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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Fuguzzi on September 13, 2023, 02:46:51 PM
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We did our 5 favorite drivers, let's do our LEAST 5 favorite drivers. Details optional.
Here's mine -
No particular order.
Jack Moiseyev
Joe Marsh
Carmine Abbatiello
Billy Fahy
Cat Manzi
Honorable mentions go out to Cat Manzi and from the good ole days Tom Merriman
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Real Crummy my name for Coco Cormier
Rene Poulin
Walter Case
Buddy Gilmour
Cat Manzi
Frank Popfinger
Ben Webster
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Real Crummy my name for Coco Cormier
Rene Poulin
Walter Case
Buddy Gilmour
Cat Manzi
Frank Popfinger
Ben Webster
I like your list these would be my next 5
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Tony Morgan - big time asshole and crook
Andy Miller- way over overrated
Marcus Miller- loses on horses no one should lose on
Ceba Horsey- how does he have a license, dangerous every time out
Jody Jamieson- see Tony Morgan reasoning
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We did our 5 favorite drivers, let's do our LEAST 5 favorite drivers. Details optional.
Here's mine -
No particular order.
Jack Moiseyev
Joe Marsh
Carmine Abbatiello
Billy Fahy
Cat Manzi
Honorable mentions go out to Cat Manzi and from the good ole days Tom Merriman
[/quoteI didn't mean to include cat twice, sorry
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Hey Fuguzzi and The Thorn they were my favorite drivers also Eddie Cobb Harold Story
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Hey Fuguzzi and The Thorn they were my favorite drivers also Eddie Cobb Harold Story
Cobbie named a horse: Honest Story
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Rene Poilin no talent and a horrible human being. Just fucking horrible.
Nick Ferraro no talent
Eric Molor no talent and another despicable human being!
Walter Lafrenier no talent
Dzingel bro’s take you pic no talent
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1. Stanley Banks
2. Randy Jacobs
3. Jim Curran
4. Jack Moiseyev
5. Dwight Banks
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Fug you must be kidding. These guys are HOF material compared to some of the iron handed drivers I could list.
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1) Normand Dauplaise
2) Joe Shwind
3) Clint Galbraith
4) Gilles Gendron
5) Eric Goodell
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Tony Morgan - big time asshole and crook
Andy Miller- way over overrated
Marcus Miller- loses on horses no one should lose on
Ceba Horsey- how does he have a license, dangerous every time out
Jody Jamieson- see Tony Morgan reasoning
Accurate and can add Bob McClure see Tony Morgan reasoning too
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Rene Poulin was Sandy Goldfarb's man, a magician with a tube and go-juice
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Just to clarify. This thread is about drivers you don't like for whatever reason, not if they were great drivers. There are a lot of Hall of Fame drivers who won when they wanted to or more importantly DIDN'T win when they were supposed to.
Some may have just been horrible human beings and there are a lot of them we could include like the French Canadian guy who's in the news for beating a horse that had to be put down because of it.
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Fug you must be kidding. These guys are HOF material compared to some of the iron handed drivers I could list.
Hey buddy, Not questioning their talent. I am talking about dislike for them as people, their style, the way they conducted themselves and went about their business.
For example - Joe Marsh - talented, but dead most of the time. We called him the Policeman because he spent most of his time cruising the outside, controlling traffic and orchestrating numbers. Plus an arrogant asshole all the time
As compared to a Luc Ouellette - tried like crazy, loved winning, simply loved driving - a gentleman too
Jackie Mo and Cat - miserable pricks.
Remember I simply said least favorite, not least talented.
look at all the fools who denigrate Yannick on here and he is a phenomenal money driver.
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Just to clarify. This thread is about drivers you don't like for whatever reason, not if they were great drivers. There are a lot of Hall of Fame drivers who won when they wanted to or more importantly DIDN'T win when they were supposed to.
Some may have just been horrible human beings and there are a lot of them we could include like the French Canadian guy who's in the news for beating a horse that had to be put down because of it.
TYVM for reiterating Thorn.. Exactly where I was going with this...
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My least favorite
1-Dave Magee (management kiss ass)
2- Walter Paisley (way over rated)
3- Gary Mills (thief in the night)
4- Joe Anderson (no talent good juice)
5- Steve Pletcher (horrible miserable prick)
I have plenty more
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Rene Poulin was Sandy Goldfarb's man, a magician with a tube and go-juice
Not only Sandy - that's for sure.
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Gotcha Fug. Sorry about that. I didn’t know that was what you were looking for. Not knowing these drivers the way you trainers did I must step out as a participant but will enjoy the comments from all that know these guys first hand.
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Please don't apologize theo.. We are friends and I love the history you impart on here. Of course you can participate. As an owner and observer you must have formed opinions, so please share them!
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Well I only know what I saw in the paddocks so here we go:
At Freehold, Liberty Bell, Brandywine I thought Harold Kelly was great. Herve was a quick how are you and Joe Schwind seemed aloof and a bit suspicious to me. I know Joe would occasionally stiff us by getting boxed at Freehold when he could have easily gotten out. He would come back like it was just another day at the office. But to be fair when he did good he looked awfully good.
At the Meadowlands in the 2003-2008 area my least favorite by far was Jim Morrill. I mention those years because back then the rumors were flying that he had a gambling problem and who knows what else. If he drove one of ours and won he was all smiles or before some races he would say see you in the winners circle. But if a horse had a bad night, tied up, whatever it wasn’t unusual for him to tell our trainer to never put his name down on that horse again. A very erratic personality back then. The very good guys to me were Ron Pierce, Mike Lachance and especially Brian Sears.
At Pompano Park I never knew what to make of the now retired Andy Santeramo. He seemed ok but I saw him more often at the bar and windows than before a race. I was told he was once a pretty good driver on the YR/RR circuit.
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Brian Sears is the best one out there. Always a professional.
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Brian Sears is the best one out there. Always a professional.
That was a good one. Made for a nice laugh right before bed time.
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Eric Ledford
Tony Morgan
Jason Bartlett
Greg Grismore
Brent Holland
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Tony Morgan
Semen Allard
Rick Zeron
Jim Morril
Mike NoCahance. Not sure what it was about him but if I bet him he never won. If I left him off the ticket he would win
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Tony Morgan
Semen Allard
Rick Zeron
Jim Morril
Mike NoCahance. Not sure what it was about him but if I bet him he never won. If I left him off the ticket he would win
When it comes to Lachance you just didnt know about the red whip up thing.
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I see the son of the despicable Ledford has made the list. I will assume Eric has been out of the game in recent years?