?....ABSOLUTELY!
I have a good example for you for Saturday night. tmbz1
Unbroken Circle in the 5th race with Casey Leonard. 91zxa.1
100% stiff job last start at 6/5. 94z.sm
Stayed last as usual then moves around the final turn turning for home.
Could have taken the same outside path as Lackey on the 9 whom he was following.
Instead Casey buries the horse inside and gets blocked by dead horses in the stretch.
This move was intentional because Casey had 1/2 the friggin track to himself on the outside but instead made the choice to turn left and bury him.
100% classic stiff. 62za.clp
Will he get a price?....Probably not. 11.wp
But he did bury the chalk in a Pk5 and Pk4 sequence last time though. hcx.1
I was already out so it didn't affect me at all. 98za.ag
I didn't have Freddie Patton Jr at 46-1 in the 1st race to start the sequence. hcx.1
Casey ensured a Pk5 rollover and denied the brothers a chance to take down the whole pool! 98za.ag
So was there a method to this madness? I think so. 62za.clp ngc3 ngc3
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it sounds like a lot but not really to anyone who bets decent amounts
assume you are playing at least 2 tracks and 20 races
ad in all the multi leg wagers, it adds up quick
i dont blame the guy for being upset, it sucks when you dont get a fair ride, and we know it happens many timers for all kinds oif reasons
however i do suspect that there will be none of the bs at the big m saturday
Jug - first I trust dinkadoo appraisal. Wouldn't be surprised if the race was funky. Especially if it was a nw of 1, 2 etc.
And no disrespect intended to anyone but nobody except for a professional gambler is betting 30 k. Especially not every day. And a professional gambler ain't going anywhere near some fucking race at Harrah's.
Anyone betting 30 k a day even with churning is going to be pissing in a plastic jug rather than a toilet within a very short time. 3 k would be possible - but that guy or gal would go belly up quick. Serious gamblers pick there spots and those spots aren't likely to involve anyone named Tetrick, Sears, Campbell, Fillion, but rather Ortiz, Stevens, cordero, turcotte etc.
Listen to a guy like Andy Beyer's sometime.
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Race 4 Harrah's Philly
What a stiff job on a 1/2 shot.
Made it look good, though, and came right where he wanted, 2nd place.
What a cheating cocksucker....pie ce of shit.
Fuck off, Ginger.
you are 100% correct,that was so bad,total stiff,sad
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Jug - first I trust dinkadoo appraisal. Wouldn't be surprised if the race was funky. Especially if it was a nw of 1, 2 etc.
And no disrespect intended to anyone but nobody except for a professional gambler is betting 30 k. Especially not every day. And a professional gambler ain't going anywhere near some fucking race at Harrah's.
Anyone betting 30 k a day even with churning is going to be pissing in a plastic jug rather than a toilet within a very short time. 3 k would be possible - but that guy or gal would go belly up quick. Serious gamblers pick there spots and those spots aren't likely to involve anyone named Tetrick, Sears, Campbell, Fillion, but rather Ortiz, Stevens, cordero, turcotte etc.
Listen to a guy like Andy Beyer's sometime.
I don't exactly have time for a rebuttal but I can tell you the number I stated is true. I play the amount I do because among other reasons, I've built of this type of bankroll. In other words, it is very possible to win. It takes a massive amount of time. I've now been handicapping for over 30 years. I am sure many on this board have been at it for longer than that. I am good at what I do and enjoy it.......I've been royally fucked a million times and chalk it up as part of the game. I've certainly taken worse beats than the (roughly) $2k Cheattrick beat me out of today. It happens on nearly a daily basis. However, it doesn't make it right and that fuckhead should have more respect for the business that has made him a pretty wealthy guy.
Good luck to all on Sat.
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I don't exactly have time for a rebuttal but I can tell you the number I stated is true. I play the amount I do because among other reasons, I've built of this type of bankroll. In other words, it is very possible to win. It takes a massive amount of time. I've now been handicapping for over 30 years. I am sure many on this board have been at it for longer than that. I am good at what I do and enjoy it.......I've been royally fucked a million times and chalk it up as part of the game. I've certainly taken worse beats than the (roughly) $2k Cheattrick beat me out of today. It happens on nearly a daily basis. However, it doesn't make it right and that fuckhead should have more respect for the business that has made him a pretty wealthy guy.
Must be Danny or Patsy or Glen or Babe or Kenny or Al although the last three are deceased.
Good luck to all on Sat.
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He would probably call it schooling a 2 year old. I call it a total stiff job. Timmy did the same thing on Sunday at chester, look it up
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Jug - first I trust dinkadoo appraisal. Wouldn't be surprised if the race was funky. Especially if it was a nw of 1, 2 etc.
And no disrespect intended to anyone but nobody except for a professional gambler is betting 30 k. Especially not every day. And a professional gambler ain't going anywhere near some fucking race at Harrah's.
Anyone betting 30 k a day even with churning is going to be pissing in a plastic jug rather than a toilet within a very short time. 3 k would be possible - but that guy or gal would go belly up quick. Serious gamblers pick there spots and those spots aren't likely to involve anyone named Tetrick, Sears, Campbell, Fillion, but rather Ortiz, Stevens, cordero, turcotte etc.
Listen to a guy like Andy Beyer's sometime.
The $1 bills don't have any zeros and the thousands have 3 zero's. ngc3
Surprises me that a winning huge $ (and I mean huge not big) gambler doesn't know the hazzards of betting nw races. A lot of times I handicapp them among the obvious picks by going with who wants to lose the least.
No disrespect, but I taint believing you. Good luck with whatever ur betting though and it does suck when you get screwed. And it sounds like from a few of the quality race analysts on here that you did get screwed.
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the optics of the race do not look good
winner went wire to wire
front half 59.3
back half in 56.1
Tetrick closed 6 lengths and paced back half in :55 at 1-2 odds
NW of 2 --- eligible next start...
call the author a crybaby or whatever --- whine that he lost $2 OR $200
this is still a business that the model thinks that the owner/trainer are the customer -- not the gambler.
--- ahhh lets teach her to race off the backend. Give her a nice easy start. Get her ready for a future start..... That's what's best for us --- The gambler ? ngc3 sucks to be them ngc3
tmbz1 tmbz1 You are 100% correct!
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Watch race 6, do you think Billy Carter was hoping Gregory went by ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Take a look at Jody Jameson in Woodbine/Mohawk 2nd race on a 1/5 horse. This is a real cheat.
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tmbz1 tmbz1 You are 100% correct!
I am as "seasoned" as it gets and I wasn't complaining. I made the post to expose a cheat and tell his ginger ass to fuck off.
It was a typical bet for me, so it may be "fistfuls" for a presumed "lightweight" like you, but not for me.
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...I had about $200 pk3s.
I just want to verify this. Are you saying you bet $200 on a pk3 at Philly with odds of 2-1, 1-2 and 3-5? I have a long-time friend who made similar bets (it was exactas with the big favorite) and it did not end well. Of course I must invoke "past performance is no guarantee of future results".
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I just want to verify this. Are you saying you bet $200 on a pk3 at Philly with odds of 2-1, 1-2 and 3-5? I have a long-time friend who made similar bets (it was exactas with the big favorite) and it did not end well. Of course I must invoke "past performance is no guarantee of future results".
Buddy,
Sometimes I bet chalk and sometimes I don't. It all depends on where I can find perceived value, just like any other seasoned handicapper. And yes, an extremely chalky Pk3 like that can have value. 10 to 14-1 on one's money can be value in the right circumstances. Of course, if I am explaining this to you...........
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I've been telling the guys I sit with for at least 20 years when a guy is just racing for second. 11.wp
I am amazed at how many seasoned horse players don't know the difference. angbk
Straight non winners and high level conditions where a guy wants to drop money from his earnings so he can drop the horse next start are the worst. 11.wp
Is this part of owning and racing horses?....of course.
But is it still a stiff?....ABSOLUTELY!
I have a good example for you for Saturday night. tmbz1
Unbroken Circle in the 5th race with Casey Leonard. 91zxa.1
100% stiff job last start at 6/5. 94z.sm
Stayed last as usual then moves around the final turn turning for home.
Could have taken the same outside path as Lackey on the 9 whom he was following.
Instead Casey buries the horse inside and gets blocked by dead horses in the stretch.
This move was intentional because Casey had 1/2 the friggin track to himself on the outside but instead made the choice to turn left and bury him.
100% classic stiff. 62za.clp
Will he get a price?....Probably not. 11.wp
But he did bury the chalk in a Pk5 and Pk4 sequence last time though. hcx.1
I was already out so it didn't affect me at all. 98za.ag
I didn't have Freddie Patton Jr at 46-1 in the 1st race to start the sequence. hcx.1
Casey ensured a Pk5 rollover and denied the brothers a chance to take down the whole pool! 98za.ag
So was there a method to this madness? I think so. 62za.clp ngc3 ngc3
Leonard didn’t stiff shit!
That was a 8-10 claimer so no conditions dumb fuck.
Circle came home like she always does but front speed held on that race.
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Buddy,
Sometimes I bet chalk and sometimes I don't. It all depends on where I can find perceived value, just like any other seasoned handicapper. And yes, an extremely chalky Pk3 like that can have value. 10 to 14-1 on one's money can be value in the right circumstances. Of course, if I am explaining this to you...........
Even with a 26% takeout? That’s the last figure I could find (2017 - 2018).
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I've been telling the guys I sit with for at least 20 years when a guy is just racing for second. 11.wp
I am amazed at how many seasoned horse players don't know the difference. angbk
Straight non winners and high level conditions where a guy wants to drop money from his earnings so he can drop the horse next start are the worst. 11.wp
Is this part of owning and racing horses?....of course.
But is it still a stiff?....ABSOLUTELY!
I have a good example for you for Saturday night. tmbz1
Unbroken Circle in the 5th race with Casey Leonard. 91zxa.1
100% stiff job last start at 6/5. 94z.sm
Stayed last as usual then moves around the final turn turning for home.
Could have taken the same outside path as Lackey on the 9 whom he was following.
Instead Casey buries the horse inside and gets blocked by dead horses in the stretch.
This move was intentional because Casey had 1/2 the friggin track to himself on the outside but instead made the choice to turn left and bury him.
100% classic stiff. 62za.clp
Will he get a price?....Probably not. 11.wp
But he did bury the chalk in a Pk5 and Pk4 sequence last time though. hcx.1
I was already out so it didn't affect me at all. 98za.ag
I didn't have Freddie Patton Jr at 46-1 in the 1st race to start the sequence. hcx.1
Casey ensured a Pk5 rollover and denied the brothers a chance to take down the whole pool! 98za.ag
So was there a method to this madness? I think so. 62za.clp ngc3 ngc3
U ruined a thread about my old softball teammate by writing war and peace
Idk why u think u deserve an ego but u don’t quit making every thread about u please
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U ruined a thread about my old softball teammate by writing war and peace
Idk why u think u deserve an ego but u don’t quit making every thread about u please
You are a MORON
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Actually, you dumb cunt with the stale comeback, I had about $200 pk3s.
So, it cost me over a grand. I'll make it back but getting completely stiffed like that aint cool.
Unlike you, I actually bet rather significant money, usually about $30k/day or more on the weekends.
So, you're a tad off with the .29 comment. But I imagine you've been "off" for most of your life, if that's the best you can do in terms of a comeback.
Let get real here, you had a $200 Pick 3 in a pool of $1,413? With those price you would have got even money.
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I don't exactly have time for a rebuttal but I can tell you the number I stated is true. I play the amount I do because among other reasons, I've built of this type of bankroll. In other words, it is very possible to win. It takes a massive amount of time. I've now been handicapping for over 30 years. I am sure many on this board have been at it for longer than that. I am good at what I do and enjoy it.......I've been royally fucked a million times and chalk it up as part of the game. I've certainly taken worse beats than the (roughly) $2k Cheattrick beat me out of today. It happens on nearly a daily basis. However, it doesn't make it right and that fuckhead should have more respect for the business that has made him a pretty wealthy guy.
Good luck to all on Sat.
If you're so astute of a handicapper you wouldn't be betting a $200 pick 3 into a $1,413 pool. Maybe he cost you a profit of $200.
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If you're so astute of a handicapper you wouldn't be betting a $200 pick 3 into a $1,413 pool. Maybe he cost you a profit of $200.
It's offshore, hillbilly
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There you go . Offshore was giving him 10-1 odds . They won he lost . Next bet .
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Leonard didn’t stiff shit!
That was a 8-10 claimer so no conditions dumb fuck.
Circle came home like she always does but front speed held on that race.
I know you are not southern so why do you read like a stupid hillbilly?
You can't understand simple concepts or follow simple posts. 11.hmzr
As I said EXACTLY in my post Casey's drive was a good example of a stiff. 11.wp
You not understanding there are two distinct parts to my post, one not related to the other is your problem.
Loan Casey those coke bottle glasses you have so he can see where the open track is next drive. 95xz.2
Update: I said Unbroken Circle was in the 5th Saturday but that is not correct. Unbroken Circle was an Also Eligible so when I did the entry search it didn't list A/E next to the entry. My bad.
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Offshore? ngc3 Stop embarrassing yourself now.
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He has no clue
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30k daily offshore yeah ok
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Lets just say THIS! There's not ONE capper here on PLOP betting 30K a day including this guy'!
PERIOD end of STORY! OFFSHORE my ASS! ngc3 That's moving over 10.9 MILLION a YEAR! But he's coming on here to bitch about a stiff job. Yeah..OK
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Lets just say THIS! There's not ONE capper here on PLOP betting 30K a day including this guy'!
PERIOD end of STORY! OFFSHORE my ASS! ngc3 That's moving over 10.9 MILLION a YEAR! But he's coming on here to bitch about a stiff job. Yeah..OK
While I agree with you 100%let me tell you what a teller told me.
When this teller was working at the tracks on a regular basis the Fruit Man and his brother would bring a gym bag with $25-$30K and keep it behind the tellers in the clubhouse.
These brothers own some grocery stores and they would bet against that bag of money and the tellers would take money out and put money back in the bag as they won or lost.
The tellers kept track of the money and the brothers trusted them and would tip them for their service.
And according to this teller they did this every night before covid.
They won big but they also lost big and when they ran a bad streak the losses were huge.
The discussion was about where the big gamblers were betting during covid.
It started out with a t-bred player who bets $10K to win in the Derby and another $10K on gimmicks but this guy hadn't been seen by any of management since covid started.
It was more of a conversation centered on whether some of these guys might be dead.
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The teller used her fathers card for rebates
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Wouldn't want the nickname the Fruitman. ngc3
In the gym bag with the $ there wasn't a ladies wig and some lube too, was there? Ask the teller.