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Title: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Calhoun on July 13, 2023, 09:01:17 AM
With one partner, we own a couple shares ( ;D) of this 2 yo trotter.

First race last week Mohawk, he broke 50 yards before the start. 

I was there and the experience was a bit underwhelming.

My partner would like to take the whole piece.  We're talking not much money.

Here's his 2nd race from a couple days ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlvICWnNRD0

Stretch head on at 2:45.

My dear plop horsemen:  How's he look?  Should I stay or should I go?

TIA
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Harness racer on July 13, 2023, 09:08:35 AM
Underwhelming?  Wasn't he 2nd at 14-1?  If it's not much money why sell?  Looks pretty good to me.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Calhoun on July 13, 2023, 09:10:50 AM
Underwhelming?  Wasn't he 2nd at 14-1?  If it's not much money why sell?  Looks pretty good to me.
First start was.  Broke before start. Thx
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 13, 2023, 09:41:52 AM
I think you give it a couple weeks, Always able to improve at this age.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Emperor Dapple on July 13, 2023, 11:33:05 AM
From personal experiences anytime i was offered $$ that returned my investment or a small profit and i said no, i was always sorry afterwards..
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Harness racer on July 13, 2023, 11:57:23 AM
From personal experiences anytime i was offered $$ that returned my investment or a small profit and i said no, i was always sorry afterwards..

You and me both!
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Meadow Ford on July 13, 2023, 12:14:20 PM
You will never go broke taking a profit!
I have sold many many horses at their prime and at a profit. None did I ever regret.
After five undefeated starts I sold a IL. bred two year old. He was the national seasons leader at the time.
The next time I was at the track a top IL. trainer said to me "Boy you sure gave that one away".
The colt never made his purchase price back.
IMHO
If this is your hobby, then don't sell.
If it is your business, then sell.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Calhoun on July 13, 2023, 12:18:34 PM
TY all.

How does he look to the eye?  That's what I'm hoping for. feedback on.  Maybe it doesn't matter but I can't tell trash from treasure .
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Mailbox Money on July 13, 2023, 12:22:41 PM
What is important with a horse like him is using the same driver every start. He gets a bit rapid gaited up front but smooths out nicely once he settles down. He will make money early because he can leave . It depends what kind of money you have invested. I would keep him. tmbz1
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 13, 2023, 12:38:12 PM
I am sure you heard this FWIW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaGAPslQCxU

I watched his replay and IMO, I would not sell for double or triple


Starts at 8.23 mark.

I see he's a 3/4 brother to What The Hill.

Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Open bridle on July 13, 2023, 12:50:52 PM
If you need the money to live on sell, if you don't keep him and have some fun.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: firhill on July 13, 2023, 02:07:34 PM
If your 100% profit is $10,000 , then I'd sell.
If it's 50 bucks, I'd stay.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: jupiter on July 13, 2023, 02:09:38 PM
 Cash (profit) doesn't go lame, You can always say ya owned a piece of him if he amounts to anything.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Yonkers1A on July 13, 2023, 02:11:33 PM
sell its a dead game
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on July 13, 2023, 02:37:49 PM
Hold onto the steed and take it in the ASS like Lucpark. He always says ' Its a Hobby". "It's Only my dad's $$$$
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: brownmoose13 on July 13, 2023, 03:52:16 PM
TY all.

How does he look to the eye?  That's what I'm hoping for. feedback on.  Maybe it doesn't matter but I can't tell trash from treasure .

Treasure..Ready for Landing
Trash..Anthony MacDonald
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Emperor Dapple on July 13, 2023, 03:56:39 PM
Here's some great advice from a successful horseman who bought and sold many..
" It is better to sell and repent, than to the keep and repent."
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Harness racer on July 13, 2023, 04:29:54 PM
Here's some great advice from a successful horseman who bought and sold many..
" It is better to sell and repent, than to the keep and repent."

So True!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Lance on July 13, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Hold onto the steed and take it in the ASS like Lucpark. He always says ' Its a Hobby". "It's Only my dad's $$$$

I’d like to own a horse like that!!
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: freshlasix on July 13, 2023, 05:52:36 PM
                         





                                     If you are selling,  I will buy your share!
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 13, 2023, 05:56:32 PM
From personal experiences anytime i was offered $$ that returned my investment or a small profit and i said no, i was always sorry afterwards..
You and me three. Anytime you have a profit- take it and run. There will always be another horse coming along. Way too risky.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: JOHN FRANK on July 13, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
For CHRIST'S sake. Hoon owns a $100.00 in the fuckin pony. He gets updates on trainin,a WINNERS circle picture if the horse wins (and he has to pay for that), and like he say's,if he at track and pony should win,he gets to go into WINNERS CIRCLE. LA DE DA.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 13, 2023, 06:48:29 PM
I’d like to own a horse like that!!

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 which part the steed? Or taking it in the ass?
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 13, 2023, 07:25:32 PM
On that video he says Sylvain Fillion suggested he turn him out for a bit, He's got a lot of growing and maturing to do which will only serve him well.  He should win a few races now but turning him out and letting him grow will only serve him well IMO. AMAC had told Fillion that he was almost certain to break stride a few minutes before they raced, and he teased AMAC and said I thought he was going to break. Apparently, he was running all over the place warming up and acting like a goof. Said he took the snake cord off and he was perfect trailing the leader and that is what impressed him was that he relaxes on a helmet.

Like i said, I wouldn't sell him for triple or double. He's going to be good, and I am sure you will get more enjoyment for the minimal investment than watching him win races and still wishing you had him.  To me it's like gambling, be prepared to lose and anything is a bonus.


Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Jazzman on July 13, 2023, 08:51:03 PM
stay looks like a horse with a lot of upside big good looking and has a great gait
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 13, 2023, 10:05:32 PM
Give.me the quick profit, especially if it’s double my money. Very hard to do that in today’s game. They all look good early. If you take the cash you can still enjoy watching and rooting for him and it’s an extra bonus because your partner I’m sure is a friend and you want to see him/her do well. It’s win-win in my opinion regardless of the outcome. Give me the sure money.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 13, 2023, 10:42:47 PM
Cash (profit) doesn't go lame, You can always say ya owned a piece of him if he amounts to anything.

Hey Boys and Girls Greg P.'s in the house.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Brown jug on July 13, 2023, 10:56:57 PM
ok  so lets get this straight

for some reason filion took a keen interest in this particular horse and decided to give amac some unsolicited advice... ok
and  for some reason amac who typically wants the 2 yr old wired and ready to go now decides to turn horse out and bring back at three just because he could be good... ok

hmm
guess time will tell
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: PineHurstPacer on July 18, 2023, 06:16:56 AM
ok  so lets get this straight

for some reason filion took a keen interest in this particular horse and decided to give amac some unsolicited advice... ok
and  for some reason amac who typically wants the 2 yr old wired and ready to go now decides to turn horse out and bring back at three just because he could be good... ok

hmm
guess time will tell

He can't go with Jersey breds at this time Anthony says. 
If he races, he's going to be in condition races.  Not something you see a 2 year old do for an extended time.

I can see both sides of the coin

--owners have been paying bills and he's in racing condition and sound

--on the other side, He truly believes he can mature and be a major player as a 3 year, doesn't want him to get sore then turn him out. 

Calhoun has stake in the colt.  Maybe he would give us his feedback
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Parked on July 18, 2023, 07:44:55 AM
All depends on your financial situation.  I had a decent 2 year old, raced him easy and turned him out.  Came back great, after 3 races I was offered what would have been a big , big profit as he was a $12,000 yearling  . That was a long time ago. I asked my accountant for advice.   I still remember his advice.   
“You like to race horses, you might as well race a good one”.   He went on and made over $300,000.     
On the other side , I had a 3 year old that had made $75,000 and sold him for $50,000 at the end of his stake races as my trainer suggested.  He broke a bone at 7 only after putting over $900,000 on his card. 
When you sell a horse hope he goes on. The buyer will be back.   
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Calhoun on July 18, 2023, 11:01:44 AM
The $$ involved isn't much. He's been turned out.  I sold for enough profit to buy a hot dog and beer.  I still have a piece of a Pletcher 3 yo Mount Up who broke his maiden at belmont a month ago.  Hopefully he runs back soon.  That's enough for now.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 18, 2023, 11:58:34 AM
The $$ involved isn't much. He's been turned out.  I sold for enough profit to buy a hot dog and beer.  I still have a piece of a Pletcher 3 yo Mount Up who broke his maiden at belmont a month ago.  Hopefully he runs back soon.  That's enough for now.

Money better spent.
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 18, 2023, 01:51:00 PM
SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL
Title: Re: Ready For Landing --- Should I Sell My Piece at a 100% Profit?
Post by: Generation XYZ on August 14, 2023, 03:06:45 PM
For CHRIST'S sake. Hoon owns a $100.00 in the fuckin pony. He gets updates on trainin,a WINNERS circle picture if the horse wins (and he has to pay for that), and like he say's,if he at track and pony should win,he gets to go into WINNERS CIRCLE. LA DE DA.

Blah Blah Blah Blah....All nonsense from the ranks of Johnny Franks and beans. Go take a spelling call or read "Hooked on Phonics". Quit trying to speak the King's English my dear pheasant. John Frank just pulled my Crank.
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