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Title: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Chips N Salsa on July 22, 2023, 03:10:07 PM
Forget about Fulton the rest of the year.  He's done.  Too many starts without a rest.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Cboyle on July 22, 2023, 03:20:39 PM
Forget about Fulton the rest of the year.  He's done.  Too many starts without a rest.
Buried worse than L A knight  73cv.2 YEAH!
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 22, 2023, 05:09:18 PM
Forget about Fulton the rest of the year.  He's done.  Too many starts without a rest.

Bad racing managment.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 22, 2023, 05:10:33 PM
Bullshit trainer - Linda sucks and does not belong in the HOF
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 22, 2023, 05:11:50 PM
Bullshit trainer - Linda sucks and does not belong in the HOF

They give a pass for having BC. Still a meritless reason, not built on skill or talent.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: wiseowl on July 22, 2023, 05:28:58 PM
Linda have done great over the years her record speaks loud but what have you jerks done ever.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 22, 2023, 05:35:56 PM
If Linda was a man her resume at time of induction would not get her into the HOF. There are several trainers (Brett Pelling)  not to mention drivers (Tony Morgan) with better resumes who are not in. Remember too, the year before she was inducted she and a NYSS trainer who I will not mention had 1 year suspensions hanging over their heads and they were gonna hang him and let her go until he threatened to sue. Result> They let them both go. I grew up with Linda at RR and YR and remember her all the way back to Buddy Regan days. Btw, it was Lachance who resuscitated her floundering career in more ways than one. Don't call me a jerk. I am not some casual observer at 60 and I know something about the game.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 22, 2023, 05:40:52 PM
Hell, Ray Schnittker has trained 2 Meadowlands Pace winners and an undefeated Hambletonian winner and has trained and developed at least 10 million dollar earning horses and he wont sniff the HOF
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 22, 2023, 05:42:34 PM
As far as first woman in HOF thats a joke too. Bea Farber and Jacqui Ingrassia for their driving feats should have been in years ago
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 22, 2023, 06:01:36 PM
If Linda was a man her resume at time of induction would not get her into the HOF. There are several trainers (Brett Pelling)  not to mention drivers (Tony Morgan) with better resumes who are not in. Remember too, the year before she was inducted she and a NYSS trainer who I will not mention had 1 year suspensions hanging over their heads and they were gonna hang him and let her go until he threatened to sue. Result> They let them both go. I grew up with Linda at RR and YR and remember her all the way back to Buddy Regan days. Btw, it was Lachance who resuscitated her floundering career in more ways than one. Don't call me a jerk. I am not some casual observer at 60 and I know something about the game.

Shes not my favorite person to hand a bottle of water to in a desert.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Brown jug on July 22, 2023, 07:26:38 PM
diversity of all kinds always rules nowadays !!!
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 22, 2023, 10:12:41 PM
Yeah and because of it "nowadays" suck
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: WillieGoldberg on July 22, 2023, 10:24:26 PM
This is ridiculous.  Toscano is a top 10 money-winner trainer of all-time.  She won a Hambo and trained numerous champions.  Of course she belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Superfecta on July 22, 2023, 11:44:19 PM
Linda have done great over the years her record speaks loud but what have you jerks done ever.

They have all passed grade 3 english.  11.wp
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Bernie Madoff on July 23, 2023, 06:12:54 AM
They have all passed grade 3 english.  11.wp





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Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Chips N Salsa on July 23, 2023, 06:58:23 PM
Fulton is not Linda's problem - It's the owner.  He like some other owners believe horses are machines and you can just go hard every week.  A top level 3yo has to be managed and given breaks.  This isn't the old days where you could get 20-25 starts out of a 3yo.  If you get 12-15 and maybe 18 tops your extremely lucky.  Sometimes you have to skip a big one to prep for another big one. 
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Chips N Salsa on July 23, 2023, 08:59:12 PM
That is the current thinking which is dead wrong.

Oh do tell please....
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Mailbox Money on July 23, 2023, 11:48:38 PM
I'm guessing that the horse will disappear for a short time and come back at towards the late part of the year and steal a big race. Only time will tell!
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Parked on July 24, 2023, 06:59:53 AM
I keep hearing a good horse and a cheap horse.  That is based on speed alone.
Ive had horses that could go in 56 that tried just as hard, or harder than the ones going in 52 And in a big barn the 57 horse got a lot less attention. 
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 24, 2023, 08:21:14 AM
I get your points and they make sense but I never based a good or cheap horse based on speed. My criteria was their ability to earn.
Earnings was the measuring stick. Ya know, rather win in 57 than lose in 53
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 24, 2023, 08:24:17 AM
"Classy" horses earn $$$
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: The Exporter on July 24, 2023, 08:57:53 AM
How much did you earn and who did you beat.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Kirbys Ace on July 24, 2023, 10:10:16 AM
Hell, Ray Schnittker has trained 2 Meadowlands Pace winners and an undefeated Hambletonian winner and has trained and developed at least 10 million dollar earning horses and he wont sniff the HOF

Not to mention one knock out or TKO at the Meadowlands paddock!

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Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Harness racer on July 24, 2023, 11:00:01 AM
Not to mention one knock out or TKO at the Meadowlands paddock!

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I saw that weirdo Yarock driving in another amateur driving club in NY.  Horse earned as much as SCM.  ZERO!!!   ngc3  ngc3  ngc3
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 24, 2023, 11:04:22 AM
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Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Parked on July 24, 2023, 11:42:58 AM
I get your points and they make sense but I never based a good or cheap horse based on speed. My criteria was their ability to earn.
Earnings was the measuring stick. Ya know, rather win in 57 than lose in 53

And that boils down to classification which is very difficult where the guy that puts races together (not to be confused with a race secretary) uses the track master rating system. 
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Fuguzzi on July 24, 2023, 12:19:57 PM
Agreed. Speed and track master will destroy what's left of our beloved sport from with in. As if we don't already have enuf external demons. Horses pacing in .50/last quarter 26 and change or better and not getting a check is ridiculous but this is where we have evolved.
Title: Re: Fulton is toast!
Post by: Calhoun on July 24, 2023, 12:53:34 PM
Linda have done great over the years her record speaks loud but what have you jerks done ever.
I owned a piece of a World Champ and a T-Bred Triple Crown winner.
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