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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on July 07, 2023, 07:06:45 PM
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Joe Anderson
Erv
Farrington
Nelson Willis
Tex moats
Mark fransen
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Who’s your pic
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Victor Pegues 43xc.2
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By far Homer Hochstetler and Doug Ackerman
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By far Homer Hochstetler and Doug Ackerman
Stfu
Pigeon brain
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It would be scary to think how many wins Joe would have if he was still going
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Joe Anderson tmbz1 tmbz1
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Stfu
Pigeon brain
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Lucy Shirley or H Tim Bishop - best trainer(s)
Best driver on front end - John "Rocket" Reese
Best hands driver - Dave Fagan
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Brian Pelling
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1- Robin Schadt
2- Mike Schulfer
3- Dennis Brighteell
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Dan Nants
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al fleischer
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al fleischer
Greenwood saw him buck nekkid on a hay bale spanking his monkey 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj with 1 of the Mexican grooms
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It would be scary to think how many wins Joe would have had if he was still going
It would be scary to think how many different positives in how many different states Joe would have had if he was still going.
It would be scary to think how many more times his wife, Ryan, or more 2nd trainers would have to beard for him.
So why isn't he still going?
IMHO
The Kentucky vet retired. (I can't remember his name)
The owner went to jail.
Testing got better and testing for more things.
If you have a lot of time on your hands, go to Pathway and read his pages of positives.
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Little Joe
A friend of mine now deseased was a part time trainer.
He was racing his only horse at Maywood.
Busse took off so my freind put Little Joe up.
The horse won.
My friend is all excited and runs down to the winners circle.
Joe throws the lines at him and says "Don't ever put me up again".
Nice guy right?
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al fleischer
I met him at OAKBROOK OTB.
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I met him at OAKBROOK OTB.
Did you get his autograph?
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Brian Pelling
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Al Fleischer and Mark Uryicki were the best gay trainers in Chicago history.
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Al Fleischer and Mark Uryicki were the best gay trainers in Chicago history.
I vote for Terry Towne.
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Did you get his autograph?
I will next time I seen him.
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Brian Pelling
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Prince Sharvid N
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I easily narrowed my choice down to four for best IL. trainer.
In no particular order the four IL. trainers that each won the national driving championship.
Each winning many races with the horses they trained.
Bob Farrington I believe bought most of his horses as ready made horses.
The other three owned their own farm, stallions, mares, and training track.
My reasoning is simple. If you can win national fame, mostly driving horses you train, then you must be one hell of a good trainer.
I think there has only been four with IL. connections. Correct me if I am wrong.
I give Walter Paisley honorable mention. I think he finished second nationally one year. At the time he trained a stable.
Farrington and what other three top my list?
I am not counting Morgan or Tetrick.
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Brian Pelling
Brian Pelling and Dennis Nardoni were suspended for five years ''through 1992'' Thursday by stewards at Maywood Park for allegedly manipulating the 10th-race trifecta at the harness track on Nov. 6.
Pelling was the driver, trainer and owns horses trained and driven by Pelling but didn`t have a contestant in the $5,000 conditioned pace for non-winners of $2,500 in their last six starts.
Thorn Eagle (10-to-1), Ultra Osborne (2-to-1 second choice) and Midnight Eagle (35-to-1), a 7-6-1 combination, paid $1,492.20 for a $3 bet on the trifecta. Midnight Eagle moved from fourth to third on the disqualification of Leah Christina, a 31-to-1 longshot demoted to sixth for interfering with several horses in the stretch.
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Fox Valley Bullet, the 9-to-5 favorite, finished eighth, a length behind Pelling`s horse, who stayed in front of him for about three quarters of a mile.
State stewards Tim Schmitz and Bob Milburn and association steward Bill Baier found Pelling guilty of violating seven Illinois racing rules-1, an unsatisfactory drive; 2, betting on starters; 3, fraudulent proposals; 4, acts injurious to racing; 5, conspiracy to violate rules; 6, association with undesirables; 7, solicitation of wagers.
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Nardoni was suspended for four offenses-1, fraudulent proposals; 2, acts injurious to racing; 3, conspiracy to violate rules; 4, failure to observe the new rules regarding approaching the security barn without authorization.
Witnesses told investigators Pelling and Nardoni held a conversation in the unauthorized area before the race
''I`d like to be more specific, but I just can`t right now,'' said Schmitz when asked to detail the circumstances of the race and the subsequent investigation that led to the suspensions. ''We can`t turn our cards over right now.''
Unsatisfactory driving means not attempting to win a race. The betting on starters rule pertains to wagering on contestants other than one`s own horse to win a race. Fraudulent proposals, acts injurious to racing and conspiracy to violate rules are offenses dealing with conspiring to fix a race and offering bribes to others involved.
here's your hero/great trainer
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HOW ABOUT THE GUYS FROM THE 70'S-80'S? GUYS LIKE JIM DENNIS AND JERRY GRAHAM AND DWAYNE PLETCHER? THOSE GUYS WERE THE REAL DEAL. SO WAS FARRINGTON.
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HONORABLE MENTION TO DAN SHETLER AND AUBREY PETTY
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HONORABLE MENTION TO DAN SHETLER AND AUBREY PETTY
The first time I was stabled at Washington Park I was next to Aubrey Petty. A real gentleman. He only had 3 or 4 horses.
Holly cow that was 55 years ago.
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Cleostar.
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Rick Schroeder
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Don't forget Billy Haughton and Joe O'Brien!! I will never forget going to see Handle With Care the night before the American National at SPK!! She won 24 in a row to start her career! She had a Huge Black guy that was packing!! He said to "Look but don't touch!" And Fresh Yankee from the O'Brien barn!! They paid $900 for her and she was an all time best mare!!
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I easily narrowed my choice down to four for best IL. trainer.
In no particular order the four IL. trainers that each won the national driving championship.
Each winning many races with the horses they trained.
Bob Farrington I believe bought most of his horses as ready made horses.
The other three owned their own farm, stallions, mares, and training track.
My reasoning is simple. If you can win national fame, mostly driving horses you train, then you must be one hell of a good trainer.
I think there has only been four with IL. connections. Correct me if I am wrong.
I give Walter Paisley honorable mention. I think he finished second nationally one year. At the time he trained a stable.
Farrington and what other three top my list?
I am not counting Morgan or Tetrick.
Daryl Busse, Don Busse, Del Insko, and Bob Farrington for the reasons above.
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Don't forget Billy Haughton and Joe O'Brien!! I will never forget going to see Handle With Care the night before the American National at SPK!! She won 24 in a row to start her career! She had a Huge Black guy that was packing!! He said to "Look but don't touch!" And Fresh Yankee from the O'Brien barn!! They paid $900 for her and she was an all time best mare!!
THEY REALLY WERENT MAINSTAYS IN CHICAGO.
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By far Homer Hochstetler and Doug Ackerman
Looks like Frank's hero is keeping it classy! tmbz1
HOCHSTETLER, HOMER J PINEHURST, NC YOB 1952
HoP on 6/21/2023 FINED: $500
OFFENSIVE/PROFANE LANGUAGE
71 IAC 5-1-22(a),(b) 71 IAC 7-5-1(4) Licensee Homer Hochstetler attempted to enter the
barn area of Hoosier Park on 6/21/2023. When stopped at the stable gate and asked to
show his Indiana Horse Racing Commission license he became argumentative with
Hoosier Park security. When the security supervisor intervened, Mr. Hochstetler became
agitated and yelled "f*ck you" before leaving the area to retrieve his badge. Upon returning
to the stable gate with his badge, Mr. Hochstetler asked for the "cigar bastard." For this
violation Mr. Hochstetler is fined $500.00 which is due within seven days of this ruling. Mr.
Hochstetler waived is right to a hearing and agreed to the penalty.
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Looks like Frank's hero is keeping it classy! tmbz1
HOCHSTETLER, HOMER J PINEHURST, NC YOB 1952
HoP on 6/21/2023 FINED: $500
OFFENSIVE/PROFANE LANGUAGE
71 IAC 5-1-22(a),(b) 71 IAC 7-5-1(4) Licensee Homer Hochstetler attempted to enter the
barn area of Hoosier Park on 6/21/2023. When stopped at the stable gate and asked to
show his Indiana Horse Racing Commission license he became argumentative with
Hoosier Park security. When the security supervisor intervened, Mr. Hochstetler became
agitated and yelled "f*ck you" before leaving the area to retrieve his badge. Upon returning
to the stable gate with his badge, Mr. Hochstetler asked for the "cigar bastard." For this
violation Mr. Hochstetler is fined $500.00 which is due within seven days of this ruling. Mr.
Hochstetler waived is right to a hearing and agreed to the penalty.
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Hoosierpark security should know all the trainers by face
No matter good or bad trainers
Imvfho security pushed the envelope too hard
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Connel Willis and Jerry Graham were very sharp duo. Still, only one Joe Anderson
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How come nobody mentioned Seldon Ledford? Asking for a friend!!
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How come nobody mentioned Seldon Ledford? Asking for a friend!!
good one! Where's Eric, btw?
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Hoosierpark security should know all the trainers by face
No matter good or bad trainers
Imvfho security pushed the envelope too hard
I agree, but if the initial guy was new and Homer was being an asshole, he got what he deserved.
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I agree, but if the initial guy was new and Homer was being an asshole, he got what he deserved.
Lets look at it from the security guards side.
They maybe under rules, If you let anyone in with out them showing a license. YOU ARE FIRED!
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Hoosier hires $15 morons off the street for security. Their job is to not let anyone enter the backstretch who doesn’t belong or have a license. If they see you and talk to you and know who you are there’s no reason to want to see your license. It’s ridiculous. It’s over the top just to aggravate the horseman so they do something like homer did so they can file a report and when the time comes to decouple from the casino they can pull out all these reports and say, see what we have to deal with? These horseman are nothing but a big expense and a bother get rid of the horseman. Close the barn area let us just operate a casino. Just like they did at pompano.
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HOW ABOUT THE GUYS FROM THE 70'S-80'S? GUYS LIKE JIM DENNIS AND JERRY GRAHAM AND DWAYNE PLETCHER? THOSE GUYS WERE THE REAL DEAL. SO WAS FARRINGTON.
I am an old man and easily confused.
On the Springfield thread you posted that the whole Graham family has a bad name of cheating IL.harness racing.
Now you are saying Jerry is the real deal.
Please explain.
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I am an old man and easily confused.
On the Springfield thread you posted that the whole Graham family has a bad name of cheating IL.harness racing.
Now you are saying Jerry is the real deal.
Please explain.
HE WAS A GOOD TRAINER I THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT I'M SURE THE DRUGS HELPED OUT A LOT BUT I DONT KMOW. ITS LIKE ERV MILLER TODAY, HES A GOOD TRAINER OF COURSE BUT HE JUICES THEM UP
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HE WAS A GOOD TRAINER I THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT I'M SURE THE DRUGS HELPED OUT A LOT BUT I DONT KMOW. ITS LIKE ERV MILLER TODAY, HES A GOOD TRAINER OF COURSE BUT HE JUICES THEM UP
Thank You
IMHO
You are 100% correct!
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Greenwood saw him buck nekkid on a hay bale spanking his monkey 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj with 1 of the Mexican grooms
You sure your not deflecting your own situation onto another? Sounds like this may have been you?
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Joe Anderson
Brian Pelling
Nelson Willis
All of them VERY HEAVY WITH THE NEEDLE
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James Seggerman, A Walter Paisley, Pal.
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Greenwood saw him buck nekkid on a hay bale spanking his monkey 11.wj 11.wj 11.wj with 1 of the Mexican grooms
And yet you want to call me a troll with this nonsensical bull shit you spew. Whack off Emoji's and all.
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good one! Where's Eric, btw?
Really?