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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Harness racer on December 15, 2023, 01:30:59 AM
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Never really heard of her. Wins 7 at Dayton Thursday night and a lot of them are with Chuck Crissman's owners from DE and MD. Won 10 of her last 20 and several others on the board. Most will never have a week like that.
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Never really heard of her. Wins 7 at Dayton Thursday night and a lot of them are with Chuck Crissman's owners from DE and MD. Won 10 of her last 20 and several others on the board. Most will never have a week like that.
Many trainers don't have a single year as good as this!
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Many trainers don't have a single year as good as this!
I was thinking the same thing. I'm assuming someone like Burke has won that many in one card but that is still very special.
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First race winner won by 9 lengths in 49.0 -- was claimed
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Must be a huge outfit with employees to race 10 on one card....
Lets not forget the great night Jeremy Smith had driving for the Perrin Stable
Tale of the tape
10 - 7 - 1 - 0
Purse money won $ 54,250
5% bonus $2712.50
win pays
2.60
3.80
2.80
3.00
3.40
3.60
4.80
3 were claimed and the Perrin stable claimed 1
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Husband is trainer jd perrin, raced at many tracks, no stranger to positives, my guess horses are under her name , maybe because he is on suspension, but he does juice !
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BOB BELCHER
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Husband is trainer jd perrin, raced at many tracks, no stranger to positives, my guess horses are under her name , maybe because he is on suspension, but he does juice !
Correct.
They used to race at Buffalo and Batavia, before moving to Ohio.
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From what I heard, she’s a pretty good nurse (RN).
JD suspended due to criminal record, assault?
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Anyone remember jd's dad John at Lebanon? The guy was a nut. Funny as hell but a bit crazy
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Must be a huge outfit with employees to race 10 on one card....
Lets not forget the great night Jeremy Smith had driving for the Perrin Stable
Tale of the tape
10 - 7 - 1 - 0
Purse money won $ 54,250
5% bonus $2712.50
win pays
2.60
3.80
2.80
3.00
3.40
3.60
4.80
3 were claimed and the Perrin stable claimed 1
Ill gotten gains
Tainted money
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BOB BELCHER
I think you hit the nail on the head!
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okay, i dont know them and never heard of them
but that is irrelevant
and good for them for their success
so now usta or the state association get off your ass and start checking them out, test all their horses, visit their farm or where they train and do a friendly search
if its too good to be true it usually is
not suggesting they are guilty of anything but these associations have a duty to protect the horses, other horseman and gamblers so do your fuckin job
once again not specific to this trainer but anyone or anytime something like this happens it needs to be checked out , especially if there is evidence of a nefarious past
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She must be a very hard worker
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She hasn't put a harness on one of those horses. Those horses were shipped from Bob Belchers farm straight to Dayton probably on Belchers rig and raced. Belcher sent the two drivers down with a pocket full of money to pay anyone they could find to paddock them. Then they got warmed up, raced, and back on the trailer. 10 Horses - probably 4-5 Harness is all they shipped with. Few sets of hopples. The Belcher way is do it on the cheap and then one day smack them in the mouth for 6-7 wins using some drug and then never use it again for a long while. She won't win a race for a few weeks now.
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And the judges and track management don't do a thing. Typical OHIO criminal activity.
And it is so damn blatant
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I was wondering how long it would take for someone with the Golden Answer to slap it up here! This outfit was flying under the radar for way to long.The false sense of invincibility had come to a head.
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BOB BELCHER
Belcher’s back??
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Sort of like Josh Marks...Do they ever really go away?
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sadly they do not
a. the associations allow their bullshit to continue, just look the other way
b. what else are they qualified to do , no other choice
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First up, If I recall John Perrin was a 'large' man. Much like Jim Arledge Sr. or how bout George Ursitti [spelling?]
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But what is the connection with the Crissman owners from DE and MD?
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TESSA PERRIN = BOB BELCHER FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS. ONLY NOW THEY DECIDED TO ROLL ALL OF THEM
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Best part is the other horsemen just lay down and take it when this shit goes on. What a joke this "sport" is.
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First up, If I recall John Perrin was a 'large' man. Much like Jim Arledge Sr. or how bout George Ursitti [spelling?]
John was overweight to say the least. Met him at Hollywood Park many years ago. I saw him last at Lexington. He always had a lot of junkers but no luck. I called Northfield several years ago when he came to mind but he had died of a heart attack the year before. He was a good man. Always a smile and something good to say. Hence I will miss him as a person. He was kin to Tessa and JD. tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
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Belcher’s back??
Don’t know about Bob B but they are tied into Dr. Wolf from Indiana, who’s just a front for the fat vet Dr. Skeleton
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I looked her up and she had zero starts as a trainer in 2021 and 2022 but this year 263 starts so far.
Looks like a scam
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I looked her up and she had zero starts as a trainer in 2021 and 2022 but this year 263 starts so far.
Looks like a scam
Can we see the numbers please?
starts-wins-seconds-thirds-urts % and purse money
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Trainer Summary
Class Exp. Date
Current License: General 06/30/2025
Year Purse Starts 1st 2nd 3rd Money Won UTRS Mat. & Qual. Starts *Racelines/ Charts Free! Listing of
Race Replays
2023 263 58 37 31 $ 654,224 0.338 4 Sum Ext Cht Media Listing
2020 17 3 3 2 $ 25,166 0.314 0 Sum Ext Cht Media Listing
2017 74 18 12 9 $ 82,303 0.374 0 Sum Ext Cht Media Listing
2011 179 22 25 34 $ 111,623 0.264 21 Sum Ext Cht Media Listing
2010 160 16 24 22 $ 93,959 0.229 22 Sum Ext Cht Media Listing
2007 7 0 1 0 $ 1,058 0.079 0 Sum Ext Cht N/A
LTD Total 700 117 102 98 $ 968,33
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Tessa’s maiden name is Roland. From her father’s side of the family she is at minimum third generation horse person. On her mother’s side of the family she is a fourth generation horsewoman. She was cleaning stalls and jogging horses from a young age. Both of her parents drove at the Iowa fairs. She has two brothers who drive and train. She has done an outstanding job keeping older claimer’s racing. JD may have been the named trainer previously, but I can tell you Tessa has always done more than her share of the work.
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Tessa’s maiden name is Roland. From her father’s side of the family she is at minimum third generation horse person. On her mother’s side of the family she is a fourth generation horsewoman. She was cleaning stalls and jogging horses from a young age. Both of her parents drove at the Iowa fairs. She has two brothers who drive and train. She has done an outstanding job keeping older claimer’s racing. JD may have been the named trainer previously, but I can tell you Tessa has always done more than her share of the work.
Thanks for the info! Doesn't explain super trainer status! tmbz1
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Tessa’s maiden name is Roland. From her father’s side of the family she is at minimum third generation horse person. On her mother’s side of the family she is a fourth generation horsewoman. She was cleaning stalls and jogging horses from a young age. Both of her parents drove at the Iowa fairs. She has two brothers who drive and train. She has done an outstanding job keeping older claimer’s racing. JD may have been the named trainer previously, but I can tell you Tessa has always done more than her share of the work.
You seem to be a close friend of hers so maybe you can explain why between 2012 and 2022 she had only 91 starts as a trainer and then exploded in 2023 and even exploded more lately. Tough to have a good explanation other than she is fronting for someone else
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jd perrin was in ny when shit hit the fan. possibly getting out of dodge before he went down too. they gamble. this summer at scioto they pretty much won when they wanted to. lots of nice paying wins. jd learned something from someone in ny.
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Thinking the same thing when Ohio put the picture up of her and Smith on Facebook. 7 winners on a card??? Cmon now. With all the shit going on these morons keeping throwing it in the industry’s face!!
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Thinking the same thing when Ohio put the picture up of her and Smith on Facebook. 7 winners on a card??? Cmon now. With all the shit going on these morons keeping throwing it in the industry’s face!!
I saw that last night on FB...I had to laugh. Stealing money from their rank and file.
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jd perrin was in ny when shit hit the fan. possibly getting out of dodge before he went down too. they gamble. this summer at scioto they pretty much won when they wanted to. lots of nice paying wins. jd learned something from someone in ny.
He also hangs out with Bruce Soulsby on the regular. That doesnt hurt either.
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you know nothing about Big Bob Belcher.
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you know nothing about Big Bob Belcher.
Rumor had it that Belcher was intertwined with Case Jr. Outside of racing too!!
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simple theory
if its too good to be true it usually is
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when the old man was alive they had a barn full of cheap horses. they didnt win much at all. they worked hard. very nice people. john unfortunately passed. then the kid went to ny. now he wins whenever he wants. put the puzzle together.
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bob did not hang aroung with anyone from the track. you would think bob and walter would talk a lot. i think it was the opposite. walter just got on the bike and sent them all. he wouldnt listen to directions. walter did what walter wanted.
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bob did not hang aroung with anyone from the track. you would think bob and walter would talk a lot. i think it was the opposite. walter just got on the bike and sent them all. he wouldnt listen to directions. walter did what walter wanted.
Case borrowed $$ from belcher when times were tough? Rumor or fact??
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Case borrowed $$ from belcher when times were tough? Rumor or fact??
Bob paid some of his kicking fines off so he could drive. As for borrowing money??????
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IM SURE THATS FACT. AMONG OTHERS WHO HELPED WALTER WITH MONEY TOO. IT WASNT JUST THE FINES. HE NEEDED P.R. HELP WITH THE FRONT SIDE. LOTS OF PEOPLE WENT TO BAT FOR HIM. I WAS SUPRISED HE MADE IT THERE AS LONG AS HE DID
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7 more into go this Thursday, all horses have been racing in Ohio 2023 no surprise's here.
All should make checks, really good stock.
R1 Bell I No ....8 time winner in 23
R2 Babes Dig Me.....5 time winner in 1:50
R3 Meadowland Terror.....10 time winner in 23
R6 Somebadude.....ha s won 3 in a row
R7 Havefaithinme.... ..5 time winner in 23
R12 Book of Life........5 time winner L4 $9450
R14 Rockn Speed......winner $12600 L4
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BELL I NO OUT OF GAS
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91.jzail
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7 more into go this Thursday, all horses have been racing in Ohio 2023 no surprise's here.
All should make checks, really good stock.
R1 Bell I No ....8 time winner in 23
R2 Babes Dig Me.....5 time winner in 1:50
R3 Meadowland Terror.....10 time winner in 23
R6 Somebadude.....ha s won 3 in a row
R7 Havefaithinme.... ..5 time winner in 23
R12 Book of Life........5 time winner L4 $9450
R14 Rockn Speed......winner $12600 L4
4 horses finished 3rd no winner's Thursday night.
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Is Tessa Hot OR Not?
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I guess NOT.
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Hot as in looks? She has made more soft than she has made hard.
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Doesn't your hay sink when you sail it?..Asking for a friend ;D
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Poor Bellino has been in the barns of trainers that have the high octane juice! There comes a day when horses can't be ignited any more,cooked and corked are the beginning or the end for most of them! 💉💉💊💊💉💉
BELL I NO OUT OF GAS
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4 winners so far tonight at Miami Valley.
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This shit is getting ridiculous. She’s obviously juicing get this dumb bitch suspended
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Of course she's juicing, does anyone think Ameer Najor would send her horse, if she didn't?
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Perrin claimed 2
had 1 claimed off them
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Tessa and jd perrin are no good. Cheating dirtbags.
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Her owner list is very interesting. How did these guys guess she would catch fire? Just lucky I suppose. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Of course she's juicing, does anyone think Ameer Najor would send her horse, if she didn't?
Sure gets around!
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Cannot bet Ohio racing!
Anything and everything goes.
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Cannot bet Ohio racing!
Anything and everything goes.
Anything goes, is right! Sadly, I make the most money betting Ohio tracks
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Anything goes, is right! Sadly, I make the most money betting Ohio tracks
I hear you. I have enough choices though and after watching a couple of obviously drugged up horses the other day I just cannot do it anymore.
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Must be a huge outfit with employees to race 10 on one card....
Lets not forget the great night Jeremy Smith had driving for the Perrin Stable
Tale of the tape
10 - 7 - 1 - 0
Purse money won $ 54,250
5% bonus $2712.50
win pays
2.60
3.80
2.80
3.00
3.40
3.60
4.80
3 were claimed and the Perrin stable claimed 1
per USTA stats
started off
10-7-1-0
Since then
33-2-3-3
Move on people --- nothing to see here.
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Big owners from Delaware/Maryland didn't get on board for no reason.
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Just happens whoever certain owners give horses to, seem to all of a sudden know how to train.
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They are hard working people. Run a nice operation.
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9 live entries at Scioto tomorrow night. Over/Under is 5 winners.