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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: MikeAnt on April 28, 2023, 02:46:44 PM
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Why does the race secretary keep putting 1/5 shot locks in these pick4/5 races? I mean all it does is reduce the wager down to a pick2 or 3. Move those 6 or 7 horse fields that have the standout 1/5 shot to the middle of card so they don’t water down the payout. Get a clue Hoosier reface office. This track is becoming little Yonkers with all of the cheating drug chemist and non winners guys stiffing horses to stay in the class. Please stop writing races nw/1 nw/2 nw/3 and just write non winners of 10k lifetime, non winners of 20k lifetime and non winners of 30k lifetime and so on. Enough of that stiffing to stay in the class by not winning. Take these guys like Eash, Rideout, Delong, macomber, Bender, wilfong amongst others. This shit has got to stop.
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Because Harrah's (amongst others) is a fucking cuntface!
Checked the program, not even a guaranteed p4, p5, p6.
Racing allows old ladies with crusty drawers to fart in a slot machine chair all day.
Last night's pick 6:
$0.20 Pick 6 -2-3-3-3-1-5,8 $177.56 $380.76 - $1,286.83 (handle $906.07) (carryover) $735.91 ngc3
Harrah's thinks their horse player is retarded and treats them like shit.
The drivers you mentioned, some of them are clueless, don't have the skill to fix a race, and them and their pets 2-3% winning percentage and how they look on the track is an indicator.
Everybody with a brain who was involved in a multi leg wager Wednesday was thrilled this guy was in it because he was an insta toss -10 Energy King
[10 8/9 6°/13H 7°°/16H 6/12 5/5T 1:58.4 27.2 *0.90 Doug Rideout Doug Rideout
Maybe we'll get lucky and all the casinos will fall into a sinkhole! ;D
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Laughing my ass off tonight at these Amish hillbillies driving at Hoosier. There are about 10 horses that were claimed tonight and some of these fucken drivers are actually sitting inside giving the claimed horse that they will no longer be driving a nice inside trip so the new trainer and owner get a nice fresh horse and the gambler who bet on them thinking they’d be rolling the horse cause it’s their last start get a big dick in their mouth. Are you fucken kidding me? Who are these jag offs that call themselves drivers and where did they come from, they’re mommas asshole? They announce in post parade that your horse is getting claimed and like a child molesting sock puppet queer you’re sitting 5th on the rail turning for home. You should get the head pole shoved up your ass upon pulling up the horse in the paddock area.
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Laughing my ass off tonight at these Amish hillbillies driving at Hoosier. There are about 10 horses that were claimed tonight and some of these fucken drivers are actually sitting inside giving the claimed horse that they will no longer be driving a nice inside trip so the new trainer and owner get a nice fresh horse and the gambler who bet on them thinking they’d be rolling the horse cause it’s their last start get a big dick in their mouth. Are you fucken kidding me? Who are these jag offs that call themselves drivers and where did they come from, they’re mommas asshole? They announce in post parade that your horse is getting claimed and like a child molesting sock puppet queer you’re sitting 5th on the rail turning for home. You should get the head pole shoved up your ass upon pulling up the horse in the paddock area.
After reading this I watched every claiming race replay that already ran there. I'm sure I didn't hear all the horses the race caller said were claimed before the gait opened but the ones that I heard claimed he said ran ok. I'm not doubting you, but when you don't watch live you're at disadvantage with replay only.
The purse is their salary and OUR betting pool they think is sucker money and their bonus.
Remember those horses for payback later and add fire to the end of that head pole you suggest. ;D
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Laughing my ass off tonight at these Amish hillbillies driving at Hoosier. There are about 10 horses that were claimed tonight and some of these fucken drivers are actually sitting inside giving the claimed horse that they will no longer be driving a nice inside trip so the new trainer and owner get a nice fresh horse and the gambler who bet on them thinking they’d be rolling the horse cause it’s their last start get a big dick in their mouth. Are you fucken kidding me? Who are these jag offs that call themselves drivers and where did they come from, they’re mommas asshole? They announce in post parade that your horse is getting claimed and like a child molesting sock puppet queer you’re sitting 5th on the rail turning for home. You should get the head pole shoved up your ass upon pulling up the horse in the paddock area.
Maybe most of these guys only earn money if the horse gets a check?
If you want, we can start a GoFundMe page to get your 2 bucks back?
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Maybe most of these guys only earn money if the horse gets a check?
If you want, we can start a GoFundMe page to get your 2 bucks back?
Let’s just say you are right. Even more so to pull the horse or drive the horse harder than ever have because you are most likely losing your drive? I mean why sit inside hoping for the Red Sea to part knowing it’s the last start?
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It's one thing to claim a horse when the last connection didn't want them anymore, maybe the NEW think they know something but to bet on CLAIMER races takes a special kind of moron. Yeh, better trainer change, I know, how's that working out on your bottom.....line! ;D
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It's one thing to claim a horse when the last connection didn't want them anymore, maybe the NEW think they know something but to bet on CLAIMER races takes a special kind of moron. Yeh, better trainer change, I know, how's that working out on your bottom.....line! ;D
It actually works out pretty good because even the most moronic trainer/ driver sends their horse knowing that this is it, last time to get anything so I gotta go balls out and not leave anything on the table. But at Hoosier, I guess my line of thinking is off base because hillbilly’s have a 3rd grade mentality. It does seem to work at most other tracks. But that’s what I get for trying to bet on the inbred moron child molesters who drive and race at Hoosier.
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It actually works out pretty good because even the most moronic trainer/ driver sends their horse knowing that this is it, last time to get anything so I gotta goes balls out. But st Hoosier, I guess my line of thinking is off base. It does seem to work at most other tracks. But that’s what I get for trying to bet on the inbred moron child molesters who drive at Hoosier.
Talk to the people at the claim box, horseman's bookkeeper. Be very friendly and yap it up with them but not as a gambler, maybe some insight. Maybe people claimed horses that turned out to be junkies, racing unwell, we have seen many times horses claimed not race back or anywhere, I don't always suspect injury, but maybe sick, withdrawal and trainers are not seeking more attention. New trainer may not always be honest with owner, as to make it look like they made a bad call and lose client.
About 6000 races worldwide per week, when the "food tastes sour" at Hoosier, time for a break to "dine" elsewhere or just a vacation period, come back there refreshed. A new track(s) will just be a brief adjustment period. Long term, navigate away from claiming races and stick to less races, and high value purses dispersed over more tracks. Make sure before you bet you give every horse a chance to tell you their story when handicapping, before you finalize.
You only owe yourself loyalty. GL! tmbz1
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Talk to the people at the claim box, horseman's bookkeeper. Be very friendly and yap it up with them but not as a gambler, maybe some insight. Maybe people claimed horses that turned out to be junkies, racing unwell, we have seen many times horses claimed not race back or anywhere, I don't always suspect injury, but maybe sick, withdrawal and trainers are not seeking more attention. New trainer may not always be honest with owner, as to make it look like they made a bad call and lose client.
About 6000 races worldwide per week, when the "food tastes sour" at Hoosier, time for a break to "dine" elsewhere or just a vacation period, come back there refreshed. A new track(s) will just be a brief adjustment period. Long term, navigate away from claiming races and stick to less races, and high value purses dispersed over more tracks. Make sure before you bet you give every horse a chance to tell you their story when handicapping, before you finalize.
You only owe yourself loyalty. GL! tmbz1
I don’t think you understand precisely what I am referring to. However, What I’m not referring to is the first start off the claim. What I am saying is 99% of the time at any racetrack, standardbred or tbred, when there is an announcement BEFORE the race that so and so has a claim filed, the trainer usually instructs the driver or jockey to go balls to walls because they are losing the horse and at no cost, do not leave anything on the track for the new connections. But for some reason these fucking inbred drivers at Hoosier know well ahead of time that said horse is being claimed, yet they sit on the rail trying to get an easy trip to conserve the horse for the following week, when they will most likely no longer get the drive and the trainer will lose the horse to the successful claimant. I don’t know about you, but for 50+ years most of the gamblers usually fire on the announced claimed horse because they understand that the announced claimed horse is are immediately “live” and going for it all. But again these Amish hillbillies at Hoosier save the horse so the new owners have a fresh horse for the following week in their first start. LMAO. It’s hilarious!!! If my driver knew that my horse was getting claimed and raced the horse easy, I’d punch him right in the face.
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agree 1/5 shots ruin p4 if they win
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I don’t think you understand precisely what I am referring to. However, What I’m not referring to is the first start off the claim. What I am saying is 99% of the time at any racetrack, standardbred or tbred, when there is an announcement BEFORE the race that so and so has a claim filed, the trainer usually instructs the driver or jockey to go balls to walls because they are losing the horse and at no cost, do not leave anything on the track for the new connections. But for some reason these fucking inbred drivers at Hoosier know well ahead of time that said horse is being claimed, yet they sit on the rail trying to get an easy trip to conserve the horse for the following week, when they will most likely no longer get the drive and the trainer will lose the horse to the successful claimant. I don’t know about you, but for 50+ years most of the gamblers usually fire on the announced claimed horse because they understand that the announced claimed horse is are immediately “live” and going for it all. But again these Amish hillbillies at Hoosier save the horse so the new owners have a fresh horse for the following week in their first start. LMAO. It’s hilarious!!! If my driver knew that my horse was getting claimed and raced the horse easy, I’d punch him right in the face.
You're applying logic, good logic, once all VERY GOOD handicappers used including after the claim if Horse claimed by better trainer might be a good follow and bet, maybe if moved outside claiming. Obviously it doesn't work now and it doesn't make sense why not try on a horse you're losing to another owner after the race, yet you say they don't try.
I got this all along, why I tried to deploy you to talk to the people behind the scenes, and generally speaking, EXCELLENT-Professional gambling handicappers avoid claiming races. tmbz1
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"maybe people claim horses that turn out to be junkies" Interesting thought in these times of small betting pools and high purses. The opposite of what it used to be. :P
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"maybe people claim horses that turn out to be junkies" Interesting thought in these times of small betting pools and high purses. The opposite of what it used to be. :P
In a very big stakes race, it's high profile too, best to race clean is the typical rule of thumb.
Business as usual though...In an incorruptible system where everything pre-race - post race is being done exactly to mitigate - prevent ie doping, etc and all those that are not only paid, but ethics demanded of them are doing what they are supposed to do......lol...... we live in the real world, with involved parties with families, planning to pay for education, weddings, buy a new car.....and once that line is crossed it's easier to stay on the side that makes life comfortable then go back to what's right.
In their mind, EVERYBODY IS DOING IT, and "everything is legal as long as you don't get caught!" - Bob Dylan tmbz1
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You're applying logic, good logic, once all VERY GOOD handicappers used including after the claim if Horse claimed by better trainer might be a good follow and bet, maybe if moved outside claiming. Obviously it doesn't work now and it doesn't make sense why not try on a horse you're losing to another owner after the race, yet you say they don't try.
I got this all along, why I tried to deploy you to talk to the people behind the scenes, and generally speaking, EXCELLENT-Professional gambling handicappers avoid claiming races. tmbz1
As a gambler I’ve never really cared much after the claim who the new connections are. What I’ve had much success at is betting on whoever the announced claimed horse is minutes before the race. It still works today after all this time, EXCEPT at Hoosier where the B-C drivers colony have no clue. However, with that being said I would never be scared to claim a horse at Hoosier because you don’t have to worry about the inbred drivers tearing up your new horse. Great place to claim a horse. Not like in New York where those guys with brutalize any claimed horse and give you an animal that will most likely need a week off.
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As a gambler I’ve never really cared much after the claim who the new connections are. What I’ve had much success at is betting on whoever the announced claimed horse is minutes before the race. It still works today after all this time, EXCEPT at Hoosier where the B-C drivers colony have no clue. However, with that being said I would never be scared to claim a horse at Hoosier because you don’t have to worry about the inbred drivers tearing up your new horse. Great place to claim a horse. Not like in New York where those guys with brutalize any claimed horse and give you an animal that will most likely need a week off.
This is a bit 73za.ot but I thought while you were in a sedate, good mood, you'd like it if you never saw it - I always handicap better with comedy as background noise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoBob9hiM2s
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This is a bit 73za.ot but I thought while you were in a sedate, good mood, you'd like it if you never saw it - I always handicap better with comedy as background noise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoBob9hiM2s
I don't expect your picks to do well if that's your background comedy. It was painful to listen to.
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I don't expect your picks to do well if that's your background comedy. It was painful to listen to.
Haku / Mike, horses, democrats, republicans, chinese, trannies, mouliniaks.....wh o fuckin' cares!
PLEASE DON'T CANCEL LAUGHING Motherfucker!
My shitty handicapping needs no words of encouragement / discouragement from YOU, it couldn't get shittier, I merely made a horse lose by rooting for it last week muchless picking & betting on it! 73cv.2
Have a great week and GL SUPERFECTA! <3 ;D
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Haku / Mike, horses, democrats, republicans, chinese, trannies, mouliniaks.....wh o fuckin' cares!
PLEASE DON'T CANCEL LAUGHING Motherfucker!
My shitty handicapping needs no words of encouragement / discouragement from YOU, it couldn't get shittier, I merely made a horse lose by rooting for it last week muchless picking & betting on it! 73cv.2
Have a great week and GL SUPERFECTA! <3 ;D
Good Luck to you as well AND put on an old concert of George Carlin and you will sweep whichever card you are handicapping. ;D
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Good Luck to you as well AND put on an old concert of George Carlin and you will sweep whichever card you are handicapping. ;D
"shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits." - Got it, 10-4, good referral, thanks! tmbz1
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In a very big stakes race, it's high profile too, best to race clean is the typical rule of thumb.
Business as usual though...In an incorruptible system where everything pre-race - post race is being done exactly to mitigate - prevent ie doping, etc and all those that are not only paid, but ethics demanded of them are doing what they are supposed to do......lol...... we live in the real world, with involved parties with families, planning to pay for education, weddings, buy a new car.....and once that line is crossed it's easier to stay on the side that makes life comfortable then go back to what's right.
In their mind, EVERYBODY IS DOING IT, and "everything is legal as long as you don't get caught!" - Bob Dylan tmbz1
Incredible visionary! Everyone should be made to listen to "Positively 4th Street"
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Incredible visionary! Everyone should be made to listen to "Positively 4th Street"
Great choice, <3 Bro! ;D
First yours, then mine tmbz1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsovdtBgz3Q
"You've got a lotta nerve to say you are my friend
When I was down you just stood there grinnin'
You've got a lotta nerve to say you got a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on the side that's winnin'
You say I let you down, ya know its not like that
If you're so hurt, why then don't you show it?
You say you've lost your faith, but that's not where its at
You have no faith to lose, and ya know it
I know the reason, that you talked behind my back
I used to be among the crowd you're in with
Do you take me for such a fool, to think I'd make contact
With the one who tries to hide what he don't know to begin with?
You see me on the street, you always act surprised
You say "how are you?", "good luck", but ya don't mean it
When you know as well as me, you'd rather see me paralyzed
Why don't you just come out once and scream it
No, I do not feel that good when I see the heartbreaks you embrace
If I was a master thief perhaps I'd rob them
And tho I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place
Don't you understand, its not my problem?
I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment I could be you
Yes, I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is to see you"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PabG3nJRu3k
"Tweeter and the Monkey Man were hard up for cash
They stayed up all night, selling cocaine and hash
To an undercover cop who had a sister named Jan
For reasons unexplained, she loved the Monkey Man
Tweeter was a boy scout 'fore she went to Vietnam
And found out the hard way nobody gives a damn
They knew that they'd find freedom just across the Jersey Line
So they hopped into a stolen car, took Highway 99
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
The undercover cop never liked the Monkey Man
Even back in childhood, he wanted to see him in the can
Jan got married at 14 to a racketeer named Bill
She made secret calls to the Monkey Man, from a mansion on the hill
It was out on Thunder Road, Tweeter at the wheel
They crashed into paradise, they could hear them tires squeal
The undercover cop pulled up and said, "Every one of you's a liar
If you don't surrender now, it's gonna go down to the wire"
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
An ambulance rolled up, a state trooper close behind
Tweeter took his gun away and messed up his mind
The undercover cop was left tied up to a tree
Near the souvenir stand by the old abandoned factory
Next day the undercover cop was hot in pursuit
He was taking the whole thing personal, he didn't care about the loot
Jan had told him many times, "It was you to me who taught
In Jersey, anything's legal as long as you don't get caught"
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
Someplace by Railway Prison, they ran out of gas
The undercover cop had cornered 'em said, "Boy, you didn't think that this could last"
Jan jumped out of bed, said, "There's someplace I gotta go"
She took a gun out of the drawer and said, "It's best if you don't know"
The undercover cop was found face down in a field
The Monkey Man was on the river bridge using Tweeter as a shield
Jan said to the Monkey Man, "I'm not fooled by Tweeter's curl
I knew him long before he ever became a Jersey girl"
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
Now the town of Jersey City is quieting down again
I'm sitting in a gambling club called The Lion's Den
The TV set was blown up, every bit of it was gone
Ever since the nightly news show that the Monkey Man was on
I guess I'll go to Florida and get myself some sun
There ain't no more opportunity here, everything been done
Sometimes I think of Tweeter, sometimes I think of Jan
Sometimes I don't think about nothing but the Monkey Man
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell"
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Great choice, <3 Bro! ;D
First yours, then mine tmbz1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsovdtBgz3Q
"You've got a lotta nerve to say you are my friend
When I was down you just stood there grinnin'
You've got a lotta nerve to say you got a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on the side that's winnin'
You say I let you down, ya know its not like that
If you're so hurt, why then don't you show it?
You say you've lost your faith, but that's not where its at
You have no faith to lose, and ya know it
I know the reason, that you talked behind my back
I used to be among the crowd you're in with
Do you take me for such a fool, to think I'd make contact
With the one who tries to hide what he don't know to begin with?
You see me on the street, you always act surprised
You say "how are you?", "good luck", but ya don't mean it
When you know as well as me, you'd rather see me paralyzed
Why don't you just come out once and scream it
No, I do not feel that good when I see the heartbreaks you embrace
If I was a master thief perhaps I'd rob them
And tho I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place
Don't you understand, its not my problem?
I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment I could be you
Yes, I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is to see you"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PabG3nJRu3k
"Tweeter and the Monkey Man were hard up for cash
They stayed up all night, selling cocaine and hash
To an undercover cop who had a sister named Jan
For reasons unexplained, she loved the Monkey Man
Tweeter was a boy scout 'fore she went to Vietnam
And found out the hard way nobody gives a damn
They knew that they'd find freedom just across the Jersey Line
So they hopped into a stolen car, took Highway 99
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
The undercover cop never liked the Monkey Man
Even back in childhood, he wanted to see him in the can
Jan got married at 14 to a racketeer named Bill
She made secret calls to the Monkey Man, from a mansion on the hill
It was out on Thunder Road, Tweeter at the wheel
They crashed into paradise, they could hear them tires squeal
The undercover cop pulled up and said, "Every one of you's a liar
If you don't surrender now, it's gonna go down to the wire"
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
An ambulance rolled up, a state trooper close behind
Tweeter took his gun away and messed up his mind
The undercover cop was left tied up to a tree
Near the souvenir stand by the old abandoned factory
Next day the undercover cop was hot in pursuit
He was taking the whole thing personal, he didn't care about the loot
Jan had told him many times, "It was you to me who taught
In Jersey, anything's legal as long as you don't get caught"
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
Someplace by Railway Prison, they ran out of gas
The undercover cop had cornered 'em said, "Boy, you didn't think that this could last"
Jan jumped out of bed, said, "There's someplace I gotta go"
She took a gun out of the drawer and said, "It's best if you don't know"
The undercover cop was found face down in a field
The Monkey Man was on the river bridge using Tweeter as a shield
Jan said to the Monkey Man, "I'm not fooled by Tweeter's curl
I knew him long before he ever became a Jersey girl"
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
Now the town of Jersey City is quieting down again
I'm sitting in a gambling club called The Lion's Den
The TV set was blown up, every bit of it was gone
Ever since the nightly news show that the Monkey Man was on
I guess I'll go to Florida and get myself some sun
There ain't no more opportunity here, everything been done
Sometimes I think of Tweeter, sometimes I think of Jan
Sometimes I don't think about nothing but the Monkey Man
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell
And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell"
Abso-positively tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1