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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Superfecta on May 16, 2023, 03:35:33 PM
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The Meadowlands is having a handicapping contest on Saturday for 18-30 year olds only. Isn’t that discriminating ? Can he legally do that ?
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The Meadowlands is having a handicapping contest on Saturday for 18-30 year olds only. Isn’t that discriminating ? Can he legally do that ?
Is it this one (below)?
https://playmeadowlands.com/handicapping/contests-challenges/
If it is it's 18 or over, legal gambling age....
The only reference to "30" as I read it is...
"The deadline for selections each day is 30 minutes before 6:20 p.m. post time for the first race. After 30 minutes to post, all selections are final."
Is it possible it was just read wrong?, or maybe provide a link to the handicapping contest in question. Thanks SUPERFECTA! tmbz1
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That’s not it. It’s an on track contest with $5,000 in prize money. It clearly says 18 year old to 30 year old. They have been doing it for about 4-5 years now. It just bothers me that if I wanted to enter I can’t. More Big M bullshit.
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I would post the link but I don’t know how to do it. I read about it at the USTA site.
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That’s not it. It’s an on track contest with $5,000 in prize money. It clearly says 18 year old to 30 year old. They have been doing it for about 4-5 years now. It just bothers me that if I wanted to enter I can’t. More Big M bullshit.
The $5000 was a good lead, thank you, different contest for sure lol I found it. I'll talk to their attorneys to understand their rationale besides exclusion and wanting to aim youth (18-30) to be degenerate gamblers. I'll advise soon. Thanks. ;D
https://www.drf.com/news/meadowlands-weekend-races-be-broadcast-nationally
https://ustrottingnews.com/meadowlands-to-host-30-and-under-handicapping-contest-saturday/
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Thanks !!!
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Thanks !!!
I spoke with Christy in guest services, and likely we figured out the person who was possibly the brain trust, responsible party and launcher of the contest, Director of Marketing & Event Operations Meadowlands Racetrack, Rachel Ryan, and I just left a message in her vm, 201 842 5015, and if it's not her that she forward to whomever, and if I don't hear back I'll reach out to Jeff. I was nice though in the vm.
Sadly, I'm not sure age class in "contests'' may or may not fall under "sweepstakes" too, is protected like jobs, housing....but we're trying to figure it out.
Some federal guidance, and I believe the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) governs Contest law in the US, USPS if by mail too:
Eligibility
You must fully disclose who is eligible to participate in the promotion. This can specify age, location, and other factors, but all eligibility requirements must be transparent and permitted by law. In addition, it is generally wise to exclude any persons related to your company or the promotion.
As far as New Jersey...I think their information might be reliable:
https://american-sweeps.com/sweepstakes-contest-laws/new-jersey/
Not looking good bro! They really need us to cherry pick their races and BANDED the rest very vocally, and tell the media they want to turn young people into degenerates and discriminate maybe not by law violation but by their discretion against loyal customers in this case of any age 31+! Fucking Assholes! ;D
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Rachel Ryan used to run the World Harness Handicapping Championships. A tournament for everyone including us older folks. That went in to the shitter when Derby Wars who was a sponsor lost the New York players. Derby Wars was running weekly feeder contests to get spots in numerous finals to win seats in to Rachel’s big tournament. Once they lost New York they lost a huge % of the players. They never offered out of state players hotel and air fare if they got in. She could have done a lot more to get more entries but I’m not on their payroll so I didn’t offer any suggestions. My point is that we had our own contest so I never complained about the 18-30 shit. Now that we don’t have anything I feel it’s wrong. I don’t even want to go there and compete. I bet from home now. It’s just the principle and this cunt with his rules. He lost me as a customer and I used to go to the old building 4-5 times a week. Weekends at the Pegasus when you had to wear a suit.
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Rachel Ryan used to run the World Harness Handicapping Championships. A tournament for everyone including us older folks. That went in to the shitter when Derby Wars who was a sponsor lost the New York players. Derby Wars was running weekly feeder contests to get spots in numerous finals to win seats in to Rachel’s big tournament. Once they lost New York they lost a huge % of the players. They never offered out of state players hotel and air fare if they got in. She could have done a lot more to get more entries but I’m not on their payroll so I didn’t offer any suggestions. My point is that we had our own contest so I never complained about the 18-30 shit. Now that we don’t have anything I feel it’s wrong. I don’t even want to go there and compete. I bet from home now. It’s just the principle and this cunt with his rules. He lost me as a customer and I used to go to the old building 4-5 times a week. Weekends at the Pegasus when you had to wear a suit.
Ok, so we're on the right track, 10-4, copy that thanks boss!
My last time at the Pegasus was around 2003, on a date, had Lobster Ravioli....it was eh ok...RR, she sounds like piece of work, Geff "Toto" Jural really knows how to recruit talent, and be the lowest bidder of none!
Let's handicap and make some money, if you're serious, I'll dm you my cell. Totos the loser, you went like 11 for 14 last Saturday, bro you were on FIRE! ;D
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Gural has one rule: My Way or the Highway!
There's other tracks you can bet at.
Sad
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every track should be running contests on a weekly basis for a end of month final
not doing so is lazy and just poor business
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every track should be running contests on a weekly basis for a end of month final
not doing so is lazy and just poor business
These are the truest words that I have seen on here in a long time! tmbz1 tmbz1
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I need to get a fake ID that says I am younger, never thought this problem would happen. ngc3
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I need to get a fake ID that says I am younger, never thought this problem would happen. ngc3
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 That was from me!
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 This was from Rachel Ryan who on orders from Geff Jural for the last 5 years to pump up the volume on the youth demographic there....their scholarship program produced no great BigM interest. She returned my call while I was reading your post and she went nuts, we booth did, laughed hysterically!
If anyone has questions, suggestions in addition to her phone number already in this thread she said I (or you) can email her too ANYTIME: RARYAN@playmeadowlands.com.
I suggested a partner contest.....to team up a kid and senior, youth and nostalgia handicapping contest (under and over 30)......she liked...she wrote it down for the next calender!
I explained, we're bat shit crazy, angry and bangers (all gamblers), virtually unsatisfiable, she gets it, she said she's one of us, she was betting before it was legal for her to do so....who hasn't?! ;D
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It is his track can do what ever he wants end of story stop crying.
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It is his track can do what ever he wants end of story stop crying.
DONT YOU LOVE WHEN THE JEFFREY ASS KISSING CLUB GETS TOGETHER FOR AN ASS PATTING CONTEST ngc3 ngc3
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It is his track can do what ever he wants end of story stop crying.
GSAC you fucking ass kissing degenerate.
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GSAC you fucking ass kissing degenerate.
ngc3 tmbz1 ngc3
He does, Geff's peen, he's very good, 5 minutes of that, and 23h55m here banging on his defense.
I dedicate this song for you Mr. Jural (and dumbfowl) ;D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXoiRi6RP_k
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It is his track can do what ever he wants end of story stop crying.
The racing operation there is a complete failure that relies on state welfare/subsidies to survive.
As soon as you accept that welfare, you no longer can do whatever you want. That would include discriminating by age.
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It makes sense; the sport needs youth and this should appeal to novice handicappers.
If they let everyone in, cappers like Dave Little would eat them alive (although he would be excluded as a Meadowlands employee).
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Jeff Gural on Joe Faraldo and drug trainers:
“I assume most of you will side with Faraldo so don't blame me if something bad happens. I tried to get the word out. Time will tell which of us is right but when you consider that none of my trainers use drugs, Joe's trainer is currently serving a three-year jail sentence and the other leading trainer at Yonkers is also in jail I hope you will change your mind. I have personally spent over $1 million to clean the game up, I have no drug trainers at any of my tracks and I am not done. I will not rest until the drugs are totally eliminated and I honestly think the status quo doesn't work.”
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It makes sense; the sport needs youth and this should appeal to novice handicappers.
If they let everyone in, cappers like Dave Little would eat them alive (although he would be excluded as a Meadowlands employee).
I hope you are being sarcastic and not an idiot on post #5.
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Jeff runs three tracks and two farms only thing you guys run is your big mouth off,
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Jeff runs three tracks and two farms only thing you guys run is your big mouth off,
Cmon, lets be real. Did you just call Vernon a track and something that he "runs". Getting gov't breaks, on top of racino cash, does not constitute "running" a track. Vernon has been a massive failure from day one and repeatedly asking the state of New York to step in, is actually pretty sad, for what some may consider to be an astute businessman, who has a racino in place.
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Cmon, lets be real. Did you just call Vernon a track and something that he "runs". Getting gov't breaks, on top of racino cash, does not constitute "running" a track. Vernon has been a massive failure from day one and repeatedly asking the state of New York to step in, is actually pretty sad, for what some may consider to be an astute businessman, who has a racino in place.
Gov breaks and racino cash are one in the same. He’s asking for a larger cut of the racino cash.