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Title: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: towtruck on August 31, 2023, 01:38:10 PM
Race 10 Canada, Bythemissal ,under wraps in 47 last week! They hemmed in Allywagg but when these two square up for $615K, i believe the Missal will win in 45 and change,,,,
You heard it here first,, AT THE PLOP!!

Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Calhoun on August 31, 2023, 02:09:15 PM
That's a bold statement
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 31, 2023, 02:12:03 PM
Beware the bounce! 76za.dcg
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: LUCPARK on August 31, 2023, 02:43:44 PM
  48/1  THIS SAT
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Harness Stats on August 31, 2023, 02:47:15 PM
Never happening at Mohawk.  Now if it's hot come Red Mile time and there's a Rabbit that goes the half in 52 and change and he's like sitting fourth or fifth there is a definite chance.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 31, 2023, 03:07:45 PM
be funny if he lost all together. I get a feeling that horse has a major hole in him somewhere.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 31, 2023, 04:13:24 PM
Never happening at Mohawk.  Now if it's hot come Red Mile time and there's a Rabbit that goes the half in 52 and change and he's like sitting fourth or fifth there is a definite chance.

Dr J hanover won in 46.4 there but it was an early carded race … maybe the 2nd or 3rd of the night on an earlier post time

It seems as though with early posts during summer time, Mohawk can supply fast miles with a lot of water put into the track prior to the first race of the night.

The later carded races of the night there don’t tend to be as snappy
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 31, 2023, 04:28:39 PM
Funny you say that, I always felt that tracks got faster later into the card as they were raced over a few times.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 31, 2023, 04:47:58 PM
Funny you say that, I always felt that tracks got faster later into the card as they were raced over a few times.

I am sure that could be the case in some scenarios
A lot of factors could affect that

But as for Mohawk specifically, it seems as though the earlier races go fastest
I am not sure if it has to do with altitude or perhaps the amount of water they put into the track prior to the first race
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Equus Caballus on August 31, 2023, 08:35:50 PM
Anyone remember the first or second race on the North America Cup card?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0jf6Ai_vRk

Yes my point. Good horse obviously, but definitely an outlying mile time.
Good example
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on August 31, 2023, 11:43:24 PM
Other than having bought a horse there 32 years ago, i know nothing of Mohawk. I trust you guys that do know.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Mailbox Money on September 01, 2023, 12:48:24 AM
be funny if he lost all together. I get a feeling that horse has a major hole in him somewhere.
The major issue that caused him to miss time early in his career appears to be in his rear view mirror! The story is well documented if you care to educate yourself about it.I believe that it was an incident with an aquaciser or something very similar. Hopefully it is water under the bridge! ngc3
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: towtruck on September 01, 2023, 06:51:53 AM
Beware the bounce! 76za.dcg
Bythemissal won nearly all of his earlier lifetime starts with Chris Page in the bike!.Since changing hands, he has become a machine. Just watch last week's race. Yannick never asked him to go and went 47 flat under a strangle hold! His qualifier the last quarter went 24 and change.?? I guess my old eyes are getting a little rusty after fishing Charlie May in the Haughton! ($64.40)
LEARN THE GAME!  11.wp
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: towtruck on September 01, 2023, 07:02:45 AM
Beware the bounce! 76za.dcg
bounce? was never asked to go last quarter of a mile,,,
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: White Rabbit on September 01, 2023, 10:47:42 PM
I am to go with Tattoo Artist.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: White Rabbit on September 02, 2023, 11:20:53 PM
The missile got a tattoo
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: SDST2009 on September 02, 2023, 11:33:13 PM
 
The missile got a tattoo

 ngc3 touche.

How about the interview? Laughed out loud at Roy. Good for them though - what a nice little horse that is.

ETA: I also went with the 4  ;D
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: HornbyDuke on September 02, 2023, 11:34:48 PM
The missile got a tattoo

Nice call. Ran a nice elim last week too.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: SDST2009 on September 02, 2023, 11:39:28 PM
Nice call. Ran a nice elim last week too.

Yup, good call. 52.2 back half last week. By far the best in the group. Not a hard horse to use. Can’t believe he went off where he did. 6 or 7-1 I think?
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Mailbox Money on September 02, 2023, 11:41:52 PM
Wite Wabbit was on point!Gr8 call Padre! tmbz1 76za.dcg 62za.clp
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 03, 2023, 12:09:30 AM
The final was tonight? Bythemissal got beat?
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 03, 2023, 12:20:33 AM
Just watched it. Dead game Bythemyssal, but still he bounced the other way and got beat. Certainly not Bulldog material. Did you see that weird step Bythemissal put in top of the stretch. Game horse but there is something off there. Foot, shoulder? Hard to tell.
He bounced, Towtruck.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 03, 2023, 12:22:22 AM
Race 10 Canada, Bythemissal ,under wraps in 47 last week! They hemmed in Allywagg but when these two square up for $615K, i believe the Missal will win in 45 and change,,,,
You heard it here first,, AT THE PLOP!!

He LOST in 47 and change. Something off upfront.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Mailbox Money on September 03, 2023, 12:40:26 AM
He has been putting in those steps ever since he debuted for Burke. When he set a record at Shortfield Park he was doing that! He had some kind of major issue with Josh Green which is probably the reason for him bailing out on him. I just hope that horse doesn't snap or tear something while racing in front of a field of good horses.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 03, 2023, 12:43:42 AM
I talked about my gut feeling that he has a major hole in him and he could bounce the wrong way off last week's jogburger and got laughed at. Lotsa keyboard Hall of Famers here, but hey that's part of what makes it fun. Ty for the Josh Green part of the story
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: PIGLAND on September 03, 2023, 06:10:49 AM
where was yannick last night? over driving horses?
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Bernie Madoff on September 03, 2023, 10:22:26 AM
Base on money, Yannick is a top driver. But like so many favorites I have seen he mad the mistake of underestimating the first turn at Mohawk. That is is a 5/8th mile turn on a 7/8th mile track. I have seem many top horses and drivers lose races by being parked ot on that turn. He could easily dropped in third and went for the lead after the turn. That was his winning move.

https://goo.gl/maps/Zomw5SxiK6yWrwsg8




He forgot where he was?
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Anakin on September 03, 2023, 11:02:46 AM
Could say that about him almost every race.

where was yannick last night? over driving horses?
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Brown jug on September 03, 2023, 01:51:12 PM
yes yannick overdrives everything but in most cases it works especially if horses are the best
yes that first turn at mohawk can take the sting out of a horse especially if first 1/8 is low 12
fastest miles usually in the early races especially after mid august
the temp can  cool down significantly  from 7pm to 9.30 or later which i am sure also affects the track surface
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Stan durbread on September 03, 2023, 01:57:37 PM
First 1/8 mile at Mohawk is all straight away they usually back down to 30 seconds 1/4 from 1/8-3/8 pole
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 03, 2023, 04:41:14 PM
I love all the coulda, woulda, shoulda, couch potato, Monday morning quarterback World Class drivers on here who tie themselves up in knots explaining why a dead game and obviously knot sound solid racehorse gets beat in the last couple steps in 1.47 and continue to find 100 reasons why one of the top 5 drivers alive really isn't very good. It's for laughs
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: towtruck on September 04, 2023, 08:46:27 AM
Just watched it. Dead game Bythemyssal, but still he bounced the other way and got beat. Certainly not Bulldog material. Did you see that weird step Bythemissal put in top of the stretch. Game horse but there is something off there. Foot, shoulder? Hard to tell.
He bounced, Towtruck.
I"M SURE no one noticed, but Missal was sick in Post parade. I SAW along with other viewers that REALLY WATCH EVERYTHING going on ALL THE TiME that Missal leaked snots right out of his nose ON CAMERA! STILL ran his eyes out! Tattoo is incredible these last 6 starts for sure. Congrats to all involved,,
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 04, 2023, 09:41:17 AM
I wish I had you with me when I was training and gambling. Never met someone who knew a horse was sick by watching him in the Post Parade from the grandstand or paddock rail simply because he blew some snot several times. That said, he ran dead game as i pointed out. There is also something wrong, from what i can see left front. You could see him wince twice from pain, especially that moment at the top of the stretch. this much I am sure of.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: SeattleSlew on September 05, 2023, 04:38:01 AM
I wish I had you with me when I was training and gambling. Never met someone who knew a horse was sick by watching him in the Post Parade from the grandstand or paddock rail simply because he blew some snot several times. That said, he ran dead game as i pointed out. There is also something wrong, from what i can see left front. You could see him wince twice from pain, especially that moment at the top of the stretch. this much I am sure of.

Your knowledge of horses does you proud in your observations. I agree 100%.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 05, 2023, 06:29:57 AM
Very kind words, ty! You and Gaagoots are among my top peeps on here.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: towtruck on September 05, 2023, 09:30:00 PM
I wish I had you with me when I was training and gambling. Never met someone who knew a horse was sick by watching him in the Post Parade from the grandstand or paddock rail simply because he blew some snot several times. That said, he ran dead game as i pointed out. There is also something wrong, from what i can see left front. You could see him wince twice from pain, especially that moment at the top of the stretch. this much I am sure of.
Well just like in humans, if snot is running out of your nose, i'm pretty sure your sick . No need to go see your doctor,,,,except for the meds.
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: Fuguzzi on September 05, 2023, 09:32:59 PM
Well just like in humans, if snot is running out of your nose, i'm pretty sure your sick . No need to go see your doctor,,,,except for the meds.
What about cokeheads? LOLOL you made a ridiculous prediction and now you are telling me from the rail you knew the horse was sick. just give it up. I'd be more concerned about his leg. Dead game horse though. if he was 100% - LOOKOUT!
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: towtruck on September 05, 2023, 09:34:46 PM
What about cokeheads? LOLOL you made a ridiculous prediction and now you are telling me from the rail you knew the horse was sick. just give it up. I'd be more concerned about his leg. Dead game horse though. if he was 100% - LOOKOUT!
Hey listen buddy, i don't care what you believe! i hang with THEE BEST trotter cappers left on this planet! At least two of us saw the snot CLEARLY ON TV!
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: towtruck on September 05, 2023, 09:38:04 PM
I TOUTED CHARLIE MAY @ $60 plus dollars! He went 47 at the PIG M. If i used Tattoo Artist for second, they would have handed over the keys! What i forgot you'll NEVER LEARN! My eyes do not lie!
Title: Re: Burke to launch a Missile at BULLDOG's world record
Post by: towtruck on September 05, 2023, 09:41:04 PM
I gave out Confederate FOUR MONTHS AGO!!!
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