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Title: Something may be up...........
Post by: Six Pence on November 24, 2023, 10:32:22 AM
Word around the Dover paddock the last couple of weeks is that a new list is coming out with perhaps
90 names on it.  That's all I know about it but considering the source, it bears watching.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 24, 2023, 02:12:50 PM
Word around the Dover paddock the last couple of weeks is that a new list is coming out with perhaps
90 names on it.  That's all I know about it but considering the source, it bears watching.
I heard the FBI has already contacted several trainers to schedule interviews. You know what they say, the first ones to talk usually get a deal.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: carl baldwin on November 24, 2023, 02:22:16 PM
The federal false statements statute, 18 USC § 1001, makes it a felony to lie to a federal agency. ' Since the enactment of its pred- ecessor in 1934,2 § 1001 has been used to prosecute a wide variety of defendants.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 24, 2023, 02:30:06 PM
The federal false statements statute, 18 USC § 1001, makes it a felony to lie to a federal agency. ' Since the enactment of its pred- ecessor in 1934,2 § 1001 has been used to prosecute a wide variety of defendants.
Correct.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Kirbys Ace on November 24, 2023, 05:21:34 PM
Horsemen don't lie!
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on November 24, 2023, 05:43:36 PM
Word around the Dover paddock the last couple of weeks is that a new list is coming out with perhaps
90 names on it.  That's all I know about it but considering the source, it bears watching.

Who's the source?
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Parked on November 24, 2023, 05:52:31 PM
I hope to see some owners names.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Generation XYZ on November 24, 2023, 05:55:05 PM
I hope to see some owners names.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Howard Taylor again...
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Kirbys Ace on November 24, 2023, 07:25:13 PM
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Howard Taylor again...

Probably Fishman's client list that has been published before.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Balmoral buzz on November 24, 2023, 07:27:35 PM
Erv, Andy and Julie and Tyler George.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: seen2much on November 24, 2023, 09:51:22 PM
It will be interesting if there is another list. Will Burke finally be on it? How about Pelling, Takter, Toscano, Miller, Alexander, Cleary, & who else?
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Low Groove on November 24, 2023, 10:33:52 PM
Nothing will happen.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 25, 2023, 02:37:20 AM
It will be interesting if there is another list. Will Burke finally be on it? How about Pelling, Takter, Toscano, Miller, Alexander, Cleary, & who else?
Bako
Engblom
Rhoades
Virgil
Daquet
Brandstetter
Beckwith

Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on November 25, 2023, 03:27:00 AM
What about the King of Drugs himself Tony Morgan?  No one sells more shit that old TM. 
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Way to go on November 25, 2023, 02:46:46 PM
Mr. Morgan does other things........ surgeries(example:LUELLEN throat surgery),tax fraud,money laundering,He is like the SICILIAN MAFIA......be careful or you will get your tires slashed if you cross him.......
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Way to go on November 25, 2023, 11:53:54 PM
No response to the truth ????????    11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Harness racer on November 26, 2023, 06:17:31 AM
Dylan is on the list and won't be welcome at the BigM at some point and just wins the Progress Pace at Dover.  Does the list even mean anything?  Why would Gural let them race through November?  That's just crazy to me.  And I doubt Delaware will do anything to anyone, never do.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: CMJAnew on November 26, 2023, 06:24:58 AM
Dylan is on the list and won't be welcome at the BigM at some point and just wins the Progress Pace at Dover.  Does the list even mean anything?  Why would Gural let them race through November?  That's just crazy to me.  And I doubt Delaware will do anything to anyone, never do.

This question was answered in Gural's original press release on the subject.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Harness racer on November 26, 2023, 06:32:52 AM
I read that and it's complete bullshit.  My question is why would that be considered an ok option?  Let them race?  Let the owners find a new trainer or partners?  They are in on it!  Several owners names are on the list!  Just a fucking excuse and no consequences!
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Parked on November 26, 2023, 07:40:18 AM
I think they have come a long ways in a year or so. Is racing clean yet. NO..  Look at the positives every week and I think those are just some of them. IF they keep coming out with names it will continue to help as many people just don’t want to be associated with the dopers past or present. 
A big step would be if the state commissions started giving more days and stop cutting fines and suspensions in half if not appealed. 
The use of appeals and beards is what allows  the dopers to continue..and flourish
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: CMJAnew on November 26, 2023, 04:42:15 PM
I read that and it's complete bullshit.  My question is why would that be considered an ok option?  Let them race?  Let the owners find a new trainer or partners?  They are in on it!  Several owners names are on the list!  Just a fucking excuse and no consequences!

And if he didn't allow them to race through the end of stakes season, some would say;he kicked them out so he and Ake would win all the finals.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: SportsmansP5/8 on November 27, 2023, 01:30:48 AM
Mr. Morgan does other things........ surgeries(example:LUELLEN throat surgery),tax fraud,money laundering,He is like the SICILIAN MAFIA......be careful or you will get your tires slashed if you cross him.......
Morgan has done alot worse he was the one that turned in boom boom an got him a lifetime ban
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Way to go on November 27, 2023, 06:33:36 AM
Please explain.......... ...............
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Harness racer on November 27, 2023, 07:24:34 AM
And if he didn't allow them to race through the end of stakes season, some would say;he kicked them out so he and Ake would win all the finals.

Who gives a fuck what people think?  That's like letting a murderer out on bail and being surprised when he does it again!  These fucks just keep cheating until they get the boot.
Title: Re: Something may be up...........
Post by: Parked on November 27, 2023, 07:33:37 AM
Who gives a fuck what people think?  That's like letting a murderer out on bail and being surprised when he does it again!  These fucks just keep cheating until they get the boot.
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