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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Mr.Turnpike on June 08, 2024, 07:04:26 PM
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Today is the last day for thoroughbred track golden gates
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Damn, Crazy. Pretty slim pickens in Cali .Closure here. Small fields at SA
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No fans
All California tracks down on everything
Santaa Anita. Small fields
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Today is the last day for thoroughbred track golden gates
Aqueduct will be gone in 2026
Laurel will be gone in 26 or 27
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Aqueduct will be gone in 2026
Laurel will be gone in 26 or 27
It's a shame west coast horse racing hasn't mastered the art of living off everyone else like they do in the northeast. ngc3
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It says it’s been open for 83 years
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many of the dates will be at Pleasanton and a few fairs like Santa Rosa, Fresno and Ferndale
better than racing on that synthetic nonsense
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It's a shame west coast horse racing hasn't mastered the art of living off everyone else like they do in the northeast. ngc3
You've lived off Welfare for how long now?
When was the last time you were actually on the pay roll of a legit company?
It's always those who bark the loudest, who have the most to be ashamed of.
The jersey boys don't want you around & it doesn't seem to be different anywhere else, that I've seen.
Can have all the money in my bank account but what good is it without health & family? Can't take it with ya when you go.
In that case- you're poor in every way imaginable.
Time to buck up, tighten the boots, put your head down & put the work in for you and those you love. We've been waiting 10+ years Micheal, everything you touched has turned to shit and you hopped around more than the Easter bunny.
Go on about me not posting my name here, it's all you got on me but I know you alot more than you think. I'm trying to give you advice here, try to do the right thing for once, even if it's hard work.
Stop relying on the gov't & the rest of us. Most have confirmed they are done with your B.S.
We felt sorry for you but you have turned into a rotten apple more & more, now there's worms in ya...
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You've lived off Welfare for how long now?
When was the last time you were actually on the pay roll of a legit company?
It's always those who bark the loudest, who have the most to be ashamed of.
The jersey boys don't want you around & it doesn't seem to be different anywhere else, that I've seen.
Can have all the money in my bank account but what good is it without health & family? Can't take it with ya when you go.
In that case- you're poor in every way imaginable.
Time to buck up, tighten the boots, put your head down & put the work in for you and those you love. We've been waiting 10+ years Micheal, everything you touched has turned to shit and you hopped around more than the Easter bunny.
Go on about me not posting my name here, it's all you got on me but I know you alot more than you think. I'm trying to give you advice here, try to do the right thing for once, even if it's hard work.
Stop relying on the gov't & the rest of us. Most have confirmed they are done with your B.S.
We felt sorry for you but you have turned into a rotten apple more & more, now there's worms in ya...
Show me where. You can't, but I can ABSOLUTELY show all of you that an entire industry lives off EVERYONE ELSE.You call harness racing legit? Half the people it "employs" have NO DOCUMENTATION. You try so hard to distract yourselves from the sad truth, it's pathetic. I love it. BTW, why don't you show me who you are? No chance, right chicken shit? ngc3
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its not just horse racing , everything and everybody is leaving California
what a shame used to be the best there in all aspects
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Crime is out of control there. Retail businesses closing every day due to theft. That fucking moron running the state has presidential aspirations one day! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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You've lived off Welfare for how long now?
When was the last time you were actually on the pay roll of a legit company?
It's always those who bark the loudest, who have the most to be ashamed of.
The jersey boys don't want you around & it doesn't seem to be different anywhere else, that I've seen.
Can have all the money in my bank account but what good is it without health & family? Can't take it with ya when you go.
In that case- you're poor in every way imaginable.
Time to buck up, tighten the boots, put your head down & put the work in for you and those you love. We've been waiting 10+ years Micheal, everything you touched has turned to shit and you hopped around more than the Easter bunny.
Go on about me not posting my name here, it's all you got on me but I know you alot more than you think. I'm trying to give you advice here, try to do the right thing for once, even if it's hard work.
Stop relying on the gov't & the rest of us. Most have confirmed they are done with your B.S.
We felt sorry for you but you have turned into a rotten apple more & more, now there's worms in ya...
You post this 100 % truth about a big mouth, absolute nobody, who relies on handouts his entire life and he responds with what the business is all about. In other words, takes zero responsibility by actually finding answers in the mirror ans spends his entire life pointing the index finger outwards, instead of pointing the thumb inward.
This is what happens to people in their late 50's, when they realize they have nothing to ever retire on, have nothing to leave for children at the end and turn into bitter, angry old people. Actually sad in many ways, but choices do matter and always will.
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Crime is out of control there. Retail businesses closing every day due to theft. That fucking moron running the state has presidential aspirations one day! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Only business to flourish under Newsome was U-Haul
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You post this 100 % truth about a big mouth, absolute nobody, who relies on handouts his entire life and he responds with what the business is all about. In other words, takes zero responsibility by actually finding answers in the mirror ans spends his entire life pointing the index finger outwards, instead of pointing the thumb inward.
This is what happens to people in their late 50's, when they realize they have nothing to ever retire on, have nothing to leave for children at the end and turn into bitter, angry old people. Actually sad in many ways, but choices do matter and always will.
Says another coward who has yet to expose who they are, seems like you all have plenty to keep hidden. Are you also on the harness racing welfare plan? I'm not. I get a kick out of reading all this while I'm down here on this property. In two years not one of you has followed up on anything, literally not once. So what is the real reason you are all afraid to say who you are? Hmmm???? ngc3
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Says another coward who has yet to expose who they are, seems like you all have plenty to keep hidden. Are you also on the harness racing welfare plan? I'm not. I get a kick out of reading all this while I'm down here on this property. In two years not one of you has followed up on anything, literally not once. So what is the real reason you are all afraid to say who you are? Hmmm???? ngc3
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Harness racing welfare plan??? Too funny. Look up teachers pensions in North Jersey, specifically teachers in the Northern Valley, Old Tappan, the highest paid in the state at 130k and figure out the pension value 30 years later. Yep it averages about 5.5k a month with an SS payment of 3k on top of that at age 62. That's some welfare plan.LOL Yep, choices do matter. Spent 40 years making betting donations at M1, small time owner that lost e few bucks and always had a retirement plan in focus. What's your plan, what are you leaving family members? only a fool would throw their whole life into this scam of a sport, yet you continue to chase. Did I mention choices matter.
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please clarify your description of harness racing handouts and welfare
you make it sound like people in the industry sit on their asses and collect for doing nothing (sure there is lots of people outside harness racing who get that benefit but we wont get into that)
i see people working long hours in sometimes undesirable weather and travelling around caring for horses
of course there is a few bad apples( always has been , always will be) but most trainers, drivers and grooms earn their money
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So it’s somehow better to start go fund me accounts and not follow through on money accepted than taking state handouts? Both seem in the same ballpark to me. tmbz1
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So it’s somehow better to start go fund me accounts and not follow through on money accepted than taking state handouts? Both seem in the same ballpark to me. tmbz1
Glad you said it. The people in my group CHOSE to chip in. You lowlives take money from people who work their asses off and have no choice where their money is going. You are all no different than being forced to pay for people coming into this country illegally or forced to pay for people who refuse to work and are able bodied. I did that once with full transparency and the results were documented for all to see. You have taken welfare for DECADES AND WANT MORE! BAHAHAHAAA ngc3
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please clarify your description of harness racing handouts and welfare
you make it sound like people in the industry sit on their asses and collect for doing nothing (sure there is lots of people outside harness racing who get that benefit but we wont get into that)
i see people working long hours in sometimes undesirable weather and travelling around caring for horses
of course there is a few bad apples( always has been , always will be) but most trainers, drivers and grooms earn their money
So? How about people who have worked their entire life for any company that went bankrupt. Why don't they get endless welfare like harness racing. How many horses died from PEDs at K Mart or any other now defunct well known chain while the state funded it? If someone opens a factory that manufactures rotary phones does that mean just because people work the taxpayers have to support something that is obsolete? Harness Racing is criminal, abuses animals and contributes nothing to society. Veterans live on the streets so professional manure shovelers can have a job? I don't consider caring for horses work. Never have and never will. But don't ever try to compare this disgusting industry with other people who have worked to better others and lost it all with no welfare saving them. You really are insane.
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i'm insane??
when did harness racing go bankrupt??
you really are bitter towards the industry
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i'm insane??
when did harness racing go bankrupt??
you really are bitter towards the industry
Ok. Take away all the subsidies. Tell me if it can stand on its own. You really live is a fantasy world. Went bankrupt early 2000s. Take away racinos, casinos, sports betting and state welfare. You have any clue how many tracks wouldn't exist had it not been for welfare support? Bitter? No I'm realistic. Keep believing the so called industry will be supported forever with other people's money and see how that works. How is harness racing in Florida doing? Wake up.
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Think about it...
It's 2024, here's some tracks that would not exist without WELFARE.
Meadowlands
Freehold
Harrahs Philly
Yonkers
Dover
Pocono
Buffalo
Plainridge
Bangor
Batavia
Vernon
Tioga
MVG
Hoosier
Northfield
How's Florida doing?
How's Michigan doing?
How about Cali?
Shall I continue?
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I stand corrected. Almost forgot harness racing does contribute to keeping kill pens full. Well done jerkoffs. Beg for more welfare and keep killing horses you created.
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If only we knew a guy that runs a farm now with lots of open stalls and paddock space.
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Don’t you have tons of stalls and paddock space available to you now? Seems like you’re in a position to help several horses.
Well aren't you special. Stalls are full. I have three retired mares here and a gelding. One mare was in trouble that I work with every day. None are in kill pens. Isn't it funny how yet another anonymous coward attempts to spin it back on me, yet can't show what they've done to help a horse in need? Also offered a paddock to anyone with a horse in the city that needs a break and they can't afford it. What's even funnier is how quickly you showed you are just another welfare recipient from harness racing and immediately saying SOMEONE ELSE should do the job you people don't do. Fucking PRICELESS. ngc3
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If only we knew a guy that runs a farm now with lots of open stalls and paddock space.
Oh look you had to change your post! ngc3
Now it's find someone who will take in the horses you have destroyed and support them. Again assuming I have open stalls? Sorry, all rented. And yes there are paddocks available as I said in my previous response. So you twice are stating someone else has to take in your horses. Class! Just looking for even more handouts.
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Another example of how welfare recipients treat their horses after racing. You scumbags make the carriage horse people look like angels. tmbz1
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thanks MP
i am well aware of the state of the industry and where the majority of the purse money comes from
that does not mean the industry is bankrupt
could it be one day , its possible but not right now
again i will remind you and others that those "subsidies" you claim come from casinos rights to operate and get circulated back to the tracks
also i am sickened to see even one standardbred go to a kill pen and i know it happens but what is the solution beyond what some good people are currently trying to do
i also hate the way most veterans are treated and no one has fixed that either
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thanks MP
i am well aware of the state of the industry and where the majority of the purse money comes from
that does not mean the industry is bankrupt
could it be one day , its possible but not right now
again i will remind you and others that those "subsidies" you claim come from casinos rights to operate and get circulated back to the tracks
also i am sickened to see even one standardbred go to a kill pen and i know it happens but what is the solution beyond what some good people are currently trying to do
i also hate the way most veterans are treated and no one has fixed that either
When you spend more than you earn, it's called bankrupt. Take away the welfare and get back to me. This is the business equivalent of living with your parents for free while you're 50 years old and saying you're a success. ngc3
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incorrect MP
the way a balance sheet works is when your expenses are higher than your revenue ( from all sources) you are trending to bankruptcy
please define the "welfare" that horse racing receives
before you said subsidy, which is it welfare or subsidy , there is a difference
if as you say horse racing receives "welfare" that counts as a revenue stream, you cant just take it away like its not there
when/if that revenue stream dries up than it may be a different storey
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incorrect MP
the way a balance sheet works is when your expenses are higher than your revenue ( from all sources) you are trending to bankruptcy
please define the "welfare" that horse racing receives
before you said subsidy, which is it welfare or subsidy , there is a difference
if as you say horse racing receives "welfare" that counts as a revenue stream, you cant just take it away like its not there
when/if that revenue stream dries up than it may be a different storey
The industry calls it subsidy when in fact it is welfare. Having to bankroll an industry that cannot survive without outside injections of money is welfare. And in this case a criminal industry that abuses and kills animals with no accountability. Thankfully it won't last forever. Facts for now are the industry will stay afloat on a life raft and horses will die for it in one form or another. tmbz1
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So you've made your point, over and over on several threads. Lot of truth to it admittedly but give it a rest, huh?
Just lookin to get a rise from people at this point obviously.
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So you've made your point, over and over on several threads. Lot of truth to it admittedly but give it a rest, huh?
Just lookin to get a rise from people at this point obviously.
Give it a rest? Nah. Too much fun forcing the truth down everyone's throats like I'm pouring it in a funnel. Ya know, in a way that they can relate. As for getting a rise. I guess it's been ok what has been said to me about my personal life, my kids, my family dead and alive. Now I hit a nerve and you cunts can't take it? Boofuckinghoo. I'll keep going until I get banned for posting reality. Until then...peace