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Title: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: LUCPARK on July 23, 2023, 11:11:35 AM
Almost two months of racing

Nobody has received a cent from Hawthorne in purse earnings

Nothin released how long can IHHA and IRB allow this

Mr Carey refuses to live up to his words and promises again



Makes everyone miss duke and Johnny Johnston  tmbz1

Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 23, 2023, 12:03:28 PM
Almost two months of racing

Nobody has received a cent from Hawthorne in purse earnings

Nothin released how long can IHHA and IRB allow this

Mr Carey refuses to live up to his words and promises again

RIGHT, and they say Balmoral is going to be reopened. PLEASE IL is a horseman's nightmare. Total Fuck Artists.



Makes everyone miss duke and Johnny Johnston  tmbz1

IL is all but collapsed. By gone criminal error of fleesing horseman that is still going on today.
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: hoosierboy on July 23, 2023, 01:02:45 PM
Unbelievable
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Ruffolo Buster on July 23, 2023, 01:37:50 PM
That's not true Napoleon.  The only money that hasn't been paid has been the money coming from the state for the Violet and Cardinal races.  Mr. Carey has no control over that money.  Also, what do you care?  You don't have any Illinois breds and Mr. Carey has barred you from racing in Illinois.  You're clearly an undesirable. Roger Welch, Melissa Essig, Erv Miller and all of your other ex-trainers that have thrown your horses out have all said the same thing. Instead of racing horses why don't you race greyhounds or play Bingo instead?
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 23, 2023, 01:40:10 PM
Ruffalo you sound like Frank. Do you own a piece of Ponda Jet?
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 23, 2023, 01:41:42 PM
That's not true Napoleon.  The only money that hasn't been paid has been the money coming from the state for the Violet and Cardinal races.  Mr. Carey has no control over that money.  Also, what do you care?  You don't have any Illinois breds and Mr. Carey has barred you from racing in Illinois.  You're clearly an undesirable. Roger Welch, Melissa Essig, Erv Miller and all of your other ex-trainers that have thrown your horses out have all said the same thing. Instead of racing horses why don't you race greyhounds or play Bingo instead?

Well explain this...Why haven't they still paid for the World Trotting Derby purses fro 2009? Seems like a pattern Muscle Hill wins the earnings credit but the owners never got the $$$
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: LUCPARK on July 23, 2023, 02:51:41 PM
That's not true Napoleon.  The only money that hasn't been paid has been the money coming from the state for the Violet and Cardinal races.  Mr. Carey has no control over that money.  Also, what do you care?  You don't have any Illinois breds and Mr. Carey has barred you from racing in Illinois.  You're clearly an undesirable. Roger Welch, Melissa Essig, Erv Miller and all of your other ex-trainers that have thrown your horses out have all said the same thing. Instead of racing horses why don't you race greyhounds or play Bingo instead?

Undesirable  ngc3

I got horses with all of them


Liar no money paid

And I told Carey he’s useless and incompetent TO HIS  FACE on super night last yr   

He then threw a fit in front of his  family who started laughing at him
 They knew I was right
Those are FACTS

He tried backing me down and lost FACT

Last words he screamed don’t come back don’t come back  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Fcking incompetent asshole ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

FUVK HIM AND FCK HIS DUMPY ASS RACE TRACK

Those are facts liar
TROLL


Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Balmoral buzz on July 23, 2023, 06:26:35 PM
I’m not trying to bust your balls lucPark but Marty Engle did say you are barred from Hawthorne. Not lying just telling you what he said. Don’t know or care if it’s true.
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: LUCPARK on July 23, 2023, 06:56:57 PM
I’m not trying to bust your balls lucPark but Marty Engle did say you are barred from Hawthorne. Not lying just telling you what he said. Don’t know or care if it’s true.

I know it’s the truth
But the reason for it cus I called out the incompetent track owner to his face
His feelings got hurt  on super night in front of the IHHA guys who were laughing at him

Meanwhile  IHHA and IRB are kissing careys  ass

I don’t have to  and spoke my  mind
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: harnessplop on July 23, 2023, 09:00:14 PM
And u guys want Balmoral to re open . Lol...
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Mailbox Money on July 23, 2023, 11:57:10 PM
Time to contact the whistle blower hotlines and report that Cary embezzled the funds! The feds will get to the bottom of this issue with a single audit. I would if I  had a dog in the fight!  11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Kirbys Ace on July 24, 2023, 03:43:12 PM
Almost two months of racing

Nobody has received a cent from Hawthorne in purse earnings

Nothin released how long can IHHA and IRB allow this

Mr Carey refuses to live up to his words and promises again



Makes everyone miss duke and Johnny Johnston  tmbz1

How can that be?

What about the horseman representatives?
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 24, 2023, 07:23:12 PM
Carey is an incompetent asshole with his hand in more of the criminalities that go on in IL
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Foxy Jacob on July 25, 2023, 01:07:35 PM
Almost two months of racing

Nobody has received a cent from Hawthorne in purse earnings

Nothin released how long can IHHA and IRB allow this

Mr Carey refuses to live up to his words and promises again



Makes everyone miss duke and Johnny Johnston  tmbz1
look at marty engle the president. he races horses in every other state and then maybe 1 or 2 in illinois. hosea even said he needs to resign. JF
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Jim Vermett on July 25, 2023, 01:24:54 PM
look at marty engle the president. he races horses in every other state and then maybe 1 or 2 in illinois. hosea even said he needs to resign. JF
up in the Lincoln room 1 time I heard Johnny tell Phil that Hosea should swing. Sounded racist to me. Was Johnny that big a racist?
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Richard_Finn on July 26, 2023, 10:12:03 AM
Almost two months of racing

Nobody has received a cent from Hawthorne in purse earnings

Nothin released how long can IHHA and IRB allow this

Mr Carey refuses to live up to his words and promises again



Makes everyone miss duke and Johnny Johnston  tmbz1



Umm I've gotten checks every week from the Springfield meet....Bro used to spit FACTS LEGIT, now he just spews non sense.

Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Foxy Jacob on July 26, 2023, 01:02:54 PM


Umm I've gotten checks every week from the Springfield meet....Bro used to spit FACTS LEGIT, now he just spews non sense.

Hey Rick, long time no hear? thanks for clearing the air with lucpark lies saying carey aint paying out when he knows he is cause cordelius wins races with all of ervs horses and lucpark knows for sure since erv trains for him. so its sour grapes just what i thought because carey barred lucpark from ever going back to haw. there you have it people carey is paying the horsemen
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: LUCPARK on July 26, 2023, 01:08:58 PM


Umm I've gotten checks every week from the Springfield meet....Bro used to spit FACTS LEGIT, now he just spews non sense.

stakes purses up till 10 days ago    havent been paid,,,

those are facts

Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Foxy Jacob on July 26, 2023, 01:28:02 PM
stakes purses up till 10 days ago    havent been paid,,,

those are facts
i think the state pays the stakes money not carey but i'm not positive but ricky finn would know cause he races there every week
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: LUCPARK on July 26, 2023, 01:43:14 PM
i think the state pays the stakes money not carey but i'm not positive but ricky finn would know cause he races there every week

at this point im blaming carey for everything

this nitwit personally killed harness racing in this state

incompetant jackass he is
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Foxy Jacob on July 26, 2023, 02:04:31 PM
at this point im blaming carey for everything

this nitwit personally killed harness racing in this state

incompetant jackass he is
i disagree. you and i both know who killed harness racing in illinois. it was the greedy johnson family and langley. it was probably before your time in the game lucpark but those guys were what killed chicago harness racing and its a shame. you didnt have horses back then but just ask some of the old timers who raced in chicago back then how those bastards killed harness racing in chicago. especially duke and johnny johnson who didnt have a clue how to run a racetrack.
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Stan durbread on July 26, 2023, 02:55:03 PM
It wasn’t the Carey’s or Johnstown’s that killed Illinois racing. It was McNulty and Reynolds that sold the horsemen out when the riverboats were trying to get in the state. And they also allowed recapture to happen.  A year later Reynolds had a nice new beautiful farm and was at HB and Lex buying top sired yearlings instead of the cheap Illinois breds he had always trained
Title: Re: Hawthorne refuses to pay purse winnings at Springfield and duquion
Post by: Generation XYZ on July 26, 2023, 08:32:49 PM
Illinois is dead. Shoot it and put it out of its misery.
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