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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Lance on September 18, 2023, 08:25:35 AM
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I'm not sure who this trainer is but I don't think i've ever seen a trainer that likes to race two year old's as much as she does. Don't often see people race 2 yr old 3 and 4 times a week. Good on them if its works.
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I'm not sure who this trainer is but I don't think i've ever seen a trainer that likes to race two year old's as much as she does. Don't often see people race 2 yr old 3 and 4 times a week. Good on them if its works.
Long time ago there was an old man in Ny who would race his 2 year olds 25 times or MORE and his 3 year olds 40 times on the NYS fair circuits and Monti and Vernon. Once saw him take a horse off the track after racing, remove the bike, loosen the girth and put the horse directly on a trailer. This was at a fair upstate. After checking the results from each track as I always did, I saw the same horse raced at Monti later that evening. Old timers will remember Ralph wore brownish colors with an orange road sign on the back in the triangle shape of a yield sign. Think he had a son named mike. He was ultimately barred from the business for holding back his crop of yearlings with the assistance of a crooked vet. That's how he raced his babies so much. His "2 year olds" were actually 3 and so on
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Hard work
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They have 11 2 year olds and 3 year olds racing today at the Ashland fair.
9 2 year olds including 5 who have 19+ starts
2 3 year olds and they have 27 and 36 starts this year.
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They have 11 2 year olds and 3 year olds racing today at the Ashland fair.
9 2 year olds including 5 who have 19+ starts
2 3 year olds and they have 27 and 36 starts this year.
They are fudging the year of foaling just like Ralph Sherman.
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Ralph Sherman...died in a plane crash with him flying it in the mountains of colorado. found him buried in the plane years later.
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Ralph Sherman...died in a plane crash with him flying it in the mountains of colorado. found him buried in the plane years later.
Unaware of that Bizarre Do you remember him firsthand and what i am talking about?
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Yes,used to fudge the breeding dates. I knew Ralph. He was a retired schoolteacher and flew his own plane. He and his wife crashed in the mountains and were found years later.
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Looks like someone has gone to the Blutarsky school of posting!
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Ralph Sherman...died in a plane crash with him flying it in the mountains of colorado. found him buried in the plane years later.
Ralph and his wife Estelle were good peeps...nobody's perfect...Crashed his plane in November of 99 in Colorado mountains...They tried to repair their emergency locater beacon and died of exposure,,,some hikers found the plane and their bodies in July of 2000...
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Long time ago there was an old man in Ny who would race his 2 year olds 25 times or MORE and his 3 year olds 40 times on the NYS fair circuits and Monti and Vernon. Once saw him take a horse off the track after racing, remove the bike, loosen the girth and put the horse directly on a trailer. This was at a fair upstate. After checking the results from each track as I always did, I saw the same horse raced at Monti later that evening. Old timers will remember Ralph wore brownish colors with an orange road sign on the back in the triangle shape of a yield sign. Think he had a son named mike. He was ultimately barred from the business for holding back his crop of yearlings with the assistance of a crooked vet. That's how he raced his babies so much. His "2 year olds" were actually 3 and so on
That was Ralph Sherman old school horseman. Him and his family are good people.. His son is a blacksmith
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You guys dont believe this? Are you serious? I don't make stuff up and many of you compliment my posts. I know for a fact that he held back his babies to race horses vs those a year younger and he STOLE thousands that way and was tossed from the business. i only brought this up because of the Betty Clegg thing and the possible similarity. How else do 2 year olds start racing early April and race 30 times with out coming completely apart. he and his wife may be wonderful people off track and he may have died tragically, but he did what he did.
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Yes,used to fudge the breeding dates. I knew Ralph. He was a retired schoolteacher and flew his own plane. He and his wife crashed in the mountains and were found years later.
Thank you for the confirmation Tumbleweed. I dont like when some people call me a liar.
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BETTY AND NICK CLEGG = ALLARD FROM THE PRISON CELL. THEY CHANGE THE DATES ON ALL OF THE THREE YEAR OLD HORSES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE 2 YEARS OLD.
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You guys dont believe this? Are you serious? I don't make stuff up and many of you compliment my posts. I know for a fact that he held back his babies to race horses vs those a year younger and he STOLE thousands that way and was tossed from the business. i only brought this up because of the Betty Clegg thing and the possible similarity. How else do 2 year olds start racing early April and race 30 times with out coming completely apart. he and his wife may be wonderful people off track and he may have died tragically, but he did what he did.
fuguzzi, as far as people go they’re really nice people to me, but I know exactly what you mean with the horses he was like a German staff Sergeant with the horses.
Great guy, but I wouldn’t give him a fucking mule to train.
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BETTY AND NICK CLEGG = ALLARD FROM THE PRISON CELL. THEY CHANGE THE DATES ON ALL OF THE THREE YEAR OLD HORSES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE 2 YEARS OLD.
It wouldn’t surprise me. Several years ago, I saw a photo of Rene Allard, Richie Banca, and Nick Clegg having a good time together.
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It wouldn’t surprise me. Several years ago, I saw a photo of Rene Allard, Richie Banca, and Nick Clegg having a good time together.
NICK ISNT ANYWHERE NEAR THE HORSEMAN THAT BANCA AND ALLARD ARE. HE IS JUST THEIR PUPPET BOY. MAKES GOOD MONEY BEING THEIR GOFER SO WHY NOT I GUESS
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Watched him action for years. "Gruff" is putting it mildly. Very heavy handed with the whip, dragging them around, loading onto trailers 5 minutes after a race dressed and no bath for the horse. Fair races by day and Monti by night with the same horse. again, I did not know him personally, but if Ralph ever cracked a smile on or off track, I never saw it. Like a vast majority of you, I deplore serious cheating in our sport and talk about cheating - he stole tens of thousands over the years by racing older horses as younger until they caught up with him. He held them back in the field for a whole year.
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Dunkin, trained by Betty, Driven by Nick, just paced the fastest mile ever at Ashland County Fair. So there!
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I find it interesting that most down under horses don’t even begin racing until they are 4 or 5 years old while here we put a harness on babies as soon as their mothers placenta is cleaned off. Don’t you think it is much better for young horses to let them grow up before putting so much pressure on their young bodies? I know many will say the expenses are too much to wait but how do they handle it in NZ and Australia?
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Dunkin, trained by Betty, Driven by Nick, just paced the fastest mile ever at Ashland County Fair. So there!
Yeap and back in to race at Delaware on Thursday
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BETTY AND NICK CLEGG = ALLARD FROM THE PRISON CELL. THEY CHANGE THE DATES ON ALL OF THE THREE YEAR OLD HORSES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE 2 YEARS OLD.
Cleggs bought a lot of yearlings at the Ohio yearling sales last year, so the ones that are racing as 2-year olds are mostly those. May be others with date changes; I don't know. So far this year they bought 3 or 4 at the August Blooded Horse Sale and 12 at the Ohio Selected Jug Sale last week. They buy mostly cheaper horses and race them at fairs. Wonder where the money comes from.
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Dunkin, trained by Betty, Driven by Nick, just paced the fastest mile ever at Ashland County Fair. So there!
1:57.2 is the fastest ever at Ashland? Regardless he came home in 28 thats norm, haters gonna hate, they haven't raced any the next day like others do, they're good people get over it
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I've seen Nick Clegg in action. You are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to mine.
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Probably have a few double kindergarten horses but honestly Uncle Nick Can drive one. 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
then passes the lines to Timmy T or A-Aron and horse will runoff due too 100lb weight difference…easy math and easy money
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When you owe people that don't like to be owed,all rational thought goes out the window! 43xc.2 43xc.2 43xc.2
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Cleggs bought a lot of yearlings at the Ohio yearling sales last year, so the ones that are racing as 2-year olds are mostly those. May be others with date changes; I don't know. So far this year they bought 3 or 4 at the August Blooded Horse Sale and 12 at the Ohio Selected Jug Sale last week. They buy mostly cheaper horses and race them at fairs. Wonder where the money comes from.
The D.O.B. games went out the window more than a decade ago at least! With the onset of DNA testing on foals and the data based records, it would not even be a Longshot! In current times that type of activity would be foolish to attempt such a preposterous scheme! ngc3 ngc3 SMH
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The D.O.B. games went out the window more than a decade ago at least! With the onset of DNA testing on foals and the data based records, it would not even be a Longshot! In current times that type of activity would be foolish to attempt such a preposterous scheme! ngc3 ngc3 SMH
Fair enuf Ralph Sherman goes back 30 years plus. Was just suggesting how they could get 30 starts out of babies. How DO they do it?
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Two Clegg 2 year old racing for their 6th time in Sptember
Race 3 Del In His Time...Including a race yesterday. 5th race this week alone
Race 13 Race 13 Risky Rider same as above. 20th race this year.
Let's see a thoroughbred race 5 times in 3 weeks.
Not sure if this is abuse or a testament to the durability of the standard bred?
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You guys dont believe this? Are you serious? I don't make stuff up and many of you compliment my posts. I know for a fact that he held back his babies to race horses vs those a year younger and he STOLE thousands that way and was tossed from the business. i only brought this up because of the Betty Clegg thing and the possible similarity. How else do 2 year olds start racing early April and race 30 times with out coming completely apart. he and his wife may be wonderful people off track and he may have died tragically, but he did what he did.
Oh yeah, good people. Fucking morons in this industry and their belief in "good people". Jesus, how trailer and criminal and ill bred do you have to be to accept this as "good people"? Fuck him and glad he died horribly. Best news I've heard. Stop forgiving SHIT BEHAVIOR!
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Two Clegg 2 year old racing for their 6th time in Sptember
Race 3 Del In His Time...Including a race yesterday. 5th race this week alone
Race 13 Race 13 Risky Rider same as above. 20th race this year.
Let's see a thoroughbred race 5 times in 3 weeks.
Not sure if this is abuse or a testament to the durability of the standard bred?
In his time raced yesterday at Ashland fair, today in a fair race in Delaware and Thursday in Buckeye Stallion Series at Delaware. I'm sure he might not be the only one, lol.
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In His Time Just ran second in the third. Lost to a horse winning it's ninth in a row.
In his Time in the $$ 14-21 LT
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Wonder where the money comes from.
THATS EASY. ASK RENE ALLARD........... .............
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Two Clegg 2 year old racing for their 6th time in Sptember
Race 3 Del In His Time...Including a race yesterday. 5th race this week alone
Race 13 Race 13 Risky Rider same as above. 20th race this year.
Let's see a thoroughbred race 5 times in 3 weeks.
Not sure if this is abuse or a testament to the durability of the standard bred?
SOUNDS LIKE ANIMAL ABUSE. DON'T LET SCM GET WIND OF THIS OR CLEGG WILL BE RUNNING FOR COVER. LMAO
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THATS EASY. ASK RENE ALLARD........... .............
Bingo!!
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The D.O.B. games went out the window more than a decade ago at least! With the onset of DNA testing on foals and the data based records, it would not even be a Longshot! In current times that type of activity would be foolish to attempt such a preposterous scheme! ngc3 ngc3 SMH
Right LOL no way you can do it now, ngc3 ngc3
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NICK ISNT ANYWHERE NEAR THE HORSEMAN THAT BANCA AND ALLARD ARE. HE IS JUST THEIR PUPPET BOY. MAKES GOOD MONEY BEING THEIR GOFER SO WHY NOT I GUESS
Although 🤔🤔🤔, he's not in jail or barred so one would think, he's smarter then they are? Hmmm
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Two Clegg 2 year old racing for their 6th time in Sptember
Race 3 Del In His Time...Including a race yesterday. 5th race this week alone
Race 13 Race 13 Risky Rider same as above. 20th race this year.
Let's see a thoroughbred race 5 times in 3 weeks.
Not sure if this is abuse or a testament to the durability of the standard bred?
Durability, T-Breds hardly race a whole year straight before they break down, plus if you were there in person you would see they don't race them hard