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Title: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on December 30, 2022, 07:04:24 PM


 thestable.ca is having an auction on Preferred, as low as 1%

 most are over priced but there are #25, #175, #83 look like they're worth asking price and more.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Brown jug on December 30, 2022, 09:34:29 PM
its an auction
those are starting prices only
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: MikeAnt on December 30, 2022, 09:49:47 PM
If they sell too cheap they’ll take a ball pin hammer and pop the horse in the knee while they’re loading them to go to the winning bidder. You ain’t gonna get any bargain on line. The Jews make sure of that.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Brown jug on December 30, 2022, 10:03:00 PM
the horses are not going anywhere
you are only getting individual shares of a horses and you have to become a member of the stable
to be clear, not selling horses, just trying to get more members
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: MikeAnt on December 30, 2022, 10:17:13 PM
the horses are not going anywhere
you are only getting individual shares of a horses and you have to become a member of the stable
to be clear, not selling horses, just trying to get more members
More suckers. Smdh I know before on most of those on line auctions if the horse sells too cheap they take a ball pin hammer or rubber mallet and pop the horse once or twice in the knee or hock.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Open bridle on December 31, 2022, 09:08:03 AM
Buying 1% of any of  horse to me is not worth the time or money. Unless it's a HOY.  If you extrapolate these 1% prices some are ridiculous. Like BRACE FOR LANDING. They're asking $2100 for 1%.  So for 100% it's worth $210k when it's only made 17k this year.   
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Harness racer on December 31, 2022, 09:54:53 AM
Buying 1% of any of  horse to me is not worth the time or money. Unless it's a HOY.  If you extrapolate these 1% prices some are ridiculous. Like BRACE FOR LANDING. They're asking $2100 for 1%.  So for 100% it's worth $210k when it's only made 17k this year.

Agree...I think the jig is up on this ponzi scheme.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on December 31, 2022, 12:32:08 PM
its an auction
those are starting prices only



 ummm yup

 they start off with an asking price?



  most are over priced but there are #25, #175, #83 look like they're worth asking price and more.

* #83 looks like a really nice International Moni, Samo different Day family

* #175 is 2 Shares of a Nice Greenshoe filly (half sister to Fashion Woodshopper) & 2 shares of an International Moni half brother to Anoka Hanover.

*#25 was ONSS Grassroots champ I believe


 Those 3 lots are the only ones worth anything that isn't way over-priced
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: London on December 31, 2022, 03:47:58 PM
Can anyone honestly say they've gotten a purse check
...
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Open bridle on December 31, 2022, 10:16:58 PM
Can anyone honestly say they've gotten a purse check
...
Yes, many over the years. If that's what your asking.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Pixiegonewild on January 01, 2023, 10:18:17 AM
#25 will probably go for close to 1500 cad and probably still worth that:
At least he is proven and has lots of room to grow and improve -

Most others are/were listed at or above their Market Value

#230 is getting some attention - There are some nice 2yos in that bundle that could be useful horses

ANTILLES HANOVER -

EASY IN THE TURNS -

PURPLEPEOPLEATER -

SOUTHWIND DIGIT -

Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 01, 2023, 12:13:25 PM
#25 will probably go for close to 1500 cad and probably still worth that:
At least he is proven and has lots of room to grow and improve -

Most others are/were listed at or above their Market Value

#230 is getting some attention - There are some nice 2yos in that bundle that could be useful horses

ANTILLES HANOVER -

EASY IN THE TURNS -

PURPLEPEOPLEATER -

SOUTHWIND DIGIT -


 im watching #175, if no one bids then im going to grab it
*2 shares of Greenshoe filly- Flash Fly, half sister to  Fashion Woodshopper
*2 shares of International Moni colt- Antilles Hanover, half brother to Anoka Hanover

 1 share is no good, need 2 or more to make it worthwhile(per horse)



 #25 isn't worth $1500 for 1 share, that horse isn't worth 150k
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: TheGrimReaper on January 01, 2023, 12:26:01 PM
Walmart of horse ownership, pay a little, pay a little every month and get zero in return.  Pay day loans of harness racing.  Great marketing ploy, got to give them credit for that.  A deal to make Trump proud.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: COMPUTER on January 01, 2023, 12:32:20 PM
So if The Stable annual training cost is $30,900 plus expenses per horse plus expenses, staking, shipping, vet, all the normal padded expenses....... Who in their right mind would buy any percentage of this liability????
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Open bridle on January 01, 2023, 12:41:33 PM
So if The Stable annual training cost is $30,900 plus expenses per horse plus expenses, staking, shipping, vet, all the normal padded expenses....... Who in their right mind would buy any percentage of this liability????
People who don't know better. Own a little , pay a lot. Someone is making  a lot of $.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 01, 2023, 01:29:22 PM


 thestable.ca has been progressing with better babies & better race horses each year.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 01, 2023, 02:57:37 PM


 i was always skeptical but put in a lot of research & can easily break even & have some fun with a good deal on decent bred horses  (im interested in a Greenshoe filly)
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: MikeAnt on January 01, 2023, 05:02:40 PM
I’ve talked to several people who have lost their ass on any of these “own a piece of a champion” stable deals. The only people making money are the trainer and driver. The guy who puts these deals together gets a free ride as well. Better off donating your money to charity rather then the ponzy scammers.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Parked on January 01, 2023, 05:16:20 PM
These things have been in training at least 6 week. Are the ones that have not been fully bought into ??  Left overs ???   Like buying penny stock….
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: MikeAnt on January 01, 2023, 05:25:09 PM
These things have been in training at least 6 week. Are the ones that have not been fully bought into ??  Left overs ???   Like buying penny stock….
Not one owner in these deals has ever gotten a purse check. Only trainer and driver and middle man who put the deal together make money. Everyone else just pigeon buying into the ponzy.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Open bridle on January 01, 2023, 05:35:27 PM

 thestable.ca has been progressing with better babies & better race horses each year.
I agree they are progressing with buying better stock. But for me  I want my training bills to be solely for training horses. Not to include extensive interstate travel, second homes and family expenses.  He has already said in his video they are  justified expenses their clients should cover.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 01, 2023, 07:16:31 PM


 good, cheap fun.?
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: SDST2009 on January 01, 2023, 07:16:53 PM
These things have been in training at least 6 week. Are the ones that have not been fully bought into ??  Left overs ???   Like buying penny stock….

These are for sale by the shareholders in the horses; not the Stable itself.

Can anyone honestly say they've gotten a purse check
...

Yes. It's simple overhead costs versus money made. Like any other racehorse situation.

I don't think it's the gold standard by any means (at all), but at least there's more people involved in a rapidly dying sport than were before.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: COUNSELOR on January 01, 2023, 07:18:24 PM
I WOULD HAVE MY ATTORNEY OR CPA LOOK INTO THE CONSEQUNCES OF THESE TRANSACTIONS.   YOU MUT HAVE UNLIMITED LIABILITY IN ORDER TO AVOID A SEC VIOLATION OF AN ILLEGAL SALE OF SECURITIES---THEREFORE, I ASSUME THERE IS UNLIMITED PERSONAL RISK.   

ADDITIONALLY IN ORDER TO GENERATE THE TX LOSSES THE UNLIMITED RISK MUST STILL APPLY.   THESE FOLKS HAVE PUT THE PRODUCT OUT THERE BUT NOT SURE OF THE RETURNS.  THESE WERE COMMON IN THE OLD DAYS AND NO ONE EVER RECEIVED A DIME IN RETURN ----ZERO.   EVEN PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANIES LIKE SARATOGA STANDARDBREDS NEVER RETURNED ANY FUNDS.   IT WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO SEE IF ANYONE EVER RECEIVED A PENNY BACK ON THESE DEALS.

BUT--IF YOU HAVE MONEY AND HAVE A DECENT HORSE TO FOLLOW MAYBE IT WORKS FOR YOU!   I HAVE SEEN ZERO NEGATIVES ABOUT THESE FOLKS.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 01, 2023, 07:32:25 PM



 I registered about an hour ago!

 Going to dive in head first with 4 shares of 2 well bred babies

 Just to see how it goes, perhaps Ill take the plunge

Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: MikeAnt on January 02, 2023, 01:20:39 AM


 I registered about an hour ago!

 Going to dive in head first with 4 shares of 2 well bred babies

 Just to see how it goes, perhaps Ill take the plunge
Save your money and stop promoting these thieves. You know damn well that it’s a ponzy scam that no longer works.  If you have too much money donate to your local church or cancer fund.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Pixiegonewild on January 02, 2023, 09:06:37 AM
Donate to a different Ponzi scheme, Church or cancer research.

HaHaHa

Biggest Ponzi schemes ever built
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: The Exporter on January 02, 2023, 09:56:13 AM
Save your money and stop promoting these thieves. You know damn well that it’s a ponzy scam that no longer works.  If you have too much money donate to your local church or cancer fund.
Hey BIG Mouth, what is the definition of a Ponzi Scheme? Or as your big mouth says, "ponzy scam"?
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 02, 2023, 11:43:04 AM



 ending shortly, im going to try it out


 its only $
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Calhoun on January 02, 2023, 11:57:48 AM
Donate to a different Ponzi scheme, Church or cancer research.

HaHaHa

Biggest Ponzi schemes ever built
which horses do you own or train right now?
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: augustaandy on January 02, 2023, 12:29:47 PM
this has nothing to do with the stable, but other people have told me many of these partnerships mark up all their bills and take a % of the profits if there are any when the horses are disposed of

if you want a horse, buy one with some friends and eliminate the markups
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 02, 2023, 12:34:24 PM
this has nothing to do with the stable, but other people have told me many of these partnerships mark up all their bills and take a % of the profits if there are any when the horses are disposed of

if you want a horse, buy one with some friends and eliminate the markups


 gotta get in & get out at the right time

 i want in the Greenshoes
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: augustaandy on January 02, 2023, 01:02:11 PM

 gotta get in & get out at the right time

 i want in the Greenshoes


when you purchase a yearling you're trying to re-create the stallion

he was nothing at 2 years old and Sears drove him with kid gloves
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 02, 2023, 01:36:28 PM

when you purchase a yearling you're trying to re-create the stallion

he was nothing at 2 years old and Sears drove him with kid gloves


 should have tons of speed, soundness will be tbd
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 02, 2023, 02:06:30 PM


 if no bids then i will, have to run to store but I have it ready to go
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Locked in with pace on January 02, 2023, 02:23:55 PM
lots of no bids
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: SDST2009 on January 02, 2023, 02:48:32 PM

 should have tons of speed, soundness will be tbd

Also TBD is their sanity. He was quite lacking in that.
Title: Re: first sale of its kind
Post by: Brown jug on January 02, 2023, 03:41:07 PM
greenshoe yearlings were highest on average at lexington ahead of the next big 3 trotting  sires
less so at harrisburg but still decent
but owners /trainers were willing to take a chance and hope he passes on the good
should know in about 6 months
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