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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: swoodall on May 25, 2021, 03:37:06 PM
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Came inside to cool off and decided to watch Pocono while taking a break.
Watched 9th and 10th race.
In the 9th Mike Simons on the 4 at 20-1 morningline not picked opens up at 4/5.
As they are going to the gate he drops to 3/5 the would be favorite was 7/2.
Gate opens Simons goes up to 5-1 and favorite drops to 3/2.
If somebody really like Simons then the odds changes here are not drastic.
So the 10th board opens up and this time Simons is on the 7 at 20-1 but opens at 5/2.
Both Simons horses looked weak on paper neither one picked anywhere by anybody.
So Simons in the 10th stays steady around 5/2 as they go to the gate.
I'm thinking somebody in the barn either doesn't like money or they have inside info.
Gate opens Simons lags gate beats one horse and went off at 90-1!
Yes that number is correct went from 5/2 to 90-1. 91zxa.1
Even with small pools that huge change doesn't reflect just new late money in the pool.
Somebody clearly canceled their bets and it was done last second.
If this was an isolated case Racing Boards could just ignore it.
But this clowning shit happens all the time especially at harness tracks. 94z.sm
Horse racing needs to go back to the when you make the bet you own the tickets days.
No cancellations. No tote board manipulations. No excuses. 98za.ag
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Everything Pennsylvania is crooked. Not one legit race, not one legit human involved. If you race in Pennsylvania you are cheating scum.
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Everything Pennsylvania is crooked. Not one legit race, not one legit human involved. If you race in Pennsylvania you are cheating scum.
I agree............ .......one of the biggest phonies ever............. ..and his fat ass was in the winners circle on Sat.............. ...
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Harness racing does not care about harness racing. I think the best thing that can be done is to contact local reps and tell them about the corruption and suggest decoupling may be in order. I LOVED the sport, but now am rather unsatisfied with the joke.
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Then don’t watch it or participate!
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That is one solution, another is for me to try and get the tax dollars going to a better program.
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Btw...it happens at Hawthorne too.
Since Hawthorne opened someone has been betting Cordarius Stewart the same way.
Opens as chalk, hangs around low end then money is removed late.
Plus since Smolin came back this same shit with him has started again.
In Smolin's case somebody bets and then removes the bet several times before the race starts.
This has been happening for years with Smolin.
Without Smolin, the betting clown chose Stewart to fuck with. 94z.sm
Simple fix is to stop cancellations. tmbz1
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Swoodall I’m told you are the one doing it!!!!
Reliable source say you bet than remove your bet, than you come on here bitching about it ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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it happens everywhere. every track states check your tickets before leaving window and no exchanges ectra yet the odds games go on everywhere. the very late changes should not be allowed. maybe at the 0 mtp mark dont allow for any canceled tickets. even then its still hard as every track has a small cancel delay to protect them and the tellers from being stuck by a big bet that a customer says they cant pay for.
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parx got raided wirh many caught,hor they catch them at pocono next
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Solution is bigger handles than its impossible to take place.
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I rarely bet the sport anymore unless there is a mandatory payout. This has been a long issue when pools are so small and one can manipulate odds. I tend to trust that angle when betting the thoroughbreds. Harness it's just the inmates running the asylum.
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HARNESS RACING JUSTS NEEDS TO STOP
OR BE STOPPED
PERIOD
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Somebody was just messing around ten minutes ago in the Buckabet race. Literl Lad opened up with a thousand to win .. as they approached the gate he had 1600 to win. The race is over and he has 1300 and change on him to win. Somebody was playing games as usual.
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If there were real pools this would not happen. Happens at shithold all the time.