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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Kirbys Ace on November 26, 2023, 05:17:40 PM
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Not the same anymore.
Did they ever find out what he was using when he was ruling the harness world a few years ago?
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Not the same anymore.
Did they ever find out what he was using when he was ruling the harness world a few years ago?
Real Joke doped beyond belief and poor Oliver Cleo lost his hair and never raced again after the US Pacing Championship
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Real Joke doped beyond belief and poor Oliver Cleo lost his hair and never raced again after the US Pacing Championship
I shave my balls and it hasn't inhibited my performance.
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Sweet Lou keeps a low profile compared to the old days when he would claim one and have it run off the screen the following week 11.dnc
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Not the same anymore.
Did they ever find out what he was using when he was ruling the harness world a few years ago?
It was the "Stacking" of any different products that are used to treat problems..so they say! I think that the actual agent was not made public in fear of mass application. I can tell y'all first hand that the horse I got from him was standing at the back of his stall for 13 days looking like he couldn't decide if he wanted to shit or puke! His eyes looked hollow as if he was dead! This was coming off 2 wins on the chooch back to back. Horses coming off O.T.C.meds don't act that way!
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It was the "Stacking" of any different products that are used to treat problems..so they say! I think that the actual agent was not made public in fear of mass application. I can tell y'all first hand that the horse I got from him was standing at the back of his stall for 13 days looking like he couldn't decide if he wanted to shit or puke! His eyes looked hollow as if he was dead! This was coming off 2 wins on the chooch back to back. Horses coming off O.T.C.meds don't act that way!
Did he keep winning for you?
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1st start he was 3rd. After that he was on the list for being distanced 2x. Bought for 10k and sold for 3.5k before the good miles fell of the page! They either go or they go elsewhere for me.
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Not the same anymore.
Did they ever find out what he was using when he was ruling the harness world a few years ago?
It is amazing that he was able to race for a good part of the time from the 2012 charges till the penalty was finally formalized in 2015 due to appeals etc.
Here is one discussion of what was used:
For example, the notice states that horses trained by Pena that competed in 632 races at Yonkers or Saratoga Raceway had been administered glycopyrrolate, a common anti-ulcer drug, within 96 hours of the races. The notice also said that Pena had administered methocarbomol, a muscle relaxant, within 72 hours of post to horses that had competed in 639 races.
Here is another:
He has been suspended on the following 15 charges:
1) Fraud and Misrepresentation .
2) Adrenocorticotrop ic (ACTH), hormone.
3) Betamethasone (Celestone), steroid.
4) Clenbuterol (Ventipulman).
5) Cromolyn Sodium, Nonsteroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drug (NSAID).
6) Fircoxib, NSAID.
7) Flumethasone, Steroid.
8) Glycopyyplate (Robinul).
9) Gonadorelin or GnRH (factrel) hormone.
10) Hyaluronic Acid derivative.
11) Joint injection of steroid (Celestone).
12) Joint injection of steroid (Cortistone).
13) Levothyroxine, hormone.
14) Methocarbamol (eg: Robaxin)
15) Magnesium Sulfate (Mag).
Note that all of this was a function of information taken from vetinary records and NOT from specific positive tests. If you scroll down to page 4 on this link you will find all the details:
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/services/files/EB5F48E8-4629-4240-94D6-42D35FF135FE
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https://www.msek.com/news/the-pena-hearing-day-two-state-paints-drugs-pena-allegedly-used-as-performance-enhancers
notice anything?
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Horses that have their hair fall out is a symptom of withdrawal off a drug. I know of a trainer who had this happen after claiming off Gassie Coleman . Speculation was they were putting fentanyl patches on underneath their tail.
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It's really a shame the way they treat this poor guy he was just better than everyone people couldn't hang it so they started making shit up about him in my eyes I feel they went after him because he was Mexican the guy never hurt anyone just trying to make a living and live the life of a rockstar long live the king
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Horses that have their hair fall out is a symptom of withdrawal off a drug. I know of a trainer who had this happen after claiming off Gassie Coleman . Speculation was they were putting fentanyl patches on underneath their tail.
EPO used to do the same thing
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Horses that have their hair fall out is a symptom of withdrawal off a drug. I know of a trainer who had this happen after claiming off Gassie Coleman . Speculation was they were putting fentanyl patches on underneath their tail.
It wasn't fentanyl patches, it was fentanyl suppositories. Just typing those words makes me sick. What a fucking business.
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Organized crime wasn't that creative
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It wasn't yogurt?
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Lou Pena's go to enhancer was frog juice.
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My friend at WindGap says Lou is taking it easy, enjoying life, and having a cocktail or two for pleasure.
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It wasn't fentanyl patches, it was fentanyl suppositories. Just typing those words makes me sick. What a fucking business.
Agree…What business? More like a fucking joke! Sad
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Agree…What business? More like a fucking joke! Sad
It is a joke. SCM said your heroes allowed sales and distribution on their property? Care to weigh in on that?
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whats funny is you guys thinking lou wasnt a beard.lou couldnt train a cat to shit in a litter box
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Didn't Lou train for Howard Taylor?
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whats funny is you guys thinking lou wasnt a beard.lou couldnt train a cat to shit in a litter box
Wasn't there a vet from Cali supplyin the juice Steven sumthinorother.
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Who was he a beard for.
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Wasn't there a vet from Cali supplyin the juice Steven sumthinorother.
Exactly right. Name is wrong but it was a guy from Cali
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Exactly right. Name is wrong but it was a guy from Cali
Slender
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you guys are clueless. it wasnt a vet.