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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: theokodjak26 on September 11, 2023, 10:30:23 PM
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I forget the year I walked into the grandstand at MR and there was a glass wall with horses and people on the other side. I was like what the heck is this and why? Were they building a new paddock on the hill next to the office? Were they trying to give the fans a more intimate look at what goes on in a paddock? I would chuckle as fans would yell at the trainers through the glass asking who was going to win. Or maybe they were cussing them out for a perceived stiff job. Well inquiring minds want to know. Who out there participated in this folly and can share a few stories?
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I wanna say it opened around late 85.early 86. One thing i do remember is that it had a perpetual strong odor of DMSO. My wife would get sick to her stomach in it.
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Also, I believe the main reason for it, was to get the horses and horseman out of that insane outdoor paddock on the far turn hill which was incredibly fucking cold. At first some curious fans would huddle at the windows to see what was going on. But that wore off pretty soon. If anything having the paddock basically attached to the grandstand allowed for a lot of communication. Joe Minieri used to abuse this a lot. very easy to get numbers out of the paddock.
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Fug do you know why MR mgmt stopped using this paddock? Did the Board of Health close it down?
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Cedric went in and out of there to punch tickets and would give me some live ones, great guy.
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Fug do you know why MR mgmt stopped using this paddock? Did the Board of Health close it down?
No idea. I havent been to Monti since I stopped owning horses there Circa 2014
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To build the racino we raced out of the.ship in barn til new paddock was done.
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Also, I believe the main reason for it, was to get the horses and horseman out of that insane outdoor paddock on the far turn hill which was incredibly fucking cold. At first some curious fans would huddle at the windows to see what was going on. But that wore off pretty soon. If anything having the paddock basically attached to the grandstand allowed for a lot of communication. Joe Minieri used to abuse this a lot. very easy to get numbers out of the paddock.
I enjoy your stories Fug, But Joe did not and would not call out numbers from the indoor paddock.
Now on the side of the then new paddock and at the edge of the apron there was an area that was fenced in and outside on the apron That is where the numbers were given. I will not name names but it was fairly common, but it was not Joe.
Also, if you watched carefully there was one trainer who has since been banned whose son drove for him that was an expert in milkshaking his horses so no one, except me,
The grandstand paddock was actually a great idea and it was meant to give the bettors a close up experience. But they also paraded out to the track 5 feet from the patrons and it got rowdy. I recall once "dead" nickname because he went dead so often Dead Dave Marshall stiffed a 1-5 shot from the rail, he has almost attacked by the patrons.
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I think you misunderstood. I knew Joe well and considered him a friend. All I was saying was Joe could often be heard talking loudly towards the grandstand outside where the horses came on and odd. the cyclone extension of the old indoor paddock. i never accused him of talking bets over the fence. Sorry it came off that way. I apologize.
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On and off Cyclone fence extension.
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Just re-read what I wrote and my thoughts kinda blurred, so I could see how I gave off the wrong impression. Again, my apologies.
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Just re-read what I wrote and my thoughts kinda blurred, so I could see how I gave off the wrong impression. Again, my apologies.
No problem. I a different way from Manzi, Joe was an ambassador for Monti. Really good guy.
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He was. Joe had a good heart and always meant well. I can tell you a funny anecdote about Joe and me and as i look back, I almost find it hard to believe myself and I lived it. LOL.. Pretty sure as he started out transitioning from the carting business, he had a friend named Wally Partridge, right. The guy worked for him with the horses. I am going bck to 1983. Can you confirm my memory....
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It was the cheapest structure ever built pure garbage the paddock used the cheapest lumber and I hooks money could buy.
The offices were heated in the winter, making it a good place on dark day to take a barn slut. Plenty of good blow jobs were given in the paddock judges chair, we also use the desk to fuck on leaving a nice mess.. A good time was had by all.
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It was the cheapest structure ever built pure garbage the paddock used the cheapest lumber and I hooks money could buy.
The offices were heated in the winter, making it a good place on dark day to take a barn slut. Plenty of good blow jobs were given in the paddock judges chair, we also use the desk to fuck on leaving a nice mess.. A good time was had by all. sorry for the double post
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It was the cheapest structure ever built pure garbage the paddock used the cheapest lumber and I hooks money could buy.
The lock on the piss catchers office door could be Jimmy with a screwdriver, giving access to the blood gas machine need I say more!
The offices were heated in the winter, making it a good place on dark day to take a barn slut. Plenty of good blow jobs were given in the paddock judges chair, we also use the desk to fuck on leaving a nice mess.. A good time was had by all.
I'd rather know who you were fucking?
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It was the cheapest structure ever built pure garbage the paddock used the cheapest lumber and I hooks money could buy.
The offices were heated in the winter, making it a good place on dark day to take a barn slut. Plenty of good blow jobs were given in the paddock judges chair, we also use the desk to fuck on leaving a nice mess.. A good time was had by all. sorry for the double post
The chair occupied by that great prince of a gentleman, Vinnie Bergamo!
Thanks for those informative details!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I'd rather know who you were fucking?
Tony Ratti had an amazing girl that worked for him. Excellent titties! Any chance???
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He was. Joe had a good heart and always meant well. I can tell you a funny anecdote about Joe and me and as i look back, I almost find it hard to believe myself and I lived it. LOL.. Pretty sure as he started out transitioning from the carting business, he had a friend named Wally Partridge, right. The guy worked for him with the horses. I am going bck to 1983. Can you confirm my memory....
Joe started by training and driving his own horses. He started making $$$ when he took on other owners and left the driving to others. Initially John DeSimone and Sep. He finally settled on SEP for reasons I wont get into but you may know. Though I have been going to Monti since the early seventies, I was a regular starting in the very late 80,s to the late 90's when I warned Sully I was done if he didn't clean up the Bullshit. He didn't and I was done until about a year ago when I printed a program ans actually started winning.
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The chair occupied by that great prince of a gentleman, Vinnie Bergamo!
Thanks for those informative details!! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Vinny was a good guy. I’m talking about the paddock office, where they used to call the races out from. Rocky’s desk. ngc3
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Tony Ratti had an amazing girl that worked for him. Excellent titties! Any chance???
I remember her those titties! I wish but not her.
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Tony Ratti had an amazing girl that worked for him. Excellent titties! Any chance???
There were a couple. One worked for DeSantis, one rainy day she said oh no, I can’t. I have my period. I said even better we put a towel over the desk and left it there. What a fucking mess. 😳😂
They finally caught wise the dumb bastards and put new locks on the doors.
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There were a couple. One worked for DeSantis, one rainy day she said oh no, I can’t. I have my period. I said even better we put a towel over the desk and left it there. What a fucking mess. 😳😂
They finally caught wise the dumb bastards and put new locks on the doors.
Didn't you ever hear of wet wipes? Maybe they weren't invented yet.
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I liked this conversation a lot better before it deteriorated to titties, pussies and body fluids.
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Didn't you ever hear of wet wipes? Maybe they weren't invented yet.
ngc3 You mean more like a diaper! She was in the middle of her cycle. Nothing would’ve helped!
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Joe started by training and driving his own horses. He started making $$$ when he took on other owners and left the driving to others. Initially John DeSimone and Sep. He finally settled on SEP for reasons I wont get into but you may know. Though I have been going to Monti since the early seventies, I was a regular starting in the very late 80,s to the late 90's when I warned Sully I was done if he didn't clean up the Bullshit. He didn't and I was done until about a year ago when I printed a program ans actually started winning.
ok, well what i was getting at was this....I'll try to be brief. Fall, 1983, Pocono. I am grooming for Arnold teat and we are qualifying an old Buddy Gilmour castoff named, Oswald. A tall, gruff, dark haired guy and his asst. a little guy walk over to me and introduce themselves as Joe Minieri and Wally Partridge. they are carrying equipment. Joe says, " hey, ya know what this is? " I'm like, "It's a harness" He says, "Yeah, but what kind" It was a modified harness with a gum rubber girth. he asks if I could show him how to put it on his horse and attach the cart. I said sure.
Flash forward a few years...I am starting out on my own having spent 84 and 85 at the Big M. Monti existed of course but I really wasn't paying attention. So now it's like 87 and I have a couple that wont do at YR, naturally take them to Monti. I get there and lo and behold JOE MINIERL, the ex garbage man, has a barn full and is leading trainer. I was like, HOLY SHIT, Just a few years ago he asked ME, a nobody groom, how to put on the newfangled harnesses of the day. Might sound silly now, but it made an impression on me.
Joe had a good heart. I heard he would 4H kids cometo the barn and jog and fool with the horses. That sorta thing.
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"Joe had a good heart. I heard he would 4H kids cometo the barn and jog and fool with the horses. That sorta thing."
Funny you say that. I used to bring my own kids to his barn. What a treat for them and Joe.
Nice story
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That was Joe 73cv.2
I used to laugh going by his barn and looking in on a Sunday morning as he was running around, barking orders and trying to organize 9 horses going to the paddock, trying not forget something or other. Then the parade of horses, carts, bikes and grooms down the hill would begin. I miss those days so bad, it hurts.
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Joe was a great guy and a real character I always liked him. He always walked to the winners circle when his horse would win.
If I caught him right, warming up a horse as he was walking back to the paddock I used to yell at him to fuck off he was turning around and laugh.
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That was Joe. Dark slacks or jeans, heavy black mud boots and a buttoned shirt - half opened, never tucked in. Always seemed like he didnt walk, he trudged. Gone from us too soon. God rest his soul.