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Title: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: sfdecoy on July 17, 2024, 08:45:34 PM
What an awful group of 2yr olds.

How many did he buy at the sale?

I realize the batting average in the yearling game is usually low, but he's got a barn full of Ratty Ass 2yr olds

His driving doesn't help. either.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Bitter Truth on July 17, 2024, 08:48:43 PM
It's all about Anthony. Just knows to send them. Torches them before they get a decent start to their careers.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Inside The Track on July 18, 2024, 08:22:30 AM
The Biggest And Best Con Game In Harness Racing. I Will Give Him Credit Figured How To Rip- Off A Lot A People A Little At A Time. When Will The SEC Investigate For Security Fraud. Great Ponzi Scheme.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on July 18, 2024, 02:50:57 PM
THAT GUY CANT TRAIN A PUPPY TO PISS ON PAPER
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: rainman2 on July 18, 2024, 03:43:10 PM
THAT GUY CANT TRAIN A PUPPY TO PISS ON PAPER

Just imagine if a real dedicated above board harness racing operation did this. (FYI, don’t t the t-Bred people  already do this more successfully with great success and little bad ‘backlash’)?
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: titans1127 on July 18, 2024, 09:07:22 PM
AMacs ego is why his Adios horse doesn't have a competent catch driver.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on July 18, 2024, 11:10:29 PM
Like the way he operates his business or not doesn't matter. He was selling an experience. Not a money making opportunity. He was simply selling the experience of horse ownership and if lightning struck, at a high, enjoyable level that only a few people ever experience. No different than West Point Thoroughbreds. Go listen to their sales pitch. It's about having a chance to experience the sport and business, and be involved with more than a rooting interest, and doing something that 99% of the people can never do. That's all. You can say he robs people, steals, cheats, whatever. I haven't seen any proof. You can also say he's an ambassador for the sport and industry and exposed countless numbers of people to the sport and industry who would never have had the chance. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes, jealousy, and wannabes who will never be.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: mgriffin on July 19, 2024, 07:46:05 AM
I come on this board as more of let’s see what stuff is being posted.
Sometimes there is some worthy info and others there is not.
These forums allow people to post seemingly what they want.
Unfortunately, some get very personal and the language of what they write is extreme, but then again, that’s the times we live in and our Leadership in this country does not help with their approach.

All this said, I do not know AMAC. I have been a harness fan for 30 years. I was a gambler first and as time went on, I have become a fan of the horses in general. I wanted to become an owner but do not have thousands to invest at a time. Say what you want about AMAC’s operation. Scheme this and scheme that. I see this as an opportunity to get involved at the lowest risk/reward possible. Have some fun with it and maybe, just maybe, be involved in a horse that does some great things. I knowingly know, I am not going to get rich doing it this way. That’s not my intention.
No operation gets everything right 100%.

I would argue that if you do not like his approach, of course that is fine, but to come on a platform and bash an individual personally is not classy.
Yes, freedom of speech this and freedom of speech that.
I was brought up that if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say it all.
Someone said it earlier. His approach is to open up opportunities for people to get involved. Promote the sport. He is doing that.
I will continue to be involved until a point in time comes where either my investments continue to be a negative or something within the stable becomes immoral or otherwise.

Until then, if you truly feel the need to post in such a negative manner and tone to meet some internal quota that satisfies your overall unhappiness, then good luck to you. I tend to simply ignore and be positive.

Wishing everyone the best of luck out there.

Unfortunately, I anticipate some negative comments at my post.
Fire away if you need to make yourself feel better. I feel bad for you.
My skin is thicker than anyone on here.
So you know, I won’t be replying to any of them.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: SAW on July 19, 2024, 07:49:20 AM
I come on this board as more of let’s see what stuff is being posted.
Sometimes there is some worthy info and others there is not.
These forums allow people to post seemingly what they want.
Unfortunately, some get very personal and the language of what they write is extreme, but then again, that’s the times we live in and our Leadership in this country does not help with their approach.

All this said, I do not know AMAC. I have been a harness fan for 30 years. I was a gambler first and as time went on, I have become a fan of the horses in general. I wanted to become an owner but do not have thousands to invest at a time. Say what you want about AMAC’s operation. Scheme this and scheme that. I see this as an opportunity to get involved at the lowest risk/reward possible. Have some fun with it and maybe, just maybe, be involved in a horse that does some great things. I knowingly know, I am not going to get rich doing it this way. That’s not my intention.
No operation gets everything right 100%.

I would argue that if you do not like his approach, of course that is fine, but to come on a platform and bash an individual personally is not classy.
Yes, freedom of speech this and freedom of speech that.
I was brought up that if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say it all.
Someone said it earlier. His approach is to open up opportunities for people to get involved. Promote the sport. He is doing that.
I will continue to be involved until a point in time comes where either my investments continue to be a negative or something within the stable becomes immoral or otherwise.

Until then, if you truly feel the need to post in such a negative manner and tone to meet some internal quota that satisfies your overall unhappiness, then good luck to you. I tend to simply ignore and be positive.

Wishing everyone the best of luck out there.

Unfortunately, I anticipate some negative comments at my post.
Fire away if you need to make yourself feel better. I feel bad for you.
My skin is thicker than anyone on here.
So you know, I won’t be replying to any of them.


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Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: The Unstable on July 19, 2024, 08:51:46 AM
The problem is not that AMAC makes money, it is that he is bilking his clients.  I think the idea of the stable is great, making money is great but overcharging way above normal is not something that should be ignored or given a pass.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Kole Hanover on July 19, 2024, 09:34:40 AM

 I know someone personally who was making abit buying and selling shares, they got pretty much told cant keep doing that and account shut down
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Kole Hanover on July 19, 2024, 05:29:45 PM
Like the way he operates his business or not doesn't matter. He was selling an experience. Not a money making opportunity. He was simply selling the experience of horse ownership and if lightning struck, at a high, enjoyable level that only a few people ever experience. No different than West Point Thoroughbreds. Go listen to their sales pitch. It's about having a chance to experience the sport and business, and be involved with more than a rooting interest, and doing something that 99% of the people can never do. That's all. You can say he robs people, steals, cheats, whatever. I haven't seen any proof. You can also say he's an ambassador for the sport and industry and exposed countless numbers of people to the sport and industry who would never have had the chance. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes, jealousy, and wannabes who will never be.


 Little bit diff than West point, have you had horses with him?
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: seen2much on July 19, 2024, 09:49:20 PM
Amac started a business for himself. He has limited driving skills. Give him credit for getting owners. No one is forced to buy in.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: rainman2 on July 19, 2024, 11:46:11 PM
AMacs ego is why his Adios horse doesn't have a competent catch driver.

Would Aaron Merriman be a better choice?
Asking for a friend!
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: sfdecoy on July 20, 2024, 01:17:24 AM
I come on this board as more of let’s see what stuff is being posted.
Sometimes there is some worthy info and others there is not.
These forums allow people to post seemingly what they want.
Unfortunately, some get very personal and the language of what they write is extreme, but then again, that’s the times we live in and our Leadership in this country does not help with their approach.

All this said, I do not know AMAC. I have been a harness fan for 30 years. I was a gambler first and as time went on, I have become a fan of the horses in general. I wanted to become an owner but do not have thousands to invest at a time. Say what you want about AMAC’s operation. Scheme this and scheme that. I see this as an opportunity to get involved at the lowest risk/reward possible. Have some fun with it and maybe, just maybe, be involved in a horse that does some great things. I knowingly know, I am not going to get rich doing it this way. That’s not my intention.
No operation gets everything right 100%.

I would argue that if you do not like his approach, of course that is fine, but to come on a platform and bash an individual personally is not classy.
Yes, freedom of speech this and freedom of speech that.
I was brought up that if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say it all.
Someone said it earlier. His approach is to open up opportunities for people to get involved. Promote the sport. He is doing that.
I will continue to be involved until a point in time comes where either my investments continue to be a negative or something within the stable becomes immoral or otherwise.

Until then, if you truly feel the need to post in such a negative manner and tone to meet some internal quota that satisfies your overall unhappiness, then good luck to you. I tend to simply ignore and be positive.

Wishing everyone the best of luck out there.

Unfortunately, I anticipate some negative comments at my post.
Fire away if you need to make yourself feel better. I feel bad for you.
My skin is thicker than anyone on here.
So you know, I won’t be replying to any of them.


A thoughtful post and your points are well-taken.

I'll finish/sum up/restate my thoughts that I firmly believe there's a helluva a lot of gaslighting that goes on from Amac.

That's quite easy to decipher and that's a non-starter with me.

Too many lies- in Amac's case bullshit- being thrown out.

I ain't down with that.

But if you think can sign off/look the other way/ on the BS, go for it, pal.

I'd rather "call it as I hear it."

I'm a fan of honesty--you do you--and take up for a con. 
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: brownmoose13 on July 20, 2024, 09:19:11 AM
Amac lives a cost free life...example he and his wife go out for a nice $100 dinner...spreadin g that over his owners who is going to complain about 20 cents. The only reason he bought Timeisonmyside is so that he can drive in the Adios and probably the Jug. It looks like his brother James is at The Meadows today but would Amac let him driver....not 100% sure but probably not. This is just another example of where he puts his ego before the owners.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Brown jug on July 20, 2024, 10:43:16 AM
should be another batch of two year olds getting dumped in the next sale
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Mazola on July 20, 2024, 04:44:24 PM
Amac lives a cost free life...example he and his wife go out for a nice $100 dinner...spreadin g that over his owners who is going to complain about 20 cents. The only reason he bought Timeisonmyside is so that he can drive in the Adios and probably the Jug. It looks like his brother James is at The Meadows today but would Amac let him driver....not 100% sure but probably not. This is just another example of where he puts his ego before the owners.

Nice second for Amac ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Swandre on July 20, 2024, 06:01:17 PM
Amac lives a cost free life...example he and his wife go out for a nice $100 dinner...spreadin g that over his owners who is going to complain about 20 cents. The only reason he bought Timeisonmyside is so that he can drive in the Adios and probably the Jug. It looks like his brother James is at The Meadows today but would Amac let him driver....not 100% sure but probably not. This is just another example of where he puts his ego before the owners.

they bought him as a yearling over a year and a half ago
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Brown jug on July 20, 2024, 06:59:46 PM
looked solid
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: brownmoose13 on July 20, 2024, 10:15:16 PM
they bought him as a yearling over a year and a half ago

You are right.
Had him confused with another horse but the bottom line is how is that working out for the partners money wise?? Has not even paid his training bills not to mention the $165K purchase price. Could not believe that in his video he said he drove the horse since he knows the track...the only thing Amac knows is to leave and keep going left.
I do have another financial angle for him to make more money..start collecting and selling mucus since for some reason his horses have cornered the market.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: sfdecoy on July 21, 2024, 06:17:33 PM
The 2yr old video he put today reveals what a total con AMac is
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: brownmoose13 on July 21, 2024, 10:21:24 PM
How much mucus did Save America have last night???? Nice purchase again by Amac
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: brownmoose13 on July 21, 2024, 11:42:31 PM
Maybe Greatest Ending had more mucus than Save America...both are wonderful purchases by the OPM Stable...better known as Other Peoples Money.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: rainman2 on July 22, 2024, 12:18:12 AM
looked solid

Give him a little credit--he outdrove ronnie wrenn Jr. finishing 2nd in the photo and beat 2 burke horses, and a toscano horse.  they held their own against one of the better 3 year olds in north america too.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: The Unstable on July 22, 2024, 12:27:26 AM
Give him a little credit--he outdrove ronnie wrenn Jr. finishing 2nd in the photo and beat 2 burke horses, and a toscano horse.  they held their own against one of the better 3 year olds in north america too.

They buy like a hundred yearlings per year. They have lost millions over the last few years. No non Stable owner would buy a yearling for him to have. 
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: rainman2 on July 22, 2024, 12:49:03 AM
They buy like a hundred yearlings per year. They have lost millions over the last few years. No non Stable owner would buy a yearling for him to have.

All it takes is one!  Many owners & trainers would love to be where he is with this horse!

Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: Inside The Track on July 22, 2024, 07:19:53 AM
Rainman the horse is nothing special, he is a one track horse the Meadows. The Adios came up ivery weak.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: brownmoose13 on July 22, 2024, 08:14:27 AM
Time had the rail, never left it while others raced their horses. Depending on the draw he will probably not get a check in the final even though he will most likely leave the gate in Amac fashion. Would he swallow his ego and let someone else drive...no as for some reason he thinks he knows the track better than anyone else. He is trying to show he is a Grand Circuit driver when in reality he does much better at the fairs and for some reason, ego again, he has only raced at one fair this year. With Time add his purchase price ($165K) and the all the bills
 (about $75K so far)and subtract the purse earnings ($71K) and what he worth and its another large loss
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: PineHurstPacer on July 22, 2024, 08:44:12 AM
Time had the rail, never left it while others raced their horses. Depending on the draw he will probably not get a check in the final even though he will most likely leave the gate in Amac fashion. Would he swallow his ego and let someone else drive...no as for some reason he thinks he knows the track better than anyone else. He is trying to show he is a Grand Circuit driver when in reality he does much better at the fairs and for some reason, ego again, he has only raced at one fair this year. With Time add his purchase price ($165K) and the all the bills
 (about $75K so far)and subtract the purse earnings ($71K) and what he worth and its another large loss

I've never seen anyone live absolutely rent free in someone's head than AM does in yours.

He request you continue to watch all his videos, as he averages $4-5K a month revenue from his youtube views.
He appreciates your support.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: halfinhalfout on July 22, 2024, 08:57:02 AM
The same principles for 'The Stable' are employed by 'Myracehorse'.  I know people in both groups, some are happy, some are not.
For a savvy owner these offer little chance for a big lick....but for a person looking to get their feet wet its not bad.
At least with the standardbreds you get to see your horse race more frequently than the runners race, and its obviously a given that not every two year old gets to the races.
I do however take serious issue with AMAC as a driver.  When he was still racing in Canada I used to watch in amusement as
the 'boys' would try to boat him home.....usually to no avail.  I mean they used to mail this guy, couldn't drive a hot nail in a snowbank.
Watch the replay of the PA Sires July 12th, race 5........he almost took Boyd's horses front legs off as he cut down to the rail when they boiled out of there.  AMAC has no regard for anyone else or the horse they drive....that drive alone should have cost him 10 days.
Title: Re: The Stable (Full of Rats, LLC)
Post by: bello on July 22, 2024, 12:31:28 PM
I don't say this often but AMAC is one of the drivers racing now that will blatantly go dead with no regard for appearance or integrity. . I have seen this at Northfield and Meadows. I have called judges only once in the last decade and it was based on a meadows drive by this guy.

He is not one of the good guys.
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