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Title: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on November 28, 2023, 08:36:22 AM
Charlie Lockhart gone......

Who runs the place   ??????
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Jackie Mo on November 28, 2023, 09:23:02 AM
unfortunately--Hensley, who is a pompous ass

Lockhardt milked his huge salary for years and did very little
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on November 28, 2023, 10:26:54 AM
Hensley is now Executive Director of DSOA
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on November 28, 2023, 10:30:03 AM
Hensley is now Executive Director of DSOA

That title doesn't mean shit. What exactly is his duties as "Executive Director"? Other than collecting insurance payments and kissing Bally's management team's ass. And I'm sure it's a FAT salary to go with it!
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on November 28, 2023, 10:36:09 AM
186,000.... not kidding......
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on November 28, 2023, 10:55:11 AM
Just shows you how corrupt the racing program is in Delaware. You have a guy who was Director of racing for Dover Downs Managment and now He gets the boot by Bally's so the DSOA elects him to represent the horseman now! I mean you can't make this shit up! Did the DSOA members have a vote in this? And please justify how this is a $186K salary job? Who's paying his salary?

And this quote of DSOA site: "And look forward to continuing to provide the exceptional  level of service the Board, the membership, and the horsemen and women  of Delaware are accustomed to under his direction.” 

Well yeah if you didn't you were denied entries!

Must have a family member on the board or commission. Was a Charlie brown noser and did his dirty work for years! Who was a Cloverleaf Director and turned Dover Downs racing official!
Unbelievable!

We're doomed and DSOA is fast tracking it!

 
tmbz1
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on November 28, 2023, 12:09:30 PM
Any answer to original question  ???
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Jackie Mo on November 28, 2023, 04:33:38 PM
Just shows you how corrupt the racing program is in Delaware. You have a guy who was Director of racing for Dover Downs Managment and now He gets the boot by Bally's so the DSOA elects him to represent the horseman now! I mean you can't make this shit up! Did the DSOA members have a vote in this? And please justify how this is a $186K salary job? Who's paying his salary?

And this quote of DSOA site: "And look forward to continuing to provide the exceptional  level of service the Board, the membership, and the horsemen and women  of Delaware are accustomed to under his direction.” 

Well yeah if you didn't you were denied entries!

Must have a family member on the board or commission. Was a Charlie brown noser and did his dirty work for years! Who was a Cloverleaf Director and turned Dover Downs racing official!
Unbelievable!

We're doomed and DSOA is fast tracking it!

 
tmbz1

Overall, well said


Whoever Ballys booted, its justice
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on November 28, 2023, 06:30:14 PM
Who is running the joint???
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on November 28, 2023, 11:47:34 PM
Who is running the joint???

That seems to be top secret information that is unavailable on the web as to who is in charge of the horse racing aspect.
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on November 29, 2023, 07:12:23 AM
Yes....... finally an answer or not to the question at hand......hooray or not.............. ... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on November 29, 2023, 06:12:36 PM
Be nice to know if Dover will step up and follow Gural on his denied entry list. Dover has a few trainers on that list as well as Frank Chick.

But we both know they won't!
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Harness racer on November 29, 2023, 06:44:42 PM
Be nice to know if Dover will step up and follow Gural on his denied entry list. Dover has a few trainers on that list as well as Frank Chick.

But we both know they won't!

No shot!  Delaware isn't to the level of PA or Yonkers, but they won't do anything about this!
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Locked in with pace on December 01, 2023, 09:03:28 AM
Horsemen in Delaware have a great program. They have year-round racing between Dover and Harrington and have an amazing bonus program for Delaware residents ( ranges from 20-40% ) and the are very selective about who is even allowed to race there. They protect their own as well as any other state.

So what's the bitching.  I see 15 taces a day, 4 days a week with many 9-horse fields.  from cheap horses to top-class horses. Even the big-name drivers go down there on Thursdays.
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 01, 2023, 11:36:41 AM
But back to the original question!

Who's in charge?
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 01, 2023, 06:02:34 PM
Horsemen in Delaware have a great program. They have year-round racing between Dover and Harrington and have an amazing bonus program for Delaware residents ( ranges from 20-40% ) and the are very selective about who is even allowed to race there. They protect their own as well as any other state.

So what's the bitching.  I see 15 taces a day, 4 days a week with many 9-horse fields.  from cheap horses to top-class horses. Even the big-name drivers go down there on Thursdays.

So, what you're saying its ok to cheat and let know cheaters race because overall Delaware has a good harness program? Oh, excuse me they select what cheaters they want to race there. And if you're a Delaware owner who employees cheating trainers we will give you a extra 20-40% more? GTFOH!
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 02, 2023, 01:18:13 PM
Horsemen in Delaware have a great program. They have year-round racing between Dover and Harrington and have an amazing bonus program for Delaware residents ( ranges from 20-40% ) and the are very selective about who is even allowed to race there. They protect their own as well as any other state.

So what's the bitching.  I see 15 taces a day, 4 days a week with many 9-horse fields.  from cheap horses to top-class horses. Even the big-name drivers go down there on Thursdays.

the other half of the year its two days a week racing at Harrington with 8 or 9 races

they do take care of their own--kinda an inside club

they allow Tony Morgan to set up "shop" there

Ceba Horsey allowed to race there

they need horses to fill the box so some positives are overlooked just as any other jurisdiction

Dylan Davis, Josh Green, King, Teague--some of the best gas is in Delaware
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 02, 2023, 02:11:32 PM
Couple things wrong Jackie Mo. Green is gone., Has been for a while. Teague is just average now that they're testing for steroids. Always fill at least 12 to 14 a night at Harrington when racing. They race 3 days a week most weeks at Harrington. Dylan Davis is now avg considering the money he has behind him, King is a no longer a factor and hasn't been in a year or so. Ever since Fishman fiasco. The new crew are Stafford, Tyler and dear old dad and company. Glassmeyer and his pal Berry. And how the hell Horsey is allowed to race is beyond me. But you are right about Morgan as well.


I think your post is about 1 to 2 years behind the times.
 73cv.2
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on December 02, 2023, 02:21:09 PM
Who is running Dover????(Management)
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 02, 2023, 02:27:11 PM
Who is running Dover????(Management)

I got SCM on it! Stay tune for up to date Youtube video!
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 02, 2023, 02:30:50 PM
Couple things wrong Jackie Mo. Green is gone., Has been for a while. Teague is just average now that they're testing for steroids. Always fill at least 12 to 14 a night at Harrington when racing. They race 3 days a week most weeks at Harrington. Dylan Davis is now avg considering the money he has behind him, King is a no longer a factor and hasn't been in a year or so. Ever since Fishman fiasco. The new crew are Stafford, Tyler and dear old dad and company. Glassmeyer and his pal Berry. And how the hell Horsey is allowed to race is beyond me. But you are right about Morgan as well.


I think your post is about 1 to 2 years behind the times.
 73cv.2

i am well  aware that Green is gone and Teague and King are basically retired due to what you mentioned

my post was more of an historical review of what has happened there in the past

Harrington cannot fill 12-14 races a night--its two or three days a week racing with declining purses
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 02, 2023, 03:10:17 PM
I don't know. Seems like I'm there three nights a week. Monday's upper class and claimers mostly, Tuesday Trotters and nw1 and 2 and Wednesday Fillies and lower class. And I'm usually in the 13th or14th race with the 8 hole! The only month they race 2 days a week is August.


https://harringtonraceway.com.ismmedia.com/ISM3/std-content/repos/Top/Horsemans%20Packet/2023%20Race%20Calendar.pdf
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Locked in with pace on December 02, 2023, 07:05:54 PM
It sure looks like Kirbe's Ace is racing at Dover and Harrington and not doing so well
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 02, 2023, 08:40:07 PM
It sure looks like Kirbe's Ace is racing at Dover and Harrington and not doing so well

Actually, I'm having a good meet at Dover so far.

 tmbz1
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on December 03, 2023, 11:01:56 AM
Maybe Kirby's Ace knows the manager quite well tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 03, 2023, 11:43:53 AM
I am currently fighting SCM for rights to his music videos!

SCM has lots of power behind him and it's going to cost a lot to get The Manager signed!
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on December 03, 2023, 12:00:43 PM
Your last post has nothing to do with this topic.....did you have a senior moment????
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 03, 2023, 12:09:41 PM
I thought you were referring to this when you mentioned the manager!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdyLiZiKQAk
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on December 03, 2023, 01:29:59 PM
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Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: mtnskipper on December 04, 2023, 11:03:53 AM
Horsemen in Delaware have a great program. They have year-round racing between Dover and Harrington and have an amazing bonus program for Delaware residents ( ranges from 20-40% ) and the are very selective about who is even allowed to race there. They protect their own as well as any other state.

So what's the bitching.  I see 15 taces a day, 4 days a week with many 9-horse fields.  from cheap horses to top-class horses. Even the big-name drivers go down there on Thursdays.
   It has been dismal for the bettors since Brandywine went belly up.
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 04, 2023, 05:27:39 PM
   It has been dismal for the bettors since u went belly up.

Actually back in the late 90s-when Ouellette was dominating--the racing was excellent

Delaware was one of the first outside Atlantic City to have casinos and for a few years the purses and horses were tops

I miss those Sunday nights at Brandywine
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 04, 2023, 07:26:37 PM
in 1987 everyone got at least 30 bucks for entering and that help some with gas or food.
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on December 05, 2023, 05:53:10 AM
Still no answer to original question......... .who is the management at Bally's Dover ..... current......
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 05, 2023, 09:34:08 AM
maybe it is Patti Brittingham

she ran the racebook and was Hensley's "yes" person

Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on December 05, 2023, 09:45:23 AM
Horsemen's bookkeeper....... ..... now Race Track Management.....so me driver's girlfriend?????
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 05, 2023, 09:51:06 AM
Horsemen's bookkeeper....... ..... now Race Track Management.....so me driver's girlfriend?????

She has been with Victor Kirby for a long time

not sure if they are still a couple
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Way to go on December 05, 2023, 09:55:09 AM
What about "conflict of interest".........
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 05, 2023, 09:56:20 AM
What about "conflict of interest".........

Dover could care less, they are just happy to have horses fill the races
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Locked in with pace on December 05, 2023, 10:34:04 AM
Is there a conflict of interest with Gural owning horses that race at the tracks he owns or runs? C'Mon. How about the big stables that are friendly with the race secetary's for they help them to fill races? You could say there is a conflict of interest everywhere.
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Kirbys Ace on December 05, 2023, 12:24:30 PM
1/2 the horsemen in Delaware are related in some form to one another.




Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: Locked in with pace on December 05, 2023, 07:50:04 PM
you may be low. Closer to 70 %.
Title: Re: Dover Downs...now Bally's Dover......
Post by: rainman2 on December 05, 2023, 08:59:11 PM
1/2 the horsemen in Delaware are related in some form to one another.

Can we get this verified as factual information!

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