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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: hot2trot on October 27, 2023, 11:20:40 AM
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they arent even appealing anymore. why bother if you arent getting days?
BURKE, RONALD J CANONSBURG, PA YOB 1969
Nfld on 6/25/2023 FINED: $500
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
Blood sample #914213 collected at Northfield Park on 6/25/23 from the gelding Saulsbrook
Genesis was found to contain Altrenogest. On 10/18/23 Mr. Burke had a telephonic hearing
with the judges. All purse money must be returned for redistribution ($10,000.00). He and is
hereby fined $1000. The penalty will be reduced to a fine of $500 if not appealed. O.S.R.C.-
3769-18-01(B)(10)&(13) 18-02 18-99 The fine must be paid and purse returned by
SVANSTEDT, AKE WRIGHTSTOWN, NJ YOB 1958
Mea on 5/21/2022 FINED: $1,000
HORSE DISQUALIFIED - PLACED 9, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
PA Code Title 7- 401.2(a)(1) 401.3(a) 401.3(b) 401.45 401.46 401.41(b) 203.22(a)
203.22(b) 401.41(e) (4) 401.41(e)(10) 410.41(f) Mr. Svanstedt was the trainer of the horse
BAPTISM for the 11th race on May 21, 2022 at The Meadows. Blood and urine samples
collected (post-race) from BAPTISM were tested and found to contain PHENYTOIN. Split
samples were tested by The Texas A&M Veterinary Medical Diagnostic Laborotory and the
presence of PHENYTOIN was confirmed. As the trainer Mr. Svanstedt is responsible for the
positive test. BAPTISM finished first but has been disqualified. Purse money earned
($10,000) must be returned within ten days of this ruling. Mr. Svanstedt is fined $1,000
(fines are due within ten days of ruling) and has waived his hearing and appeal rights.
Mitigating factors were considered in the determination of this penalty.
YORK, MITCHELL L CRANBERRY, PA YOB 1971
Mea on 7/29/2023 FINED: $1,500
HORSE DISQUALIFIED - PLACED 6, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
PA Code Title 7-203.22(a) 203.22(b) 401.2(a)(1) 401.2(a)(3)(i) 401.3(a) 401.3(b) 401.45
403.16(b) 403.16(c) 401.41(e)(6) Mr. York was the trainer of the horse ROSE RUN ZEKE
for the 9th race on July 29, 2023 at The Meadows. Blood samples drawn (post-race) from
ROSE RUN ZEKE were tested and found to contain Lamotrigine. As the trainer Mr. York is
responsible for the positive test. However, evidence has been presented to show that there
is a reasonable chance that this positive was a result of environmental contamination. This
does not excuse Mr. York from responsibility for the positive test, as he is responsible for
protecting the horse from such exposure, but it was considered a mitigating factor in
determining the penalty. ROSE RUN ZEKE finished 1st in The Meadows’ 9th race on July
29, 2023, but is disqualified. Purse money earned ($10,174) must be returned within ten
days of this ruling. Mr. York is fined $1,500 (
WEAVER, ROSY E BEACH CITY, OH YOB 1986
Pauld on 6/13/2023 FINED: $500
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
Blood sample #902440 collected at the Paulding County Fair on 6/13/23 from the horse
Eckert Hill Carrie was found to contain dexamethasone at a concentration of 51+-4
picograms per milliliter of plasma. This exceeds the Regulatory Threshold of 5 picograms
per milliliter adopted by the OSRC. Ms. Weaver appeared for a hearing with the judges on
10/18/23. All purse money must be returned for redistribution ($1,630.00). She is hereby
fined $1000. The penalty will be reduced to a fine of $500 if not appealed. O.S.R.C.-3769-
18-01(B)(10)&(13) 18-02 18-99 The fine has been paid and the purse money has been
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You got that right! A guy that has a mom and pop operation would be suspended immediately and everything in to go would be scratched! USTA & the State commissions should operate under A.K.C. AssKissersCentral! This entire situation stinks more than Gung Ho!
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When did York and Weaver become “big” trainers??
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They take blood at county fairs?
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They take blood at county fairs?
In a lot of states they do Not usually every fair the state shows up randomly most places
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Altrenogest:
synthetic progestin, is used extensively in the reproductive management of mares to control the reproductive cycle, help maintain pregnancy, and help with behavior modification.
So why are you allowing this to be used on a gelding? What can it do for a colt?
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Altrenogest:
synthetic progestin, is used extensively in the reproductive management of mares to control the reproductive cycle, help maintain pregnancy, and help with behavior modification.
So why are you allowing this to be used on a gelding? What can it do for a colt?
It’s regumate
Someone probably accidentally gave it to the wrong horse
Pretty hard to mess that up , but when you have so many horses, oh well
Provides ZERO performance enhancement to a gelding and does literally nothing for all the horseplop expert trainers and veterinarians out there
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Ake given a fine and no days for Dilantin? What the fuc are you doing giving a horse anti-seizure/ Epilepsy meds? Let me guess another mix up? AND WHO PRESCRIBE IT?
Racing commissions prove what's wrong with Harness racing every day!
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its just a reflection of society rich pay fines poor go to jail
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It’s regumate
Someone probably accidentally gave it to the wrong horse
Pretty hard to mess that up , but when you have so many horses, oh well
Provides ZERO performance enhancement to a gelding and does literally nothing for all the horseplop expert trainers and veterinarians out there
i Know a few who would disagree with you.
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Ake given a fine and no days for Dilantin? What the fuc are doing giving a horse anti-seizure/ Epilepsy meds? Let me guess another mix up?
Racing commissions prove what's wrong with Harness racing every day!
That is Dantrolene sodium and used for treating tie up
Most places I dealt with have 72hr rule on that
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i Know a few who would disagree with you.
They can disagree all they want
It’s true
It’s a hormone and doesn’t make horses go faster
In fact, most the medications tested for don’t provide any performance enhancing abilities like people seem to think!believe it or not
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It’s regumate
Someone probably accidentally gave it to the wrong horse
Pretty hard to mess that up , but when you have so many horses, oh well
Provides ZERO performance enhancement to a gelding and does literally nothing for all the horseplop expert trainers and veterinarians out there
Can tell you never trained one OR you know absolutely nothing about chemistry?
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Regumate is for mares that are "cycling".
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They can disagree all they want
It’s true
It’s a hormone and doesn’t make horses go faster
In fact, most the medications tested for don’t provide any performance enhancing abilities like people seem to think!believe it or not
beg to differ.
Had quite a few we used equipoise on the geldings and - it could light one up.
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It’s regumate
Someone probably accidentally gave it to the wrong horse
Pretty hard to mess that up , but when you have so many horses, oh well
Provides ZERO performance enhancement to a gelding and does literally nothing for all the horseplop expert trainers and veterinarians out there
Let me be clearer, Regumate for mares cycling supresses estrus. These guys must be waaay sharper than I ever was cause I never heard of giving it to a gelding or any male horse for that matter.
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It's been used on geldings for a long time. Here is a quote from this forum three years ago concerning it
Most of us use Regumate on our mares and in the middle of last year, several people were fined for progesterone (from Regumate) at the Meadows. They are calling it when it is discovered in Geldings or Horses because it is known to have a calming effect.
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Gotcha. Yeah, I never fooled with progesterone in male horses. Calming is a nice way of saying it made them dull and I wasn't interested in doing that.
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It's been used on geldings for a long time. Here is a quote from this forum three years ago concerning it
Most of us use Regumate on our mares and in the middle of last year, several people were fined for progesterone (from Regumate) at the Meadows. They are calling it when it is discovered in Geldings or Horses because it is known to have a calming effect.
Just because a vet claims it does something it’s not intended to do doesn’t mean it works
You would all be surprised how many times vets are incorrect
Vets aren’t the ones putting bridles on a horse every single day
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Female hormones have been used to relax high-strung geldings, so they're more controllable during a race. I've never heard of the hormone having the same effect on an intact male horse.
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Gotcha. Yeah, I never fooled with progesterone in male horses. Calming is a nice way of saying it made them dull and I wasn't interested in doing that.
Used it lots on sour geldings. It seemed to make them happier. Especially if the came out a barn that used lots of Winstol and Equipoise.
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Raced better and didn’t need a whip and a chair to go in stall
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That is Dantrolene sodium and used for treating tie up
Most places I dealt with have 72hr rule on that
WRONG: Dilantin and dantrolene both begin with a D… that’s it lol. Check your facts.
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WRONG: Dilantin and dantrolene both begin with a D… that’s it lol. Check your facts.
Thanks I was just getting ready to post about that. Some of these guys don’t seem to understand you can learn a lot from a simple google search
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Used it lots on sour geldings. It seemed to make them happier. Especially if the came out a barn that used lots of Winstol and Equipoise.
Very true.
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Altrenogest:
synthetic progestin, is used extensively in the reproductive management of mares to control the reproductive cycle, help maintain pregnancy, and help with behavior modification.
So why are you allowing this to be used on a gelding? What can it do for a colt?
OH Kirby! As you may or may not have known there was a product for mares called Regumate that was banned from use in male horses due to the increased performance in geldings! This was not only being used in racing applications, it was also used in Polo and Barrell racing ang the likes. When a substance that works is outlawed, prior users look for a substitute. There have been a few other positives in male horses with female hormone type products since they implemented the ban in males.
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It’s regumate
Someone probably accidentally gave it to the wrong horse
Pretty hard to mess that up , but when you have so many horses, oh well
Provides ZERO performance enhancement to a gelding and does literally nothing for all the horseplop expert trainers and veterinarians out there
if thats true why did it become BANNED?
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add BRIAN BROWN to this weeks list---if he was a small guy he would have got the book thrown at him. not even a fine fucken joke
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beg to differ.
Had quite a few we used equipoise on the geldings and - it could light one up.
Always used Equipise on geldings too before it was banned and yes it did!
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Equipoise on geldings yes. Regumate, no.. But that was just me....
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Loved a little equipoise is a sour stud, just never over did it. Liquid testosterone was always a fun thing.