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Title: Karl and Yannick
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on August 03, 2024, 04:49:43 PM
Great drive!! Great horse!!
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: TimTimTimbo on August 03, 2024, 04:52:39 PM
Yep, Only problem I have was the effed-up weather.

He is a great horse.

Highland Kismet is going to get better and better.

TCI does not have the talent of the 1st two.

Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Papillon on August 03, 2024, 04:55:10 PM
It was an unusually excellent drive by YG

Karl is gutsy and very good but won because he tripped out

Sig Sauer was better blocked at least 3x sitting in pocket
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: shotgunner on August 03, 2024, 04:56:19 PM
Great drive!! Great horse!!

Probably shouldn't be taken down, but Yannick deserves a huge fine for clipping Kismet while celebrating well before the line.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 03, 2024, 04:59:08 PM
Kismet was awesome also
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: TimTimTimbo on August 03, 2024, 05:01:35 PM
Kismet was awesome also

Yes he was. 

I hope they race Karl next year, but you just know the $$$ for stud duties are beckoning


Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on August 03, 2024, 05:10:56 PM
I crushed the exacta. I can't believe how much it paid.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: TimTimTimbo on August 03, 2024, 05:23:32 PM
I crushed the exacta. I can't believe how much it paid.

Yeah, that was a great price.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on August 03, 2024, 05:24:30 PM
Yeah, that was a great price.
tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: The Unstable on August 03, 2024, 05:29:32 PM
Yes he was. 

I hope they race Karl next year, but you just know the $$$ for stud duties are beckoning

Not sound enough either.  Buyer beware , not one Tatker trotting stude has turned out to be good.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on August 03, 2024, 05:32:26 PM
Not sound enough either.  Buyer beware , not one Tatker trotting stude has turned out to be good.
Yeah, you're right. Tactical Landing has only sired the last 2 Hambo winners. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: shotgunner on August 03, 2024, 05:36:13 PM
Not sound enough either.  Buyer beware , not one Tatker trotting stude has turned out to be good.
I mean, Tactical Landing is off to a pretty great start. Although Jimmy only had him for his 3 yr old year I think. Father Patrick is pretty good. But there's been a few that have way under performed, you are correct.

I do think you are right about the soundness with Karl though. I'd be surprised if he raced more than 5 or 6 more starts.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on August 03, 2024, 05:41:59 PM
Probably shouldn't be taken down, but Yannick deserves a huge fine for clipping Kismet while celebrating well before the line.

Absolutely - he smacked sig saur too and cost him 3rd Go watch replay and see his head bob
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on August 03, 2024, 05:44:02 PM
Not sound enough either.  Buyer beware , not one Tatker trotting stude has turned out to be good.
Takter's studs just finished 1-2 in the Hambo.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on August 03, 2024, 05:53:54 PM
Takter lives on Tildren and Osphos.  He trains them so hard they are lamos.  He has used this for years and will routinely inject every joint on a horse before a big race.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Gaagoots on August 03, 2024, 06:24:18 PM
Great drive!! Great horse!!
tmbz1
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Gaagoots on August 03, 2024, 06:27:03 PM
Takter lives on Tildren and Osphos.  He trains them so hard they are lamos.  He has used this for years and will routinely inject every joint on a horse before a big race.
Question what could you possibly inject every joint with that doesn't show positive? Hyaluronic acid use a steady basis is useless there's nothing like Depo-Medrol cortisone and that shows positive.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on August 03, 2024, 08:15:23 PM
Question what could you possibly inject every joint with that doesn't show positive? Hyaluronic acid use a steady basis is useless there's nothing like Depo-Medrol cortisone and that shows positive.

Your living in the stone ages.  There are plenty of things you can use that will not test that are beneficial to joints.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Laag on August 03, 2024, 10:23:37 PM
Karl was awesome....one of the most exciting Hambo races ever....it seemed like the entire crowd was cheering him and shouting his name in the stretch. You had to be there but the pouring rain and it looked for just a bit that Karl wasnt going to catch him just added to the experience. Yannik found another gear and it was over. Tripped out my ass, he earned that.

where the morons who called Karl crippled all year long
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Jazzman on August 03, 2024, 11:25:37 PM
all big time trainers do joints before every race some also right after
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on August 03, 2024, 11:37:55 PM
all big time trainers do joints before every race some also right after

Not everyone use what Yimmy does!
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: The Unstable on August 04, 2024, 12:33:54 AM
Yeah, you're right. Tactical Landing has only sired the last 2 Hambo winners. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Did Tatker have him when he was 2? Nope. Look at all the others that were duds. You go spend 30k to breed to Karl. I’ll pass.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on August 04, 2024, 12:37:32 AM
Did Tatker have him when he was 2? Nope. Look at all the others that were duds. You go spend 30k to breed to Karl. I’ll pass.
I suggest you get a lobotomy. It only cost 20k.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: The Unstable on August 04, 2024, 07:40:15 AM
I suggest you get a lobotomy. It only cost 20k.

So again did Tayler have Tatical landing at two? Tatter dud studs Gucci, lagerfeld, father patriick, muscle massive, Triston, pastor stephen. Kadabra and Malabar man he did not have at two. Do you see a trend.

Even if I got a half lobotomy I still would be smarter than you. I’m a stable genius.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: seen2much on August 04, 2024, 07:45:13 AM
Karl & Gringras got the job done. It was a perfect trip. TCI was disappointing, Highland Kismet raced huge, Sig Sauer angled late & was decent, & Amazing Catch finished with good trot up the cones.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on August 04, 2024, 10:25:20 AM
So again did Tayler have Tatical landing at two? Tatter dud studs Gucci, lagerfeld, father patriick, muscle massive, Triston, pastor stephen. Kadabra and Malabar man he did not have at two. Do you see a trend.

Even if I got a half lobotomy I still would be smarter than you. I’m a stable genius.
You're a dip shit that needs help. The only trend regarding the Takters is how many Hambos they win. Did the bump on your head when your mother dropped you as a baby ever go away?
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Papillon on August 04, 2024, 05:45:39 PM
Not sound enough either.  Buyer beware , not one Tatker trotting stude has turned out to be good.

Father Patrick?


Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Third Over on August 04, 2024, 07:26:55 PM
Takter is top 3 all time best ever in the game, jus remember he trained a Hambo winner that Malvern Boroughs drove ffs.!! A feat that will never be repeated,ever..
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Gaagoots on August 04, 2024, 08:20:44 PM
Your living in the stone ages.  There are plenty of things you can use that will not test that are beneficial to joints.
LIKE????Please enlighten us!
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: SDST2009 on August 04, 2024, 08:57:04 PM
Karl was awesome....one of the most exciting Hambo races ever....it seemed like the entire crowd was cheering him and shouting his name in the stretch. You had to be there but the pouring rain and it looked for just a bit that Karl wasnt going to catch him just added to the experience. Yannik found another gear and it was over. Tripped out my ass, he earned that.

where the morons who called Karl crippled all year long

Karl looked great the last two weeks, and I was one who said he looked off prior. And I stand by that.

I also think before the end of the year, Kismet will beat him. He absolutely did trip out. I am not saying he wouldn't have won anyway - he looked bionic this week - but I don't know how anyone can prove it one way or another.

On another note..Burkes pretty clearly cooked TCI last year. He's a shell of his 2yo self.

From their standpoint, "oh well," I guess. They got plenty of money out of him last year and I'm sure he will still be syndicated and stand at a decent farm.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Mrpick5 on August 06, 2024, 02:17:01 AM
Karl was awesome....one of the most exciting Hambo races ever....it seemed like the entire crowd was cheering him and shouting his name in the stretch. You had to be there but the pouring rain and it looked for just a bit that Karl wasnt going to catch him just added to the experience. Yannik found another gear and it was over. Tripped out my ass, he earned that.

where the morons who called Karl crippled all year long
Reverse the trips and Highland Kismet wins. I don’t know what race you watched. McClure did all the work coming first over into a monsoon and only lost by a length. While Karl. In my opinion interfered with 2 horses in the stretch drive. Karl absolutely tripped out. As soon as he let McClure in. He was guaranteed a 2nd over tow.
Title: Re: Karl and Yannick
Post by: Frankie T on August 07, 2024, 07:42:41 AM
Reverse the trips and Highland Kismet wins. I don’t know what race you watched. McClure did all the work coming first over into a monsoon and only lost by a length. While Karl. In my opinion interfered with 2 horses in the stretch drive. Karl absolutely tripped out. As soon as he let McClure in. He was guaranteed a 2nd over tow.

Your explanation is 100% on the mark. Of the three favorites, Karl got the easiest trip. TCI was parked out on a turn during the fastest quarter of the race then was on the front for the fastest half of the race. Highland Kismet was first over while Karl drafted from second over. People greatly underestimate the difference drafting makes.

A race is the combination of the horses and the drivers. Gingras gave Karl a perfect trip, McClure gave his horse a chance to win. Given the conditions, Miller probably went too fast in the first quarter and to the half. The next time they meet, anyone one of them could win if they get a good trip. On this day Karl was the best based on ability and perfect drive.
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