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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Seamus11 on August 21, 2021, 09:13:56 AM
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Heard from a reliable source that the Mackenzie dude is over $150,000 into that horse between the purchase, shipping etc. Any truth?
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Whatever the price is, this is a REAL NICE horse. He obviously can afford it. Watched him go some serious miles at the Ridge right out of the box. With the purses in NY and Cushing races there, he can easily make the purchase price back. And then have a really nice horse for the future.
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Whatever the price is, this is a REAL NICE horse. He obviously can afford it. Watched him go some serious miles at the Ridge right out of the box. With the purses in NY and Cushing races there, he can easily make the purchase price back. And then have a really nice horse for the future.
The training bill will be over 24,000 a year.
You have to take that into it. Trainer and driver get 5% each so house has to make 200,000 plus,if that is the price.
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The Cush makes out a expensive monthly bill
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cushing stinks and robs his owners,and he thinks hes good,cushing will make moey and the owners will lose
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decent horse. beat an ok field which the only real threat broke.
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So is it better for the owner to have a bunch of trackmaster 60 and under horses or some nw of a race this year? Improving the quality of horses is a good thing. So are we going to hear complaints next that the owner lives in a really nice home when he could easily live in a tent?
We have some big-time owners here. The Dillions, the Phipps, etc that have big stables that spend big money on horses too. And they keep spending each and every year
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Hartt, Varney, Dillon, Phipps, Hight, all owners with money.
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On that note (Phipps).... curious how there is never a word, good or bad, about the Athearn Stable. Seems like they just fly under the radar, work hard.... and do a nice job. True?
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athern stable should explane marks drive in the 8th race at skow town on saturday. mark spent whole race blocking the field so matty could win on their own horse.
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Matt athearn got lost the drive on stihl n at plainridge because he had a hissy fit at the trainer when mchugh replaced him with dexter dunn in the 50k race. Dunn didnt drive and graffam ended up driving. True story.
Chief is right on. It was obvious.
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The Bird threw in a clunker at the Ridge yesterday and didn't hit the board.
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Those were some nice horses... but he looked very “average.” Me thinks it will take a while to make his money back. However, with Windsor coming up.... and the track being a bit short of a half mile😳😳... could he be the first to break 1:50 there???
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lol 73cv.2 ngc3
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Setting things straight
1) My last name is Spelled “McKenzie”
2) The reliable source is “not so reliable” because the total amount of this horse was not $150,000 but thank you for building value in the horse
3) Horse has raced 4 times and made $30,000+ for me, you all do the math. An average horse races 24-28 times a year and knowing this horse is headed south once it’s fully acclimated (since it’s Winter time in Australia and he isn’t 100% himself yet, had to literally shave his winter hair off when he arrived) I don’t see there being a problem getting my money back. However, if any of you actually knew me, it’s not about the money.
4) I’ve had 5-6 different trainers over the 30+ years of owning horses and Cushing’s training bills have been right there in the middle of the pack. If anything my bills are probably higher then others because I tell Ron to buy top quality items (Brand Names) and have Vets do whatever my horses may need. I don’t cut corners with their care as so many others might do.
5) If Cushing robs his owners then why does he charge just $100 for shoeing. Has to be the cheapest in the state. Many of Cushing’s owners are business men or women and run successful business and I will not speak on their behalf but for me I know all the numbers and what’s happening to the point that I am willing to spend money for quality horses with the guy.
6) The race thursday. Ron never pulled the plugs or pushed the horse BECAUSE he could tell he was not the same so he did what was right by the horse and pulled him back in behind another horse coming home. There are a few drivers that would of put the whip to him many times when turning for home. I know most of you want the glory of winning one race in an extremely fast time and jeopardize having a nice/great open horse for 3-4 years to come
7) To Seamus11- think twice before betting on your reliable source or speaking about things you are getting second hand.
8) To oldjohn123- please factor in that after every race the Bird Dance races I give Ron an extra 10% in cash in hand on what he makes after the 5% trainer and driver fee. Just as a thank you!!
9) To the double- aka 4claimers. It cost just as much to keep a cheap 4claimer as a really nice one. If not more because they need more vet work. And I take it you’ve personally had Cushing as your trainer so you are talking from experience about his billing RIGHT?
10) To Pigland- I take it that Cushing has beaten you a few times and cost you money! Living legends don’t hide behind a screen name.
11) To deracingfan- only time will tell. The horse has a life time record of 35 starts 20 wins racing against the top horses down under, he has 4 starts in the US with 3 wins in the top classes….Must be something of an open horse seeing I’ve already had offers of more then I paid for him just after 4 races. The second win at Plainridge when Ranger tried to back down the half in the WINNERS OVER (56.1) My horse came from last, his back half in like 53.3 and win the race and the ear plugs never got pulled. Things that make you go “Hmmmmm…”
In conclusion you all know who PSM1970 is and I won’t hide behind a screen name or talk about things that I don’t have the true facts and knowledge of, and that is extremely reliable.
Jealousy really is a bitch
Scott
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I respect you for disclosing who you are. you are not hiding behind a name. So many people hide behind screen names and say false or vulgar statements. You state facts. One point that I can't understand is that you give out an additional 10% in cash. So you are giving out 20% to your driver/trainer? My question is WHY? You may be the only one in the industry that does that. We have some big-time owners here that have very successful companies from trucking to wood processing that can support their racing side.
You obviously don't hide facts. What do you do for a living? You must be successful to buy such a nice horse. Good Luck with him. I agree with you. Jealousy is what this sport is about. This is a fact.
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Ooohhhh....!!!!!! So you’re the jerk who owned the horse “Sweet Ride” and raced the poor thing into the ground !! One thing I know for sure... the people that talk about money either don’t have it..... or got it because Grandma/Grandpa died and left it to them!!
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McKenzie, I will tell you your hooked up with a non paying douchebag. When he was here in New York before he moved to Maine he owed everyone and still does. Cushing should pay his bills like all respectable horseman do.. As for you I don’t know you, but believe me you’ll get fucked in the end doing business with him. Keep him in Maine, we don’t need him here in New York.