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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: bond on August 13, 2020, 10:57:39 AM
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A friend of mine was going to claim a horse owned by a drivers wife. He was told if you do that you will be blackballed by other drivers-your horses will either get stiffed or get "brutal trips".
Also these horses never seem to get "roughed up"+ never get claimed-ie get every chance every start.
IMHO-drivers/family owning horses is BS and should be banned.
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if they pay for horse
whats the problem
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lots of drivers own horses as well as many trainers
its business
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Lucpark, you conveniently ignore bond's point.
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I have no problem with trainers or drivers owning horses.
I do have a problem if they own and aren't listed as owners.
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Why would a driver blackball someone because they claimed another drivers horse? Why should they care? You might piss off the trainer you're claiming from but thats part of the business.
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I have no problem with trainers or drivers owning horses.
I do have a problem if they own and aren't listed as owners.
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I have no problem with trainers or drivers owning horses.
I do have a problem if they own and aren't listed as owners.
Why wouldn't they be listed?
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Tony Morgan owned many horses or was partners on many horses on the Chicago circuit back in the day and was never listed as owner...side deals make it a cash type of business for him - officially being listed puts your business on the books
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I own or owned a piece of every horse in my barn, and not on deals either. You cant make money on a training bill anymore or 5% for being the trainer. I never had an owner complain that I had a piece of every thing. Never bitched when we had one claimed, smart enough to not try to pull off a scam on any owner. Never stiffed one or parked somebody´s horse cause he someone claimed from a drivers wife. Tony Morgan and Dave Palone made a living from being silent ¨partners¨ on horses.
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What advantage is there for the "real" owners to have a "silent" partner? So they can be responsible for his "share" ?Taxes, vet bills, feed, stakes payments ? All of you are delusional in your pursuit of "cheaters".
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Almost every driver i know owns, or has a family member who owns horses. its usually a family affair...older family memebrs own and train/young guns drive. Thats the business.
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best way to go, Have trainer own a part of horse, at least he'll get out of the stall then.
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What advantage is there for the "real" owners to have a "silent" partner? So they can be responsible for his "share" ?Taxes, vet bills, feed, stakes payments ? All of you are delusional in your pursuit of "cheaters".
If you were a "real" owner and your "silent partner" was Tony Morgan in Chicago - there were lots of advantages !$!$!$ - ask Bret Shultz or Jerry Grevengoed or many others..Tony is a terrific driver - an even better horseman and as everyone who knows Chicago harness well Tony made a lot of money racing in Chicago - for himself and for whoever partnered up with him...and the taxes and the bills etc? Yes the "real owner" is responsible - but Tony was very fair and that was part of the negotiation...
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Negotiating an invisible contract? That must have been interesting.
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driver wouldn't want to be listed in case he has opportunity to drive much better one in same race
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driver wouldn't want to be listed in case he has opportunity to drive much better one in same race
Aren't there rules against that?
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My partners liked the idea of me buying in on everything, we all made or lost money together. They also knew I was not afraid to get rid of junk, never afraid of taking the early loss. Cut the bleeding. They appreciated it.
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This sport is based on those who owned trained and drove their horses. How do you buck that kind of tradition?
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This sport is based on those who owned trained and drove their horses. How do you buck that kind of tradition?
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Nothing reserved in a claiming race. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
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Of course there’s rules against that. That’s why they don’t want to be listed
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If the Owner/Driver is going to have a problem with someone who claims a horse off of them then don't enter the horse in a Claiming Race.... Problem Solved