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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: MIKE CAMPBELL on November 25, 2023, 02:52:17 PM
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If Case was such a talent, shouldn't he be doing better than he is? How can this supposed legend not even be top 5 in fucking Maine?
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Can’t get licensed anywhere else
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Can’t get licensed anywhere else
That wasn't the point
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He's 60 yo or so?
Probably a case of Father Time.
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62 or 63.
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the man had his demons but he could get one to go. easily one of the best ever
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He's 60 yo or so?
Probably a case of Father Time.
At first, I thought the same thing but the leader up there in Maine is Bruce Ranger and he is older than Case. You then have guys like Hennessey and Dave Miller who are as old or older and they are doing fine. My buddy says it was the coke. Without it, he was average. Who the fuck knows.
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He does not go for the lead that much there and when he does he gets his wins but I would have thought he could dominate there, even now.
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62 or 63.
David Miller (born December 10, 1964) is an American harness racing driver and trainer. He is 58 and will turn 59 next month.
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Ill bet if JC came out of retirement, he would be at least leading driver in Maine.
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Case does NOT lean back any longer either in the sulky like he did in his heydays at Yonkers. He looks more like the 1960s-1970s drivers in the bike now.
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the man had his demons but he could get one to go. easily one of the best ever
Easily??? then why isnt he, if its sooooo eaassssy??? Stupid statement.
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Easily??? then why isnt he, if its sooooo eaassssy??? Stupid statement.
Exactly. tmbz1 tmbz1
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Like a lot of 'GREAT'[He 'WAS' one] athletes [yes, I feel they're athletes] they stick around too long. Most out of vanity. In his 'case'[pardon the pun] I think it's more out of necessity.
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He had been warned. Drop the boot you get the boot
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He had been warned. Drop the boot you get the boot
So he needed to cheat to win which tells me he wasn't one of the best drivers ever.
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Tell that to Tom Brady ;D
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So he needed to cheat to win which tells me he wasn't one of the best drivers ever.
He learned the value of catching a hock instead of slashing with whip long before many others
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There is a reason he has over $1000 fines for it
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I think he was way overated. I can name at least 25 drivers in my opinion that were better than him and yet I hear some people say they never saw anyone better and I just don't agree. Of course it's all subjective and there is no way to prove who is/was the greatest but like I said, I don't think he is close.
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gen z you moron. the guy went to prison then couldnt get licensed. the man made luc oulette his bitch for years.he was the leading driver in the country for years. drugs will put a toll on your body.
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gen z you moron. the guy went to prison then couldnt get licensed. the man made luc oulette his bitch for years.he was the leading driver in the country for years. drugs will put a toll on your body.
At M1, Campbell and O'Donnell made Case their bitch. FACT!!
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im sorry wasnt that case on cambest? i never said whether he was better then cambell or odonnell.
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I believe Dave Rankin drove Cambest mostly at least.
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im sorry wasnt that case on cambest? i never said whether he was better then cambell or odonnell.
I’m getting old but don’t remember Case driving Cambest
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well all i know is he won with cambest and left the meds without taking a piss test and got a 30 day suspension after that
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Ok I’ll admit I’m old. Just looked and Walter win 14 races with him. Which 1 you talking about ??
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That must have been when Cambest was older or he exchanged hands, because i 'KNOW' Rankin drove him at Nfld in Cleveland Classic vs Precious Bunny + Artsplace as a 3 yr old.
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Have you keyboard junkies ever been behind a horse? Do you really think that Walter is getting the power he used to get at Yonkers? Walter is getting so - so horses and still winning races. I find it funny that some of you have never been behind a horse and have these idiotic statements. If Walter was back at Yonkers (even today) he would hold his own. Class B tracks is no gage for his talent.
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At 67yo Wally can still drive with the best
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i believe it was the presidential series.it was the beginning of the end of case. he left to get back to yonkers and didnt take a piss test and then copped an attitude and told them he was the leading driver in the country he didnt need to take no test and got suspended.i belive cambest was 5 or maybe 4
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At 67yo Wally can still drive with the best
Case was born 03/05/1961. He is 62.
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im sorry wasnt that case on cambest? i never said whether he was better then cambell or odonnell.
No one said you did but you make it sound that making Luc your bitch is impressive. Oulette is another overated driver that couldn't control his partying.
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Personally I could care less if Case ever wins another race. He abused horse after horse with his boots. He almost murdered his then wife. He did enough coke to be in the Cocaine Hall of Fame. Just another model citizen in the world of harness racing.
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i believe it was the presidential series.it was the beginning of the end of case. he left to get back to yonkers and didnt take a piss test and then copped an attitude and told them he was the leading driver in the country he didnt need to take no test and got suspended.i belive cambest was 5 or maybe 4
this is accurate..he literally ran back to the helicopter to fly back to Yonkers later that night
avoided piss test--NJ was pissed
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Many big name trainers have told me that Walter was incredible with the horse.
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Easily??? then why isnt he, if its sooooo eaassssy??? Stupid statement.
I think your statement is even stupider the guy said he was one of the best which he was if you don't think so your even dumber than I could ever give you credit for
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I think your statement is even stupider the guy said he was one of the best which he was if you don't think so your even dumber than I could ever give you credit for
The Best are in a little building called the hall of fame, ASSHOLE!. Read about it, learn about it, visit it, and shut the fuck up you no account idiot. FYI: WALTER CASE isnt in the hall of fame, Dickhead.
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Personally I could care less if Case ever wins another race. He abused horse after horse with his boots. He almost murdered his then wife. He did enough coke to be in the Cocaine Hall of Fame. Just another model citizen in the world of harness racing.
none of the shit you have stated is relevant to how good he was big deal his foot would slip out of a stir up from time to time and almost killed a bitch he didn't kill her and he did his time so let's move on
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The Best are in a little building called the hall of fame, ASSHOLE!. Read about it, learn about it, visit it, and shut the fuck up you no account idiot. FYI: WALTER CASE isnt in the hall of fame, Dickhead.
so you don't think he belongs in that little building which I have been to sometimes just like in other sports people don't get in because of other reasons besides ability so go back to hitting your pipe crackhead
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so you don't think he belongs in that little building which I have been to sometimes just like in other sports people don't get in because of other reasons besides ability so go back to hitting your pipe crackhead
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 What an irrelevant dildo you are. If I had to guess your masquerading again under a new assumed screen name, the the snake you are.
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Wildbill, I askyou. How far reaching is this 'WISEOWL' training program? ngc3 No seriously. Nice effort tmbz1 tmbz1
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He's a shell of himself physically which has put major limits on his previous talents. Look at Dave Miller and Ranger. Both are in great shape for thier age. Not the situation with Case.
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ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 What an irrelevant dildo you are. If I had to guess your masquerading again under a new assumed screen name, the the snake you are.
irrelevant my ass bitch you have no fucking clue who I am but your mama does as I'm stuffing that dildo in one hole and myself in the other she's a nasty whore who loves to be dp and to only difference between her and a rooster is the roots says cockadoodledoo and she says any cock will do hahahahaha bitch keep guessing who I am
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Wildbill, I askyou. How far reaching is this 'WISEOWL' training program? ngc3 No seriously. Nice effort tmbz1 tmbz1
wish I knew what the fuck you are talking about but than again you don't even want what you are talking about
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Wildbull. To break down in simpler terms for you [obviously needed] Wiseowl is another fine contestant on here like yourself that has no sense of sentence structure or punctuation. But as I said, working with your obvious deficiencies, NICE EFFORT. ngc3 11.wp
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Just more of people who know and people who have no idea. Dave Rankin drove Cambest for Dan Altmeyer unti Altmyer sold him. Then Case got on him. I'll let whoever wants to figure out the trainer and why the trainer picked Case. As far as Case, if you know anything about harness racing and how to really rate a driver, other than being an after dinner speaker, then you would admire and respect his talent, ability, skills, and so on. He rated at the top in every category as a driver. It was obviously his personal, mental, off the track, demons, whatever you want to call it that ruined his career.
As far as today, I doubt anybody here knows him, talks to him, and if you don't, then you don't have the capacity to understand. Today, he's still a broken man and trying to figure out how to put the pieces back together. Not so he can drive, but so he can live. I hope none of you have to figure that out.
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Just more of people who know and people who have no idea. Dave Rankin drove Cambest for Dan Altmeyer unti Altmyer sold him. Then Case got on him. I'll let whoever wants to figure out the trainer and why the trainer picked Case. As far as Case, if you know anything about harness racing and how to really rate a driver, other than being an after dinner speaker, then you would admire and respect his talent, ability, skills, and so on. He rated at the top in every category as a driver. It was obviously his personal, mental, off the track, demons, whatever you want to call it that ruined his career.
As far as today, I doubt anybody here knows him, talks to him, and if you don't, then you don't have the capacity to understand. Today, he's still a broken man and trying to figure out how to put the pieces back together. Not so he can drive, but so he can live. I hope none of you have to figure that out.
Fuck him!! He was a low life drug addict and a woman abuser. They should put in jail the people responsible for letting him drive again.
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Just more of people who know and people who have no idea. Dave Rankin drove Cambest for Dan Altmeyer unti Altmyer sold him. Then Case got on him. I'll let whoever wants to figure out the trainer and why the trainer picked Case. As far as Case, if you know anything about harness racing and how to really rate a driver, other than being an after dinner speaker, then you would admire and respect his talent, ability, skills, and so on. He rated at the top in every category as a driver. It was obviously his personal, mental, off the track, demons, whatever you want to call it that ruined his career.
As far as today, I doubt anybody here knows him, talks to him, and if you don't, then you don't have the capacity to understand. Today, he's still a broken man and trying to figure out how to put the pieces back together. Not so he can drive, but so he can live. I hope none of you have to figure that out.
Well said sir. Walter is a hall of famer. He will never get there because of his off track problems.
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Well said sir. Walter is a hall of famer. He will never get there because of his off track problems.
He isn't a hall of famer because he wasn't good enough. There are plenty of drivers not in the HOF with better stats than him.
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He isn't a hall of famer because he wasn't good enough. There are plenty of drivers not in the HOF with better stats than him.
I am only giving my opinion Mike. We can agree not to agree. Thanks
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I am only giving my opinion Mike. We can agree not to agree. Thanks
tmbz1 tmbz1
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He isn't a hall of famer because he wasn't good enough. There are plenty of drivers not in the HOF with better stats than him.
with a comment like this you should really think about rehab crack is whack put down the pipe while you are behind dummy
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with a comment like this you should really think about rehab crack is whack put down the pipe while you are behind dummy
Is English your first language?
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Case could possibly have become the best ever, with all due respect to Campbell fans, had he not been consumed by his "issues". Never saw a driver pick one up more than Case first time out. He just showed up everywhere and won. Now....he may just be happy to be there.
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Case could possibly have become the best ever, with all due respect to Campbell fans, had he not been consumed by his "issues". Never saw a driver pick one up more than Case first time out. He just showed up everywhere and won. Now....he may just be happy to be there.
Maybe my memory is shot. I remember him coming to the Meadowlands and he was not even top 5.
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I doubt your memory is shot. It may have been a lot more difficult in those days to step right in and get live drives at the top track. Nowadays, any 22-year old showing promise gets many more opportunities, at multiple tracks.
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I doubt your memory is shot. It may have been a lot more difficult in those days to step right in and get live drives at the top track. Nowadays, any 22-year old showing promise gets many more opportunities, at multiple tracks.
Don't doubt it. It's shot, or possibly stupidity. Case was in the top 5 more than once (at least twice, and I just can't rememember if it was three times). He was also in the top 10 the next year (and missed time with an injury). Now, if anyone wants to put their money where their loud mouth is, I'll gladly take that action and bet on the twice. Too bad we are not at the track and people puffing up their chest would be more than willing to throw their money around, if they have any. But, we are stuck surfing the internet to check rumors and innuendos, LOL.
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Don't doubt it. It's shot, or possibly stupidity. Case was in the top 5 more than once (at least twice, and I just can't rememember if it was three times). He was also in the top 10 the next year (and missed time with an injury). Now, if anyone wants to put their money where their loud mouth is, I'll gladly take that action and bet on the twice. Too bad we are not at the track and people puffing up their chest would be more than willing to throw their money around, if they have any. But, we are stuck surfing the internet to check rumors and innuendos, LOL.
So prove it big mouth, oh wait, we are supposed to just take your word for it.
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So prove it big mouth, oh wait, we are supposed to just take your word for it.
No problem...put your money up and we'll see who the big mouth is. If you don't, you proved my point. Post money with the race office. I'll do the same. Please, do it. Please let me take your money. Then you go pull your pants down and get a tape measure.
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No problem...put your money up and we'll see who the big mouth is. If you don't, you proved my point. Post money with the race office. I'll do the same. Please, do it. Please let me take your money. Then you go pull your pants down and get a tape measure.
Race office?
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Race office?
Absolutely, at the Meadowlands. Scott's office.
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Absolutely, at the Meadowlands. Scott's office.
I'll find the proof and expose you for the imbecile you are. You can keep your money, as it sounds like you need it to buy lube for all the dicks you take up the ass.
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I'll find the proof and expose you for the imbecile you are. You can keep your money, as it sounds like you need it to buy lube for all the dicks you take up the ass.
Just what I thought. Now you simply resort to name-calling and insults.
By the way, here's your proof...which unfortunately exposes you...download it...and if you weren't such a punk, you'd made a donation to horse-related charity with the money you would have lost.
1986 and 1987...Walter Case was in the Top 5 at the Meadowlands
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/5352346/top-drivers-by-year-meadowlands-racetrack
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I'll find the proof and expose you for the imbecile you are. You can keep your money, as it sounds like you need it to buy lube for all the dicks you take up the ass.
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 :1
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I'll find the proof and expose you for the imbecile you are. You can keep your money, as it sounds like you need it to buy lube for all the dicks you take up the ass.
Maybe you can hire OJ Simpson to get you some proof. As far as Case is concerned, he could have NEVER been the best ever because he obviously had ZERO discipline in his life. Years of abuse and mistakes make a 60 plus year old an absolute nobody in an absolute C/D track environment thirty years later.
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Just what I thought. Now you simply resort to name-calling and insults.
By the way, here's your proof...which unfortunately exposes you...download it...and if you weren't such a punk, you'd made a donation to horse-related charity with the money you would have lost.
1986 and 1987...Walter Case was in the Top 5 at the Meadowlands
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/5352346/top-drivers-by-year-meadowlands-racetrack
You attacked me first and yet I'm the punk. I originally posted that my memory was shot and I couldn't remember if he was ever top 5. Being the douche bag that you so obviously are, you responded with ridicule. You can shove those standings right up your ass. You're a LOSER.
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Maybe you can hire OJ Simpson to get you some proof. As far as Case is concerned, he could have NEVER been the best ever because he obviously had ZERO discipline in his life. Years of abuse and mistakes make a 60 plus year old an absolute nobody in an absolute C/D track environment thirty years later.
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No problem...put your money up and we'll see who the big mouth is. If you don't, you proved my point. Post money with the race office. I'll do the same. Please, do it. Please let me take your money. Then you go pull your pants down and get a tape measure.
now come on you know damn well that pile of shit ain't got any money to put up he's a broken down asshole that has nothing better to do than post stupid shit about people so what case wasn't perfect but to say he wasn't a top guy in his day is just plain retarded
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Case does NOT lean back any longer either in the sulky like he did in his heydays at Yonkers. He looks more like the 1960s-1970s drivers in the bike now.
I would have to disagree boss they get old they loose there nerve an loose there hands seen it to the best of them,,,, but walter was ince a bad man he was a true takent but couldnt be trusted i still remember when he stiffed anniceombie at hawthorne sn owners never brought him back sgsin but that was along time ago bsck when psisley was complaining about a rookie named dave mageee lol..
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I live in Maine and have known of Casey' for years. For many years, he was one of the top drivers in the USA. One of the best i've ever seen on a 1/2 mile track. His "time away" for almost a decade ruined one of the most promising careers in our great sport. He is sadly far from what he once was. He's almost 60 now, and just driving here at Cumberland, Bangor, and the Maine fair circuit. No other jurisdiction will license him other than Maine. Casey knows he made some horrible mistakes. He's stilll got a great sense of humor and loves driving the mostly slow horses we all follow here in Maine.