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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: dinkadoo on February 15, 2022, 08:28:52 PM
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Impressive list of mares he covered
Agent Q (p, 3, 1:48.4, $1,240,820)
American Jewel (p, 3, 1:48.2, $1,840,565)
Anndrovette (p, 1:48, $3,544,930)
Bedroomconfession s (p, 1:48.4, $1,001,441)
Call Me Queen Be (p, 3, 1:49.1f, $1,378,315)
Economy Terror (p, 3, 1:49f, $1,627,794)
Ginger And Fred (p, 1:50.1f, $1,928,158)
Idyllic Beach (p, 2, 1:50.3, $1,155,274)
Kissin In the Sand (p, 3, 1:47.4 $1,741,094)
Krispy Apple (p, 1:48.4f, $1,905,676)
My Little Dragon (p, 1:48.1, $2,318,623)
Put On A Show (p, 1:47.3, $2,362,878)
Sandbetweenurtoes (p, 3, 1:49.1, $1,065,848)
Solar Sister (p, 1:49.4f, $1,012,209)
Somwherovrarainbo w (p, 1:48f, $1,342,848)
Ticket To Rock (p, 1:50.3f, $1,194,893)
Warrawee Ubeaut (p, 2, 1:48.3, $1,793,433)
Yagonnakissmeorno t (p, 1:49.3, $1,458,850)
Youaremycandygirl (p, 3, 1:48.2, $1,566,292)
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WOW tmbz1
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WOW IS RIGHT!!!! TREMENDOUS BOOK OF MARES!!! HE SHOULD BE A DOMINANT FORCE WITH THESE MARES!!
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WOW IS RIGHT!!!! TREMENDOUS BOOK OF MARES!!! HE SHOULD BE A DOMINANT FORCE WITH THESE MARES!!
He will be a top sire but then again there is always a Ralph Hanover possibility.
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Id much rather have a Papi Rob Hanover. Took a long time for TDS book to fill. ?????
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Does Allard still own Yagonnakissmeorno t ?
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How would he have done if Yannick was driving him with the new Meadowlands whipping rule? Yannick would get after him BIG TIME down the stretch. I mean Big Time. Hope he doesn't pass this trait on. You can't train attitude.
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Huge commitment to this first time sire. Will be a great yearling sale in a couple years.
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How about some great suggestions for the offspring????
- Short Honkey Neighbor
- Big Negro Gentleman
Or just plain old...
Pat Ewing
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How would he have done if Yannick was driving him with the new Meadowlands whipping rule? Yannick would get after him BIG TIME down the stretch. I mean Big Time. Hope he doesn't pass this trait on. You can't train attitude.
I think Yannick was fined for excessive use of whip for his drives on TDS at Lex last fall. He responded or at least kept going so it was a small price to pay for hanging on in the big purse races.
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How would he have done if Yannick was driving him with the new Meadowlands whipping rule? Yannick would get after him BIG TIME down the stretch. I mean Big Time. Hope he doesn't pass this trait on. You can't train attitude.
That's an interesting question. The same could be said for Captaintreacherou s when TT needed to get after him big time but obviously his foals have done well. It will be interesting to see how TDS's foals perform in the years ahead.
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of course, if you know how to manage a a stallion this is the way it is done
he will get every chance in the first two years
lets see if he can become the first good/great sire from bettors delight
here's hoping
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Id much rather have a Papi Rob Hanover. Took a long time for TDS book to fill. ?????
2nd crop
if 1st crop doesn't perform people won't be thrilled to pay big bucks for 2nd crop
look at the bath those who purchased American Pharoah's are taking on the other side
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That is a great book of mares. My question is, have you ever regretted to breeding to a stallion. Maybe you were drinking to much, lapse of judgement.
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Shartin N dropped a Captaintreacherou s filly today. tmbz1
the best race mares usually aren't good broodmares
Peace Corps
Moni Maker
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THERE WILL BE A LOT OF GELDINGS!!!!! I PERSONALLY FEEL THIS WAS A GREAT HORSE BUT BEING A STUD HURT HIM AS HE DID NOT MIND HIS BUSINESS. A LESSER HORSE WOULD OF BEEN GELDED AND TRULY LASTED A LONG TIME AT A PEAK LEVEL. HE WILL BE A GREAT SIRE!
CAPTAINTREACHEROU S TRULY WAS SIMILAR AND LOOK AT HIS FOALS!!
HOW ABOUT ADIOS? HE TRULY WAS A TOUGH HORSE---AND DID NOT GIVE 100% BUT HIS GAIT WAS OBVIOUS TO AT LEAST DELVIN.
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the best race mares usually aren't good broodmares
Peace Corps
Moni Maker
This is so true. So many disappointments. There has to be some flaw in the correlation to this formula of breeding the best to the best.
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the breeding business is the great unknown
it is proven that a mares performance on the track has little to do with their ability to produce good/great horses
of course perfect sting would dispel that
but then many great racemares who threw nothing would support it
certainly a form of gambling
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This is so true. So many disappointments. There has to be some flaw in the correlation to this formula of breeding the best to the best.
The flaw could be .JUICE !!!!!!!
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With the recent 3 or 4 stallion prospects from Cassie Coleman being flops, you would have to give that theory some strong consideration.
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Name 1 good stallion Takters have produced? Father Patrick is ok but not special. All failures as top stallions.
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i would suggest that always b miki is trending in the right direction but lets see
sweet lou is a useful sire and he was trained by burke ??
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With the recent 3 or 4 stallion prospects from Cassie Coleman being flops, you would have to give that theory some strong consideration.
American Ideal, Sportswriter and Betterthancheddar seem to be doing just fine.
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Kadarbra was pretty good.
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of course their will always be questions when it comes to trainers and ped etc
and yes they can and will make a horse go faster
but you cannot turn a poorly bred poorly conformed horse into a champion with these
that is to big of a stretch
and at the end of the day those enhancements if used do not really change the horses ability to be a good sire
it may change peoples perception of the horse and if they send a mare to him but that's all
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Kadarbra was pretty good.
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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of course their will always be questions when it comes to trainers and ped etc
and yes they can and will make a horse go faster
but you cannot turn a poorly bred poorly conformed horse into a champion with these
that is to big of a stretch
and at the end of the day those enhancements if used do not really change the horses ability to be a good sire
it may change peoples perception of the horse and if they send a mare to him but that's all
Always exceptions.. a horse on peds could drop from 1:49 to 1:47 and make a lot more money and get a lot more quality mares but he is still a 49 horse.
While conformation is important to a point it is not as important as when all but a few races were on a 1/2 mile track. Breeders do a hell of a job marketing their yearlings. Lots of programs show the sale price of the horse. Scary thing to look at when a $25,000 yearling jerks the bridle of the bell ringers at the sales just 8 or 9 months before.
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Miki was a monster on a big track but definitely had conformation issues. He was a knee knocker, 1/2 tracks were his kryptonite and every time he crossed the GWB, he laid down in the trailer and refused to get up. He reminds me of another of his ilk from back in the days of Hollywood Park named Adios Vic.
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American Ideal, Sportswriter and Betterthancheddar seem to be doing just fine.
That is why I said recent. I would not say Betterthanchedder doing just fine. If you purchased one of his colts for last years 2 year old races, of his 69 foals, 2 made made a profit.