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Title: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: wizardofoz on December 09, 2023, 01:48:48 PM
In 1988, George Steinbrenner, the principal owner of the New York Yankees, who has been a horse breeder and involved in harness racing for many years, expressed interest in buying the raceway, continuing its operation and developing it into a profitable harness racing track. After a private tour through the raceway he met with Hempstead Presiding Supervisor Joseph N. Mondello and with an agent from the State Economic Development Agency Wednesday. After touring the race track, Mr. Steinbrenner refused to discuss finances and said that before making a final decision he would have to talk to his business associates....... .if he did buy it, and a racino would have followed after 911 in 2001, Roosevelt could have been a huge deal for harness racing.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: Gaagoots on December 09, 2023, 01:55:05 PM
George was more involved in thoroughbreds. His farm in Tampa had nothing but thoroughbreds.

I’m not sure George had the patience to put up with all the standardbred bullshit not to mention all politicians that had to have their hands greased.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 02:10:17 PM
George was more involved in thoroughbreds. His farm in Tampa had nothing but thoroughbreds.

I’m not sure George had the patience to put up with all the standardbred bullshit not to mention all politicians that had to have their hands greased.

I thought his farm was in Ocala, adjacent to Carl Allen's farm.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on December 09, 2023, 02:19:54 PM
GEORGE WAS A THIEF HIMSELF SO HE WOULD FIT RIGHT IN WITH THESE DIRTBAGS TODAY. HE ONLY USED TO JUICE TRAINERS IN CHICAGO FOR YEARS AND TURNED A BLIND EYE.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: wizardofoz on December 09, 2023, 03:15:37 PM
Didn't George use Harmer?
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 03:22:34 PM
Didn't George use Harmer?
Correct. George owned TK's Skipper who was trained by Tom. Horse was then sold to Nick Sodano who turned him into a monster.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: Gaagoots on December 09, 2023, 04:20:42 PM
I thought his farm was in Ocala, adjacent to Carl Allen's farm.
You’re right, my mistake!
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: Gaagoots on December 09, 2023, 04:23:33 PM
I remember the pinstripe stable Silverman trained for. They were a bunch of Yankees. I think it was Phil Rizzuto, Mickey Rivers, Roy White I think maybe Yogi and a few others.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 04:25:39 PM
You’re right, my mistake!
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Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on December 09, 2023, 05:56:26 PM
Correct. George owned TK's Skipper who was trained by Tom. Horse was then sold to Nick Sodano who turned him into a monster.
HE OWNED WAY NICER HORSES THAN TK'S SKIPPER WITH HARMER. HIS PARTNER WAS CHARLIE DAY UNTIL GEORGE AND DAY REALIZED THAT HARMER WAS RIPPING THEM OFF BLIND. GEORGE ALSO OWNED HORSES WITH ROGER WELCH IN CHICAGO. TKS SKIPPER WAS A GOOD HORSE PERIOD.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: wizardofoz on December 09, 2023, 09:58:59 PM
Harmer was a rip off type?
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 09, 2023, 10:10:33 PM
HE OWNED WAY NICER HORSES THAN TK'S SKIPPER WITH HARMER. HIS PARTNER WAS CHARLIE DAY UNTIL GEORGE AND DAY REALIZED THAT HARMER WAS RIPPING THEM OFF BLIND. GEORGE ALSO OWNED HORSES WITH ROGER WELCH IN CHICAGO. TKS SKIPPER WAS A GOOD HORSE PERIOD.
You're fucking nuts. TK's Skipper was a world champion that earned over 1 million and was only 1 fifth off of Niatross world record of 1:49.1. Please, don't embarrass yourself.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: Calhoun on December 10, 2023, 10:29:56 AM
HE OWNED WAY NICER HORSES THAN TK'S SKIPPER
Name one.


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Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on December 10, 2023, 10:58:28 AM
Name one.


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Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: The Doctor on December 11, 2023, 03:08:57 AM
I thought his farm was in Ocala, adjacent to Carl Allen's farm.

Family members purchased 50% of Balmoral the the late 80's
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: jupiter on December 11, 2023, 05:03:02 PM
If, It's and But's were Candy and Nuts, EVERYDAY WOULD BE FUCKING CHRISTMAS. I miss it too but I've learned to live withit.
Title: Re: What if, in 1988, George bought Roosevelt Raceway?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on December 11, 2023, 05:34:23 PM
George ended up with Tom Harmer, through several IL connections, mutual friends, etc. -- but mainly because of his relationship with Charlie Day. Charlie owned Lewiston and was a major owner of Tom Harmer's. After that, George also ended up with other trainers because of his connection and relationship with John Cashman who ran Castleton Farms. Cashman also ran Pompano for the Van Lennep estate until the mid-90's when they sold to the predecessor of Isle of Capri.
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