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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Fuguzzi on July 27, 2023, 10:33:34 PM
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Do you have an all time favorite race or individual performance? Please do not list a race involving a horse you owned, trained, drove or even groomed.
For me it is the 1993 Little Brown Jug final - Life Sign's legendary performance overcoming the Robinson Gang of 3 gives me chills every time I watch it and I have seen way over 1000 times. I watch it 100 times a year
What's yours???
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And it denies Riyadh the Triple Crown with my all time favorite driver, Jim Morrill, jr
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And it denies Riyadh the Triple Crown with my all time favorite driver, Jim Morrill, jr
Mine was probably watching Art Official beating SBS. Of course Niatross was a great horse to watch.
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Mine was probably watching Art Official beating SBS. Of course Niatross was a great horse to watch.
I agree...getting to 3/4 in 1:19.1 (15 years ago), being collared by SBS and then coming back... great effort. 2008 Meadowlands Pace in 1:47
Pierce was fearless!
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I agree...getting to 3/4 in 1:19.1 (15 years ago), being collared by SBS and then coming back... great effort. 2008 Meadowlands Pace in 1:47
Pierce was fearless!
Art Official ended up as an aged gelding racing 4,000 claimers at Monticello 2012 2013 same trainer/owner look it up
over 80 percent of his lifetime earnings came via that race
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when my 12 claimer came from 13 back at the top of the stretch to win going away @Woodbine
"shot out of a cannon" the announcer said
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Good for you I asked people to talk about races you enjoyed solely as a fan thus not involving one of your own horses.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsCJv-uZL7s
this one.... end of story..........mi c drop............f eaturing the call of Frank Salive
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The 1st Monticello OTB Classic won by the great Silk Stockings in 157.3. Driven by Preston Burris Jr. Track was packed. A very special day at "The Mighty M"!
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1989 Little Brown Jug. I was on my honeymoon. Fake Left out-dueled the vaunted Western Hanover!
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The 1st Monticello OTB Classic won by the great Silk Stockings in 157.3. Driven by Preston Burris Jr. Track was packed. A very special day at "The Mighty M"!
I was there You are right. I was a young boy of 11 but remember it well. My favorite Monti driver was Jimmy Allen in those days. Read somewhere that was the first harness race ever for 250,000 in the state of NY At Monti of all places
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I was 18 then. My favorite driver was James Grundy!
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1989 Little Brown Jug. I was on my honeymoon. Fake Left out-dueled the vaunted Western Hanover!
Western Hanover was 1992 not 1989
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Artsplace 151.1 at PPK as a two yr old with old gerald bike. Was all age track record and the record for a 2yr on 5/8 that stood for 20+ yrs.
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I think he beat Die Laughing with Richie S that night
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Art Official ended up as an aged gelding racing 4,000 claimers at Monticello 2012 2013 same trainer/owner look it up
over 80 percent of his lifetime earnings came via that race
Sorry dude but Art Official was a stud (not very successful) not a gelding whose last race was in 2009 against the likes of Mr Big and Shadow Play. He also earned over 2 million so most of it wasn't in that one race
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Do you have an all time favorite race or individual performance?
No
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Sorry dude but Art Official was a stud (not very successful) not a gelding whose last race was in 2009 against the likes of Mr Big and Shadow Play. He also earned over 2 million so most of it wasn't in that one race
I beat Art Official 2 times with a 4k claimer at Monticello late 2012. I have the programs. I would prefer not to identify my horse. But it happened. He had been gelded and was racing at 7
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Yes, he had 1.8 miilion earned by November 2012 I remember people questioning and criticizing the owner of such a horse for racing him at that level and not just retiring him to a life that he so well earned.
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WESTBURY, L.I., July 30, 1977—Kash Minbar, a moody 5‐year‐old trotter bred in New York, went the fastest mile and a half in the history of harness racing at Roosevelt Raceway tonight.
This son of Egyptian Canor broke stride in last week's Roosevelt International as one of the American representatives but tonight was timed in 3:01 3/5 as he won the $50,000 Challenge Cup Trot by 2 3/4 lengths. The clocking was the fastest for a trotter or a pacer at the distance.
Kash Minbars time erased Dream of Glory's previous world trotting standard of 3:05 2/5, set July 17, 1976, at Roosevelt in the Challenge Cup. The fastest time by a pacer for 12 furlongs is 3:01 4/5, by Irving Liverman's Handle With Care at Yonkers Raceway last year.
Delfo, who won last week's $200,000 International at 10‐1 odds for Italy, finished second, 5 1/2 lengths ahead of France's Bellino II in the field of eight. The 8‐5 choice, Keystone Pioneer, also representing the United States, was fourth, a neck away from Bellino. Dick DeSantis handled Keystone Pioneer for Silly Naughton, who was driving at Vernon Downs.
Earl Cruise, 24‐year‐old son of one of harness racing's top horsemen, Jimmy Cruise, and one of the winner's owners, drove Kash Minbar to his record triumph.
The winner returned $11 for $2 to win as the fourth choice.
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I beat Art Official 2 times with a 4k claimer at Monticello late 2012. I have the programs. I would prefer not to identify my horse. But it happened. He had been gelded and was racing at 7
I wasn't there so I can't argue with your facts what I can say is that the Xpress bet replay platform does not show any races for him past the Red Mile one in 2009.
As for when he was gelded I can show you names of some of his offspring that were born as late as 2019. So either there was frozen semen kept for many years or we live in some kind of weird universe where you can do two things at the same time.
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WESTBURY, L.I., July 30, 1977—Kash Minbar, a moody 5‐year‐old trotter bred in New York, went the fastest mile and a half in the history of harness racing at Roosevelt Raceway tonight.
This son of Egyptian Canor broke stride in last week's Roosevelt International as one of the American representatives but tonight was timed in 3:01 3/5 as he won the $50,000 Challenge Cup Trot by 2 3/4 lengths. The clocking was the fastest for a trotter or a pacer at the distance.
Kash Minbars time erased Dream of Glory's previous world trotting standard of 3:05 2/5, set July 17, 1976, at Roosevelt in the Challenge Cup. The fastest time by a pacer for 12 furlongs is 3:01 4/5, by Irving Liverman's Handle With Care at Yonkers Raceway last year.
Delfo, who won last week's $200,000 International at 10‐1 odds for Italy, finished second, 5 1/2 lengths ahead of France's Bellino II in the field of eight. The 8‐5 choice, Keystone Pioneer, also representing the United States, was fourth, a neck away from Bellino. Dick DeSantis handled Keystone Pioneer for Silly Naughton, who was driving at Vernon Downs.
Earl Cruise, 24‐year‐old son of one of harness racing's top horsemen, Jimmy Cruise, and one of the winner's owners, drove Kash Minbar to his record triumph.
The winner returned $11 for $2 to win as the fourth choice.
Great tidbit My Mother loved Kash Minbar I can picture this race in my mind like it was yesterday.
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first time i really enjoyed harness race
was being rewarded for playing show pool.
'89 canadian pacing derby greenwood toronto
overbet show pool for heavyhitter Matts Scooter...who ended tight fourth giving big show payoffs for others including winner CAMTASTIC Tommy Harmer and runner ups TAKE A LOOK and RUNNYMEDE LOBELL.
dont have payoffs here,,but overly generous show payouts because of Matts show miss.
underrated John Krake w the call
https://youtu.be/b76HDJjYbys
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I beat Art Official 2 times with a 4k claimer at Monticello late 2012. I have the programs. I would prefer not to identify my horse. But it happened. He had been gelded and was racing at 7
According to the USTA. Art Offical last raced 11/14/09 at Balmoral
And o don’t ever remember seeing Joe Seekman racing at Monticello
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My apologies to all. After an exhaustive search I found programs from 11 years ago at Monti and I am embarrassed to say that I was terribly wrong and sounded like a fool. The horse I was referring to that my 4k claimer beat regularly was NOT Art Official, it WAS Art Afficianado.
I did have the age and gender correct, but that doesnt count for shit.
60 and losing it, I guess.
Mea Culpa, mea culpa
Hope I still have some credibility on here.......
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My apologies to all. After an exhaustive search I found programs from 11 years ago at Monti and I am embarrassed to say that I was terribly wrong and sounded like a fool. The horse I was referring to that my 4k claimer beat regularly was NOT Art Official, it WAS Art Afficianado.
I did have the age and gender correct, but that doesnt count for shit.
60 and losing it, I guess.
Mea Culpa, mea culpa
Hope I still have some credibility on here.......
You're good, Old Son.
You just moving the story along. tmbz1
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No problem, you still know more about stuff than most of us put together. You're entitled to forget shit like we all do. I have to rely on search engines or old links to databases otherwise I can't remember anything either.
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Nice of you guys to say. Art Official Art Afficionado kinda similar at least in name LOLOL
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Must be a bitch to your ego though. Thinking you had a horse that beat the horse that beat SBSW
Sorry to be the messenger. Don't kill me. ngc3
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The Cam Fella - It's Fritz showdown at The Meadowlands.
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The Cam Fella - It's Fritz showdown at The Meadowlands.
Carl allen and It's Fritz embarrassed themselves in that race
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Carl allen and It's Fritz embarrassed themselves in that race
How do you figure ?
He got beat by one of the best horses ever.
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This was also an all-time great race by Falcon Seelster! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3goC50jhdjU
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How do you figure ?
He got beat by one of the best horses ever.
!983 US Pacing Championship at the Big M. Right?
The Allen's talked a lot of crap going into the race which was uncharacteristic of them. That aside, Allen pulls the pocket off a 58.1 half, sprints by, opens up a huge lead, looks as if he has TOTALLY put away Cam Fella, then It's Fritz came to a sudden and embarrassing walk deep stretch and gets re - passed not only by Cam Fella but by another horse for second after the field got somewhat scattered at the start. Marty Allens repeated tomahawk chops on the ass of a totally spent It's Fritz looked desperate and amateurish. It's Fritz paced little more than a quarter mile in that race and people talked about him being a rather gutless speed freak. That's how I figure. The buzz around the track was that the Allen's were so confident in IR that they put the very young Marty on the horse and not Rod or Carl.
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The Cam Fella - It's Fritz showdown at The Meadowlands.
Fritz stopped as if shot.
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first time i really enjoyed harness race
was being rewarded for playing show pool.
'89 canadian pacing derby greenwood toronto
overbet show pool for heavyhitter Matts Scooter...who ended tight fourth giving big show payoffs for others including winner CAMTASTIC Tommy Harmer and runner ups TAKE A LOOK and RUNNYMEDE LOBELL.
dont have payoffs here,,but overly generous show payouts because of Matts show miss.
underrated John Krake w the call
https://youtu.be/b76HDJjYbys
yes Krake was good...and used the 'here they are" call............"borrowed" from the great Jack Stephens..yes im old lol
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Fritz stopped as if shot.
tmbz1
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The Forrest Skipper/ Hothead race at Sportsman's Park.