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Title: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 08, 2023, 12:12:37 AM
Monticello vs Yonkers on Thursday. I can tell you that Monticello in 8 races handled 640K and doubled the 320K Yonkers handled in 11 races. How the fuck can Yonkers justify their purse structure when a D track like Monticello embarrasses them on a daily basis?
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: rainman2 on December 08, 2023, 12:14:22 AM
Monticello vs Yonkers on thursday. I can tell you that Monticello in 8 races handled 640K and doubled the 320K Yonkers handled in 11 races. How the fuck can Yonkers justify their purse structure when a D track like Monticello embarrasses them on a daily basis?

Post time!

Also who has more VLT'S!
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 08, 2023, 12:18:53 AM
Post time!

Also who has more VLT'S!
I understand the difference in VLT money but if post time makes a difference, then why doesn't Yonkers start racing in the daytime?
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: rainman2 on December 08, 2023, 12:24:39 AM
I understand the difference in VLT money but if post time makes a difference, then why doesn't Yonkers start racing in the daytime?

Monticello has on track stables.  How much does Yonkers have?

Do people like betting cheaper horses than better ones?

Ask MGM!  Hopefully they answer the question for all of us!
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 08, 2023, 12:35:07 AM
Monticello has on track stables.  How much does Yonkers have?

Do people like betting cheaper horses than better ones?

Ask MGM!  Hopefully they answer the question for all of us!
Apparently, bettors don't care about the class of horse, as long as the race is competitive.
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: rainman2 on December 08, 2023, 12:38:30 AM
Apparently, bettors don't care about the class of horse, as long as the race is competitive.

Bettors want races where they get value for their money.  You might lose a few dollars on 1 race and catch another race where you get a bigger profit and ROI!
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 08, 2023, 12:40:57 AM
Bettors want races where they get value for their money.  You might lose a few dollars on 1 race and catch another race where you get a bigger profit and ROI!
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Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: rainman2 on December 08, 2023, 01:28:57 AM
Apparently, bettors don't care about the class of horse, as long as the race is competitive.

Bettors also need pools to get into so you don’t step on your own money!!
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: dinkadoo on December 08, 2023, 07:59:40 AM
Monticello vs Yonkers on Thursday. I can tell you that Monticello in 8 races handled 640K and doubled the 320K Yonkers handled in 11 races. How the fuck can Yonkers justify their purse structure when a D track like Monticello embarrasses them on a daily basis?
take that 90% percent is bet off track with a return of 3-5%   =  $14,400
take the other 10% with a return of lets say 20%   =  $6,400

Total take  $20,800 now chop in half for expenditures and taxes....

You get $10,400 in mutuel handle that goes into purse account.  ngc3 ngc3

I guess it's good to be a trainer or driver in the horse business, until the rules change and the money dries up..
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 08, 2023, 09:15:50 AM
Hopefully Jonkers racing  closes when they get the new Casino
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Parked on December 08, 2023, 10:06:27 AM
Yonkers. 8 favorites, most $1.30 or below. Across the river where the “cheaper horses” were. 3 out of 10 races.  Eazy peazy. 
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 08, 2023, 11:00:50 AM
Monticello vs Yonkers on Thursday. I can tell you that Monticello in 8 races handled 640K and doubled the 320K Yonkers handled in 11 races. How the fuck can Yonkers justify their purse structure when a D track like Monticello embarrasses them on a daily basis?

Handle has nothing to do with purses-are you slow?
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Bitter Truth on December 08, 2023, 11:55:07 AM
 Hey Mike, what are you going to say about Jackie Mo's wife now?  ;D
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 08, 2023, 12:06:26 PM
The Monticello sympathizer gave kudos to Monti for $2.7 million of computer error handle-anything goes now

he can talk about my dead wife all he wants

loud mouthed
know it all
advice guy
blowhard
attention seeking
insecure
petty
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: seriously on December 08, 2023, 01:09:18 PM
Apparently, bettors don't care about the class of horse, as long as the race is competitive.

100% correct.

There was a day when horses were part of the American life.  That is no longer the case.  As a result, going forward, few people will care about the horse or its class.  Those that will gamble simply want to feel like they got a fair shake.  The humans involved are FAR more important than the horse for most people that will wager in the next 20 years.  The first track that realizes this, and encourages a new participant that would be interesting to fans, will have a fighting chance at survival.  A 6th generation horse person simply is not enough. 
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Bitter Truth on December 08, 2023, 01:25:34 PM
 Jackie Mo ..Sorry your name was brought into it. I and others have gone round and round with him about his  'HANDLE'. Yes originally that was the premise on which purses were structured and funded, but as 'WE' know, that simply is not the case for the 'VAST' majority of harness racing now. He predictably made comments about my wife and daughter at the time. Loves to laud his precious M[1], claiming that they are funded with their handle, when according to several on here, they do indeed receive subsidies. Granted not as much as the slot tracks but certainly not self sustaining. Maybe he'll say you have cooties since you don't buy his theory.
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Superfecta on December 08, 2023, 02:08:21 PM
Andrew Herzog buys more races at Monticello. It’s his backyard. He will bet much more there too so that’s a huge % of the handle. You will see a big difference when he dies or goes to jail.
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 08, 2023, 03:15:22 PM
Jackie Mo ..Sorry your name was brought into it. I and others have gone round and round with him about his  'HANDLE'. Yes originally that was the premise on which purses were structured and funded, but as 'WE' know, that simply is not the case for the 'VAST' majority of harness racing now. He predictably made comments about my wife and daughter at the time. Loves to laud his precious M[1], claiming that they are funded with their handle, when according to several on here, they do indeed receive subsidies. Granted not as much as the slot tracks but certainly not self sustaining. Maybe he'll say you have cooties since you don't buy his theory.
Why don't you and Jackie Mo get a room. Quite frankly, his wife is lucky she is dead. He is a know nothing canuck that wouldn't know which end of a horse eats and which end shits. As far as you're concerned, you like to make fun of Jenn Bongiorno, calling her a Jersey ho but when it is directed at you, you play the innocent victim. For what it's worth, I know you don't have a wife or daughter, as you are the biggest faggot I have come across and you're just a bitter person because of your incurable problem with anal warts. Do yourself a favor and give your asshole a break.
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on December 08, 2023, 04:23:22 PM
CAWs are in monticello pools, not in yonkers pools
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Yonkers1A on December 09, 2023, 10:07:47 AM
CAWs are in monticello pools, not in yonkers pools

Jonkers should close

Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Calhoun on December 09, 2023, 10:11:08 AM
Why don't you and Jackie Mo get a room. Quite frankly, his wife is lucky she is dead. He is a know nothing canuck that wouldn't know which end of a horse eats and which end shits. As far as you're concerned, you like to make fun of Jenn Bongiorno, calling her a Jersey ho but when it is directed at you, you play the innocent victim. For what it's worth, I know you don't have a wife or daughter, as you are the biggest faggot I have come across and you're just a bitter person because of your incurable problem with anal warts. Do yourself a favor and give your asshole a break.
wow... you really brought da shit there.. how sure are you?
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 09, 2023, 11:02:54 AM
Jackie Mo ..Sorry your name was brought into it. I and others have gone round and round with him about his  'HANDLE'. Yes originally that was the premise on which purses were structured and funded, but as 'WE' know, that simply is not the case for the 'VAST' majority of harness racing now. He predictably made comments about my wife and daughter at the time. Loves to laud his precious M[1], claiming that they are funded with their handle, when according to several on here, they do indeed receive subsidies. Granted not as much as the slot tracks but certainly not self sustaining. Maybe he'll say you have cooties since you don't buy his theory.

No worries, Truth

i am sorry he commented about your wife and daughter

i have been called a Canuck twice now even though i live in NJ

He seems to have issues with the fact that handle doesnt impact purses
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 02:15:20 PM
No worries, Truth

i am sorry he commented about your wife and daughter

i have been called a Canuck twice now even though i live in NJ

He seems to have issues with the fact that handle doesnt impact purses
You may live in NJ but you're from Canada. Also, you seem to be friendly with Truth, as you call him. Why don't you do some actual research asshole. You will discover numerous posts of Truth bashing the garden state. You two dick faces deserve each other.
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 02:59:55 PM
Jackie Mo ..Sorry your name was brought into it. I and others have gone round and round with him about his  'HANDLE'. Yes originally that was the premise on which purses were structured and funded, but as 'WE' know, that simply is not the case for the 'VAST' majority of harness racing now. He predictably made comments about my wife and daughter at the time. Loves to laud his precious M[1], claiming that they are funded with their handle, when according to several on here, they do indeed receive subsidies. Granted not as much as the slot tracks but certainly not self sustaining. Maybe he'll say you have cooties since you don't buy his theory.
OK shit for brains, if handle is irrelevant and isn't important, then why do tracks have betting?
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Jackie Mo on December 09, 2023, 04:01:21 PM
OK shit for brains, if handle is irrelevant and isn't important, then why do tracks have betting?

OK-i will dumb it down for you

i said handle has no impact on purses

Handle has nothing to do with purses-are you slow?

please pay attention
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 04:05:52 PM
OK-i will dumb it down for you

i said handle has no impact on purses

please pay attention
So what does it impact, moron?
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 04:24:34 PM
Hey Mike, what are you going to say about Jackie Mo's wife now?  ;D
I must say, you are quite the multitasker. To be able to type and post on plop while having a cock in your mouth and one in your ass is very impressive.
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: Gaagoots on December 09, 2023, 04:25:36 PM
I must say, you are quite the multitasker. To be able to type and post on plop while having a cock in your mouth and one in your ass is very impressive.
Hahaha that’s too funny good one Mike!
Title: Re: Handle Wars-Monticello vs Yonkers
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 04:26:21 PM
Hahaha that’s too funny good one Mike!
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