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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Pacingqueen on July 14, 2024, 11:49:05 AM
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How long until he is back as a groom working for Casey and Beaton? 10 million plus worth of horses and he has had 1 make a little, but the horse was super for Alagna before Andrew bought him. Andrews life as a trainer about over. The ugly freckle red head he carries around better keep training riding horses.
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More jealousy. Sound bitter, get a life.
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Guy stumbles/struggles/fails......people are so quick to kick a guy when he's down. On the other hand, he steps up, does great, improves......the guy is labeled a cheater/chemist/drug trainer and so on. Maybe that speaks to the commenters and not the subject.
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Its beatins turn to get the gas...
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Only a dog would be worrying about this dicks so soon after their wife passing away.
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beaton/coleman doing damage ??
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New name, same yogurt! tmbz1
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Good Luck this year Andrew
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Good Luck this year Andrew
The only thing Andrew is good at is running his mouth and lying through his teeth. This Pollock didn't do much research before he decided to open his checkbook. He will be out of the game quickly and sour.
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Did you not see Pollock's interview with Little last night? This guy does not care anything about money and is spilling over with happiness for his newfound fame. Did you get the part about who his advisor is? Must be some hot shot right? It's his son. His 14 YEAR OLD SON. He's the one who does the research on racehorses and tells his father which ones to buy. Their main criteria is it must be one of the top 3 in that particular class.
Bottom line is that he is spending these millions to set up his son with a stable when he gets all growed up. Talk about a Nepo Baby.
They may end up changing trainers but they will probably be in the business forever unless the kid had ADHD and finds another hobby.
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You can debate all day, all night long whether Harris was a good # 2, travelling assistant, or whatever. Maybe he was very good at some role, maybe not. Have at it. However, even the best 2nd trainers/assistants, not every one of them had what it took to make it on their own. There can be a big difference between being a # 2 and being a # 1. We can go over case by case and it goes both ways. I don't remember all the details, but I think Harris did "OK" as a # 2 when Casie shipped him horses. He could perhaps follow the roadmap when she designed it and drew it up for him.
However, doing it all on your own requires an entirely new, additional, more skills. Both with babies and racehorses. There was one second trainer years ago who I thought without question had the talent and horsemanship to make it on his own, but I wasn't sure he ever had the financial backing, and other skills to be successful as a # 1 on his own. Managing a horse, campaigning him, managing the stable, the business, communicating with owners, picking spots, developing a campaign for a stakes or young horse, following the plan, and all that. It can be a whole different ball game. That trainer was Ed Howard. Am I biased? Maybe. Because I liked the guy. But that's what I thought. There are more that didn't make it than did.
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how could you not like the guy comunicating with owners (also known as BS) is a talent in its self probably more important than training ability
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Absolutely! Schmoozing clients is a huge part of the game. Not many better in my area than Mike Hall!
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how could you not like the guy comunicating with owners (also known as BS) is a talent in its self probably more important than training ability
I don't know if he's good or great at it. He's good enough to get this far! LOL.
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When it comes to schmoozing, selling, managing, an owner......or whatever you want to call it......there was nobody better, nobody ever......than Jerry Silverman.
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hw robbed his owners?
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Stop with the nonsense posts. Call out whoever HW is or don't even bother! tmbz1
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Does anyone remember Adam Victor? Same deal, he did the research, etc. Loaded Noel up, did really well. After going to Wharton, the kid saw this a waste of time. No challenge. Do you think he will ever come back. Pollock is using good proven trainers, with long track records.
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It's not only about the fun for Mr Pollack, it's about the massive write offs that is the most rewarding for his lucrative bank account.. he's making money from all angles.. there's a method of madness to beat the IRS fellas..
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Does anyone remember Adam Victor? Same deal, he did the research, etc. Loaded Noel up, did really well. After going to Wharton, the kid saw this a waste of time. No challenge. Do you think he will ever come back. Pollock is using good proven trainers, with long track records.
What proven trainers with long track records?
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This is certainly a business of self-expression. LOL.
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Every trainer should be as lucky as Andrew… you need owners like this to take you to the next level