HORSEPLOP.COM
General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: AlsoEligible on July 15, 2023, 07:27:15 PM
-
What horse and what race?
-
2nd Race
-
Does anyone have the full story on this?
-
Burke horse. Apparently a heart attack
-
To much gas n go
-
Ronnie wouldn’t gas a horse. He is so much better at training a horse than anyone else in the world. Don’t need no gas. Lmaof
-
Burke horse. Apparently a heart attack
Die on track or in the paddock?
-
He was a $100,000 yearling purchase making his second parimutuel start. He had already trotted 1:54.4 in his first parimutuel start and had finished first in both of his qualifiers.
Thanks for the info. Not good to hear, this happened, but it does happen. Wonder if he was gassed up. But can happen whether gassed or not.
-
Ronnie is as sharp as they come huh? He’s batting under .190 at Hoosier with a million worth of horses and is NEVER here and has this heavy smoker AR training everything and this guy is lost. How sharpe is he? He better get to Hoosier and stop worrying about Emily’s comments so much cuz she’s right.
-
Ronnie is as sharp as they come huh? He’s batting under .190 at Hoosier with a million worth of horses and is NEVER here and has this heavy smoker AR training everything and this guy is lost. How sharpe is he? He better get to Hoosier and stop worrying about Emily’s comments so much cuz she’s right.
tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
-
I am not sure if anyone was watching, this horse was *very* obviously lame in warmup. I actually thought (stupidly) the lag in getting to the gate was review of this horse and a late scratch, instead of the gambling lag. He tried to pull himself up upon making the lead and got laced for it. Wonder where the track vet was for that one. I understand lame doesn't equal heart attack but the horse was clearly not right.
Unbelievably poor show of horsemanship top to bottom.
-
Dont worry.
Same day PETA was busy in Calgary at the Stampede as officials were cleaning up an ill-fated chuckwagon race horse fatality
..got more press than BIG M for sure.
-
its terrible that life goes on at the USTA and Meadowlands and they keep silent and do not own up to what happened...shamef ul
-
So CLASSIC LANDING was the horse that died?
-
Unfortunate. Saw on local media yesterday more peta-sympathetic folks protesting at Saratoga Race Course than ever. Used to be one or 2; now a whole gaggle. Times they are a changin.
-
Unfortunate. Saw on local media yesterday more peta-sympathetic folks protesting at Saratoga Race Course than ever. Used to be one or 2; now a whole gaggle. Times they are a changin.
Well. Perhaps people shouldn't put unfit horses on the track. PETA is, IMO, insane. However..we do not need to give them an excuse. You can't protest something that isn't an actual problem. Well..you can, but you probably (hopefully) won't get far.
If anyone saw that horse warm up and thought he should go to the gate, you are blind, or a crook who does not belong in racing.
-
Well. Perhaps people shouldn't put unfit horses on the track. PETA is, IMO, insane. However..we do not need to give them an excuse. You can't protest something that isn't an actual problem. Well..you can, but you probably (hopefully) won't get far.
If anyone saw that horse warm up and thought he should go to the gate, you are blind, or a crook who does not belong in racing.
Yet owners flock to to Burke because of his "talent". ngc3 Sounds like an owner issue that needs addressed along with the trainer.
-
I wasnt aware a horse had died and wasnt able to watch the race live. I will today watch the replay to see myself. Why wouldnt the vet or connections step in prerace if the horse was clearly not right. Very sad and odd.
On peta, i wasnt commenting on whether their concerns are well placed at times, just pointing out that i found their growing support worthy of remarking. Of course one cant read the transcript description of the mistreatment of horses in the allard/grasso/navarro criminal cases and not be deeply disturbed by it. The prosecuter post trial claimed allard maintained a small pharmacy of drugs.
Ill address the elephant in the rm; is the implication that prerace action and dearth of media coverage here is due to obviously influential connections?
-
It doesn't matter if the horse was found to have a needle hanging from his neck when they got to him,the USTA would proclaim that he landed on it when he fell! Any investigation would be equivalent to the Vatican investigating the Pope! Time has proven that anything that happens in that outfit is dismissed by blaming an employee! What other industry will allow a member to decide when it's convenient to serve a
suspension??? 11.wp 11.wp
-
Never saw the horse go down into the turn after the race. He was clearly laboring and fighting to stay upright.
-
It doesn't matter if the horse was found to have a needle hanging from his neck when they got to him,the USTA would proclaim that he landed on it when he fell! Any investigation would be equivalent to the Vatican investigating the Pope! Time has proven that anything that happens in that outfit is dismissed by blaming an employee! What other industry will allow a member to decide when it's convenient to serve a
suspension??? 11.wp 11.wp
I guess maybe Mr. Williams should be looked into for being the hypocritical President of the USTA, but then again, Burke is his biggest buyer at Harrisburg, and his relationships at Hangover Boot Farms have grown since boarding broodmares and standing stallions. How is it again, Williams who bought out all others from Hangover, and the Sales Company is able to simultaneously able to preside over the single legislative body for the sport? Does no one care?
-
One can't help but wonder if that came from the same bottle that Bythemissle reacted to prior to the C.C. final in Canada, necessitating a scratch along with a delay in his seaon! 11.wp
-
One can't help but wonder if that came from the same bottle that Bythemissle reacted to prior to the C.C. final in Canada, necessitating a scratch along with a delay in his seaon! 11.wp
I'd say the odds are even money! 11.wp
-
clearly was struggling at the half when he tried to clear to front
good thing yannick popped the plugs and gave him a few taps to keep him going and push him to the point of collapse
-
It doesn't matter if the horse was found to have a needle hanging from his neck when they got to him,the USTA would proclaim that he landed on it when he fell! Any investigation would be equivalent to the Vatican investigating the Pope! Time has proven that anything that happens in that outfit is dismissed by blaming an employee! What other industry will allow a member to decide when it's convenient to serve a
suspension??? 11.wp 11.wp
USTA has nothing to do with any suspensions or when they are served. That is all on the state racing commission Even if USTA suspended someone membership as soon as PA gives them a license the USTA has to acknowledge them. They are only a record keeping organization
-
USTA has nothing to do with any suspensions or when they are served. That is all on the state racing commission Even if USTA suspended someone membership as soon as PA gives them a license the USTA has to acknowledge them. They are only a record keeping organization
This what they say, but they still try and attempt to regulate
-
The only things they have ever been able to regulate is the breed regulations and approved sulky list. The do have a model rule book but each state can choose to adopt or deny any rule
-
Is anyone aware of anything that came out of this (perhaps a statement by Gural or anything)? I haven't seen anything but just curious, and assuming the answer is no.
-
yes