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Title: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 12, 2024, 08:16:30 PM
Comical. $10-20,000 a race
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Sam R on August 13, 2024, 10:09:16 AM
Actually last night was one of the lowest at $360000 for a 10 race card. Maybe you are just looking at the win pool.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: theokodjak26 on August 13, 2024, 10:16:25 AM
I am always surprised that Monticello has a per race handle that is significantly higher than Yonkers. Unless it is due to an afternoon track versus a nighttime track, YR has much better horses and drivers.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Papillon on August 13, 2024, 11:25:09 AM
I am always surprised that Monticello has a per race handle that is significantly higher than Yonkers. Unless it is due to an afternoon track versus a nighttime track, YR has much better horses and drivers.

Monticello has a very faithful fan base supporting their horrible racing

also, their signal is very popular at Lexington-where they pay a little extra to bet on the first turn
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: PIGLAND on August 13, 2024, 12:35:08 PM
yonkers is a waste ofgood money
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: seriously on August 13, 2024, 12:37:07 PM
The Yonkers handle has suffered because they have shut betting off earlier and inconsistently.  Their choice, but also bettor's choice of where to wager. 
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: PIGLAND on August 13, 2024, 12:42:52 PM
The Yonkers handle has suffered because they have shut betting off earlier and inconsistently.  Their choice, but also bettor's choice of where to wager.
i stopped betting jonkers because of the cheating
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: SAW on August 13, 2024, 12:56:40 PM
Monticello has a very faithful fan base supporting their horrible racing

also, their signal is very popular at Lexington-where they pay a little extra to bet on the first turn

You just keep throwing this shit out there............ .... ITS NOT TRUE, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU REPEAT IT!
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: yonkersjeff on August 13, 2024, 01:57:31 PM

       The handle is awful because Mr Alex Dadoyan has told me that the handle doesn't matter. He asked me how to make the handle better.
   When I said to be on tvg all the time, his comment was "they only put on the races when they want and then they  bill Yonkers"
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: sledge hammer on August 13, 2024, 06:02:22 PM
The Yonkers handle has suffered because they have shut betting off earlier and inconsistently.  Their choice, but also bettor's choice of where to wager.

Is this true? I was thinking something like this, or they stopped with the computer guys.
We know how bad as their product is and now also add in 5 and 6 horse fields the norm every night. the handle has fallen off a cliff, literally down 35-40%.
It's beyond alarming.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Papillon on August 13, 2024, 07:17:02 PM
       The handle is awful because Mr Alex Dadoyan has told me that the handle doesn't matter. He asked me how to make the handle better.
   When I said to be on tvg all the time, his comment was "they only put on the races when they want and then they  bill Yonkers"

Yonkers has no say as to when FanDuel/TVG air races

if you have the FanDuel app via Firestick or Roku...most of the tracks are there and you can watch on a big TV
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: JT on August 14, 2024, 12:59:23 AM
I think there handle is bad because of when they race, lots of drug trainers and boring racing with little movement. There is not enough banking on that track and hasn't been for years.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 14, 2024, 07:19:57 AM
It’s amazing how we all know about the drug trainers and this race secretary lets everybody in. I would suggest that everyone on this board stops wagering on Yonkers. At least we know then that we’re not contributing to it until they decide to finally do something.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: sfdecoy on August 14, 2024, 07:05:22 PM
You just keep throwing this shit out there............ .... ITS NOT TRUE, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU REPEAT IT!


I quit betting Yonkers LONG ago due to the lack of policing of the drugging trainers.

Biggest purses just attracts the biggest cheaters.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: JT on August 14, 2024, 07:34:10 PM
Nobody should throw a dime at that place.. it's the wild west of drugs and corruption
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 14, 2024, 07:36:39 PM
Nice 1/9 to start the night. Nice to see Brian and Ira Wallach make a claim with another trainer. These guys must have 5 trainers.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: JT on August 14, 2024, 08:09:07 PM
It's unwatchable and you can't make a dime there betting
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 14, 2024, 09:08:15 PM
Keep up the 1/9’s. $200,000 with 3 races to go. Let’s keep it under 300!!
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: JT on August 14, 2024, 09:16:01 PM
Keep up the 1/9’s. $200,000 with 3 races to go. Let’s keep it under 300!!
It will be.. I don't know how they pull in that much
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 14, 2024, 09:36:23 PM
Because these trainers are betting. Why did Dowse always open up at 1/9? Wasn’t anyone in the public.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 15, 2024, 03:24:36 AM
They got a miraculous jump in the last race to clear 300. Josh must have gone crazy on the last race on Per’s horse.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 15, 2024, 03:33:51 PM
2 amateur races tonight should bail them out a little, but hopefully not much.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: seen2much on August 15, 2024, 09:25:39 PM
A serious question for all. I saw two threads where SBOA NY claims a casino owes them money. Did Yonkers run 5 & 6 horse fields to intentionally reduce the handle? This way they could complain for reimbursement. Crazy thought or not?
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 15, 2024, 11:02:52 PM
Yonkers does 5 and 6 horse fields because Fraser is a piece of shit. He wants all his druggie friends to steal purse money for their owners. How much money he must get in kickbacks must be astronomical. It’s the same handful of trainers winning every race. Nobody does a damn thing and it’s sickening.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on August 16, 2024, 06:55:10 AM
Yonkers does 5 and 6 horse fields because Fraser is a piece of shit. He wants all his druggie friends to steal purse money for their owners. How much money he must get in kickbacks must be astronomical. It’s the same handful of trainers winning every race. Nobody does a damn thing and it’s sickening.

Faraldo is the peak of the pyramid. Frasure #2. Dadoyan is too busy in Florida with his "friends". Worse is if you're a little guy with a nice horse, the fucking drivers will shake you down too. Either sell your horse or you're gone. Ask Mike Rizzo what happened to him when he wouldn't sell his mare last year. Suddenly his entries weren't being accepted. Then this happened in January. Direct from an Assistant Race Secretary's mouth. https://youtu.be/H3cjtwLa7a4
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Yonkers1A on August 16, 2024, 07:11:21 AM
Faraldo is the peak of the pyramid. Frasure #2. Dadoyan is too busy in Florida with his "friends". Worse is if you're a little guy with a nice horse, the fucking drivers will shake you down too. Either sell your horse or you're gone. Ask Mike Rizzo what happened to him when he wouldn't sell his mare last year. Suddenly his entries weren't being accepted. Then this happened in January. Direct from an Assistant Race Secretary's mouth. https://youtu.be/H3cjtwLa7a4


You are correct Mike, Yonkers is an ATM for a select few and Faraldough is directing the show.

Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 16, 2024, 07:22:09 AM
Faraldo is the peak of the pyramid. Frasure #2. Dadoyan is too busy in Florida with his "friends". Worse is if you're a little guy with a nice horse, the fucking drivers will shake you down too. Either sell your horse or you're gone. Ask Mike Rizzo what happened to him when he wouldn't sell his mare last year. Suddenly his entries weren't being accepted. Then this happened in January. Direct from an Assistant Race Secretary's mouth. https://youtu.be/H3cjtwLa7a4

Holy shit!!! “I don’t call the shots”. What an asshole. I pray that any day MGM gets a license to have slots without a horse track and this shithole gets shut down.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 23, 2024, 07:26:02 AM
Faraldo is the peak of the pyramid. Frasure #2. Dadoyan is too busy in Florida with his "friends". Worse is if you're a little guy with a nice horse, the fucking drivers will shake you down too. Either sell your horse or you're gone. Ask Mike Rizzo what happened to him when he wouldn't sell his mare last year. Suddenly his entries weren't being accepted. Then this happened in January. Direct from an Assistant Race Secretary's mouth. https://youtu.be/H3cjtwLa7a4

Everyone, if you a minute, please post this to every social media outlet. They need to be exposed!!
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: sledge hammer on August 25, 2024, 02:06:50 PM
Last night, Saturday, 12 race card, not a single pool over $10K in handle. It's inconceivable that the handle has dropped off as much as it has the last few years. Every race seems like $20-$25K .
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Jctoronto on August 25, 2024, 03:55:41 PM
Was it the 4th sat night, def one of the earlier races, .total show pool. 811 u.s.?

(Toronto GTA off tracks.quite often Yonkers Sat pm one of those tracks you have to ask to get on tv)


Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: sledge hammer on August 25, 2024, 04:05:18 PM
Was it the 4th sat night, def one of the earlier races, .total show pool. 811 u.s.?

(Toronto GTA off tracks.quite often Yonkers Sat pm one of those tracks you have to ask to get on tv)

I've seen smaller pools than that.
I have to believe they take steps to intentionally destroy what's left of the handle...all these 5 and 6 horse races with no effort to get full fields.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: toothman on August 25, 2024, 09:58:23 PM
How does the Yonkers handle compare with Monti?
Yonkers killed the golden goose. Gavones.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Papillon on August 25, 2024, 10:24:54 PM
How does the Yonkers handle compare with Monti?
Yonkers killed the golden goose. Gavones.

Monticello handles almost 2x that of Yonkers
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 26, 2024, 07:07:21 AM
At least you can drop your horse in at Monticello without having permission, the horse you busted your behind on all week, secretary there doesn't stop you from racing he'll take anyone within reason.  All starts at the top

Eric Warner is a class act. Too bad the purses there are so low.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on August 30, 2024, 07:14:39 PM
Nice 1/5 shot to start the night. Travis scratched, probably killed the horse
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on August 30, 2024, 07:38:56 PM
Simple. Whether the handle is a dollar or a million dollars, the money taken through VLTs is guaranteed. And nobody watches the store. Lord Faraldo controls every penny.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Mr Feinstein on August 31, 2024, 08:35:09 PM
Eric Warner is a class act. Too bad the purses there are so low.
Eric is a nice man.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on September 01, 2024, 03:27:14 PM
Simple. Whether the handle is a dollar or a million dollars, the money taken through VLTs is guaranteed. And nobody watches the store. Lord Faraldo controls every penny.

What’s VLT’s?
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Yonkers1A on September 01, 2024, 03:33:58 PM
What’s VLT’s?

Video Lottery Terminal, you hit the button a signal goes to Albany, scratches a ticket for you and you lose $5
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Bernie Madoff on September 01, 2024, 03:45:28 PM
Video Lottery Terminal, you hit the button a signal goes to Albany, scratches a ticket for you and you lose $5





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Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: Slobbert23 on September 01, 2024, 10:11:27 PM
Eric is a nice man.

Happy the purses are going up there. I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before some of these Yonkers trainers want to go there. He shouldn’t let them in.
Title: Re: Yonkers handle
Post by: theokodjak26 on September 02, 2024, 02:36:57 AM
Purses at MR have gone up somewhat but it wouldn’t be enough to leave Yonkers Raceway. Not to mention the added travel costs. It also looks like Yonkers has a shortage of horses but they still card 9-11 races where MR has only 7 races half the time.
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