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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: LUCPARK on July 29, 2023, 09:54:25 PM
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25 and 53 to the half with a 3 yr old filly trotter
Superbly driven tonite 🙄🙄🙄
Barely makes the finals by a nostril
Why gut the horse out like that
I’m asking for a friend. His first time watchin
DUMB DRIVES AT the bigm
tmbz1
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The clock in akes head isnt on eastern standard time.
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25 and 53 to the half with a 3 yr old filly trotter
Superbly driven tonite 🙄🙄🙄
Barely makes the finals by a nostril
Why gut the horse out like that
I’m asking for a friend. His first time watchin
DUMB DRIVES AT the bigm
tmbz1
Isn't that the truth. Nice tutorial on how to get the best horse beat.
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Isn't that the truth. Nice tutorial on how to get the best horse beat.
And he fvked the gamblers didn’t horse go off at 1/5 or 1/2
Where’s honest Jeff calling his trainer /driver in for a sit down
Only when it doesn’t effect Jeffrey 🙄🙄😖
Than he’s the THE SAVIOR as we know
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It’s a hobby for them like Ricky got framed for you. Not a big deal for them. They have money and fame so they just race for the fun of it.
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And he fvked the gamblers didn’t horse go off at 1/5 or 1/2
Where’s honest Jeff calling his trainer /driver in for a sit down
Only when it doesn’t effect Jeffrey 🙄🙄😖
Than he’s the THE SAVIOR as we know
Are you saying he lost on purpose?
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Are you saying he lost on purpose?
No
But the question has to be asked either he couldn’t hold horse
Then don’t drive her or
Very bad effort in driving category
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He's horrible!
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tmbz1Ake at times adequate but also throws in clunker drives. Can be overaggressive in big races. I singled bond in p6 and aint complaining. Just not the best drive. Its racing though right.
Now that last raace had a driver with a clock in his head. And i bet the canadian trotter im high on. I think mclure just wanted to stay with the burke horse and timmy got away with a very nice trotter. It happens; but reliability are tetrick miller still. Tough yr for warawee xenia - may be back on her game though. I wouldnt discount her for rest of yr.
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No
But the question has to be asked either he couldn’t hold horse
Then don’t drive her or
Very bad effort in driving category
Yes, Ake's tactics definitely didn't work out, 2 weeks ago the horse didn't finish very well either. (last q of 29.1) Maybe he thought she needed a little more speed tonight? whatever the thought process it didnt end well! (I'll bet he races her off a helmet next week?)
she was my 3rd choice tonight & I probably wont be using here next week, and no I didnt use the 5 Heart on Fire
Where’s honest Jeff calling his trainer /driver in for a sit down
Only when it doesn’t effect Jeffrey 🙄🙄😖
Than he’s the THE SAVIOR as we know
Id say it does affect Jeffery.......... .... since he owns the horse with Ake...........
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No
But the question has to be asked either he couldn’t hold horse
Then don’t drive her or
Very bad effort in driving category
Maybe have Irv get you a special made sulky with the stirrups up close with blocks on them so you can reach with your widdle legs and you can get out there and show them how it's done!
Fukin idiot. Guys made more driving than you'll ever see!
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I like Righteous Resolve next week with a better draw.
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25 and 53 to the half with a 3 yr old filly trotter
Superbly driven tonite 🙄🙄🙄
Barely makes the finals by a nostril
Why gut the horse out like that
I’m asking for a friend. His first time watchin
DUMB DRIVES AT the bigm
tmbz1
Worst part was he did it from the rail and thus opened up spots behind him for the leavers to suck great trips. Again, 100% agree that he has cost several horses dearly by driving them.. best example is the 2018 Hambo elimination with Six Pack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGnS4j5pmxU
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so all of the Ake horses were awful and remember Bond/Jiggy Jog were not sharp on Pace night. So they had 6 total in the Hambo and Oaks and just had two make it as 5th place finishers. Once the others had done so bad it was pretty obvious to avoid Up Your Deo in the Elim. He made the final and unlike the others did have some time off so he could be better next week. You do wonder whats going on in that bard. Where is Stonebridge Helios? Won the Graduate but off since, will he be in the McKee?
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Ake is not universally known as a great driver
he said catch me if you can and put the pedal to the metal, they caught him
can't blame the horse
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Takter barn probably a little disappointed though im sure adios win buffers that. Hard to keep young horses firing month after month. Burke horses as usual though were aces on big card. Sylvia hanover is a beast. Seems a little goofy at times though. Is it possible a switch turns on and we see even more from her. That bongornio horse ran a huge race against her.
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Shady Daisy up next and that will be another small field where Slyvia will put on a show. Dont know if Charleston is eligible to that one or capable enough to give her a scare
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No
But the question has to be asked either he couldn’t hold horse
Then don’t drive her or
Very bad effort in driving category
Ake is in the business just for fun like a lot of horsemen and trainers and drivers. alot of the horses are just pets and they have fun. JF
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Ake is in the business just for fun like a lot of horsemen and trainers and drivers. alot of the horses are just pets and they have fun. JF
Why does he use a cattle prod on his pets ?
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Why does he use a cattle prod on his pets ?
Cattle prod very common in the big barns these days. That barn has won every major race known to man so money means nothing to them. It’s all for fun. Same thing with Erv millers guy overhiser. It’s just fun. These guys all have money so they don’t care if they win or lose. It’s just a hobby and tax write off for these type of people.
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Cattle prod very common in the big barns these days. That barn has won every major race known to man so money means nothing to them. It’s all for fun. Same thing with Erv millers guy overhiser. It’s just fun. These guys all have money so they don’t care if they win or lose. It’s just a hobby and tax write off for these type of people.
So because they win and have plenty of money it’s OK to use a stick that shocks the horse.
Mike Vick had plenty of money. Why did we ruin his fun and stop the dog fights
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So because they win and have plenty of money it’s OK to use a stick that shocks the horse.
Mike Vick had plenty of money. Why did we ruin his fun and stop the dog fights
Not saying it’s right and I wouldn’t do it. But all of the big barns today do it. Sadly just more horse abuse and one of many reasons why harness racing should be ended.
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Not saying it’s right and I wouldn’t do it. But all of the big barns today do it. Sadly just more horse abuse and one of many reasons why harness racing should be ended.
Gotcha. I agree.
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Can you provide proof of this statement?
Look at the barns that 99% of the horses wear a hood with cups! That will show you!
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Can you provide proof of this statement?
Better question to ask the original poster (Superfecta) who accused Ake’s barn of using a cattle prod. I’ll answer after him!
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Better question to ask the original poster (Superfecta) who accused Ake’s barn of using a cattle prod. I’ll answer after him!
"Bits and pieces
The shakeup in Sweden, involving the country’s top trotting trainer, has resulted in Ake Svanstedt found guilty. In an unusual case of standardbred abuse, Svanstedt was convicted of “acts of or encouragement to commit animal cruelty.”
The case against him claimed that Ake encouraged his second trainer to perform cruel acts on trotters in their care. The original indictment offered nine counts and Ake beat all but two of them.
He was fined $2,500 and $5,000 in court fees. The second trainer was found guilty of “breaching the law” and another team-Svanstedt trainer was found guilty of making threats against a witness.
While appeals are pending, the Swedish Trotting Association (STA) has cause to present the accused with their walking papers, which would put the sport in a freefall considering the stock team-Svanstedt handled. It is possible that owners of trotters in the care of Svanstedt and company are already fleeing, which could leave the trainer’s lucrative business in ruins. The STA, sources say, will not act until all appeals have been exhausted, though authorities there pointed out “how serious they regard the charges.”
https://youbetblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/01/the-lions-in-winter/
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3263179
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Thats nothing..Many years ago at Harrington Raceway when they had a barn area. I saw G Teague Jr beat one so bad with the whip were the horse reared up and fell over backwards and broke his damn neck! DEAD right there in the road...A few years later he was being honor with some "Good Guy" award from the harness writer's association! 100% true story! So go figure!
11.wp
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"Bits and pieces
The shakeup in Sweden, involving the country’s top trotting trainer, has resulted in Ake Svanstedt found guilty. In an unusual case of standardbred abuse, Svanstedt was convicted of “acts of or encouragement to commit animal cruelty.”
The case against him claimed that Ake encouraged his second trainer to perform cruel acts on trotters in their care. The original indictment offered nine counts and Ake beat all but two of them.
He was fined $2,500 and $5,000 in court fees. The second trainer was found guilty of “breaching the law” and another team-Svanstedt trainer was found guilty of making threats against a witness.
While appeals are pending, the Swedish Trotting Association (STA) has cause to present the accused with their walking papers, which would put the sport in a freefall considering the stock team-Svanstedt handled. It is possible that owners of trotters in the care of Svanstedt and company are already fleeing, which could leave the trainer’s lucrative business in ruins. The STA, sources say, will not act until all appeals have been exhausted, though authorities there pointed out “how serious they regard the charges.”
https://youbetblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/01/the-lions-in-winter/
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3263179
I didn’t read anything about a cattle prod. It says abuse but omits to what level of abuse.
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I have to confess to be a little confused by this. Article looks to be 13 yrs old. I read above to suggest this guy using cattle prod in races. Ive heard and seen in thoroughbreds a buzzer being used- cant recall horse name but yrs back 3 yr old won arkansas derby with one used; took off like shot out cannon when used in stretch. I cant believe anyone is using a cattle prod in races without a bit more support here. What good would a prod do beforehand. Are we talking about animal abuse and is the claim this barn is using cattle prods now on horses before or in races.
Please explain.
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I didn’t read anything about a cattle prod. It says abuse but omits to what level of abuse.
https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/3263179
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I have to confess to be a little confused by this. Article looks to be 13 yrs old. I read above to suggest this guy using cattle prod in races. Ive heard and seen in thoroughbreds a buzzer being used- cant recall horse name but yrs back 3 yr old won arkansas derby with one used; took off like shot out cannon when used in stretch. I cant believe anyone is using a cattle prod in races without a bit more support here. What good would a prod do beforehand. Are we talking about animal abuse and is the claim this barn is using cattle prods now on horses before or in races.
Please explain.
If I remember correctly Ake was accused of ordering his second trainer to use a cattle prod on selected horses during training. (Not in races) I think another one of Ake's trainers was accused of making threats to a witness before the trial. I was told this was happening around the same time that Ake left Sweden & moved to the US. Some have suggested the timing of the move was no coincidence.
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If I remember correctly Ake was accused of ordering his second trainer to use a cattle prod on selected horses during training. (Not in races) I think another one of Ake's trainers was accused of making threats to a witness before the trial. I was told this was happening around the same time that Ake left Sweden & moved to the US. Some have suggested the timing of the move was no coincidence.
This is who Mr. Integrity hires to train his horses. I would like to shock him with the prod.
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This is who Mr. Integrity hires to train his horses. I would like to shock him with the prod.
This is the reason Ike took up residence in the US. The article is old news.
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Is there any difference between a Swedish cattle prod versus a USA one? Maybe one more powerful then the other. They have to just end harness racing altogether and put all of the horsemen at one track with non betting racing so they can all torture each other.
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Maybe if Sarah hit him with a cattle prod he bang her more often instead of having to go find strange cock. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3