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Title: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 05, 2024, 05:08:37 PM
What is everyone's predictions on this heavyweight battle? They are the two best 3 yr olds this year going head to head, one win each.  Do they just put in a training mile and finish as planned by the barn or race each other tough ? 

My prediction is Nijinsky comes off Legendary's helmet and wins.  His only blemish is Meadowlands pace where he never saw the rail on a tough tough trip and finished a great 2nd.  Let me know your thoughts and predictions?
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Mazola on September 05, 2024, 07:29:37 PM
I'll take Legendary Hanover only because I like the driver and don't think he will fuck up again ngc3
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: JT on September 05, 2024, 08:32:55 PM
Legendary by a nose.. Last race for both until the jug
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Lance on September 06, 2024, 07:33:37 AM
Should be a good one. I’ll go with Nijinsky. I think he’ll get a trip and seems to be a pretty handy horse. James has emerged as a top driver anywhere but I like LP Roy just as much. Very capable driver.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Mazola on September 08, 2024, 11:16:40 AM
Easy win for Nijinsky and another 1-2 for Casie.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Brown jug on September 08, 2024, 01:30:38 PM
gassie coleman, andrew harris is on line 1 , says its urgent !!!
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 09, 2024, 12:14:04 AM
Nice race for the Simcoe. Interesting both are going to the Jug. Another impressive 1-2 finish for Coleman connections.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: BoKnows on September 09, 2024, 12:22:50 AM
If Nijinsky is anywhere close at the top of the stretch he wins.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on September 09, 2024, 01:17:02 AM
If they enter Legendary in the Jug they are making a nice donation because he has zero chance on a half!  I don't think he can beat a good field of horses the rest of the year UNLESS he can brush to lead and get far away from them like he did at Meadowlands.  This horse has shown anytime he gets looked in the eye or roughed up a bit he quits like a little bitch.  He's pea hearted speed rat and won't make a sire!
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: hoosierboy on September 09, 2024, 10:51:27 AM
Nijinsky
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: BoKnows on September 10, 2024, 01:06:48 AM
If they enter Legendary in the Jug they are making a nice donation because he has zero chance on a half!  I don't think he can beat a good field of horses the rest of the year UNLESS he can brush to lead and get far away from them like he did at Meadowlands.  This horse has shown anytime he gets looked in the eye or roughed up a bit he quits like a little bitch.  He's pea hearted speed rat and won't make a sire!

They are sending him to the Jug. I am sure it's not a donation, he should get a check regardless of how the race goes.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Miguel_Sanchez on September 10, 2024, 01:24:42 AM
If there is more than two divisions and he makes the final he won't see a check!
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Ramone on September 10, 2024, 02:42:18 AM
If there is more than two divisions and he makes the final he won't see a check!

He's had 20 lifetime starts. He's only finished out of the top 2 twice. He's the fastest horse this year. It seems unlikely that he would go home empty handed.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Lance on September 10, 2024, 06:50:40 AM
He's had 20 lifetime starts. He's only finished out of the top 2 twice. He's the fastest horse this year. It seems unlikely that he would go home empty handed.
Legendary will be fine on a 1/2. Like always the draw is so important. Nikjinski is just so handy and so sharp, and LP Roy is underrated, he can drive with anyone at any track. He’ll be tough to beat.  Captians Quarters is also going to surprise them all one of these starts.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Grandstand Handicapper on September 11, 2024, 12:33:57 PM
He's had 20 lifetime starts. He's only finished out of the top 2 twice. He's the fastest horse this year. It seems unlikely that he would go home empty handed.

Good point. If he quits like a bitch...you are right...18 out of 20 first or second...I guess he's only quit twice this year. LOL.

I think the Jug can be an anomaly and enigmatic race. Only a truly great horse can overcome bad post/bad trip. I am not saying he's one, but that's why the run the races, LOL.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: JT on September 11, 2024, 08:47:10 PM
Good point. If he quits like a bitch...you are right...18 out of 20 first or second...I guess he's only quit twice this year. LOL.

I think the Jug can be an anomaly and enigmatic race. Only a truly great horse can overcome bad post/bad trip. I am not saying he's one, but that's why the run the races, LOL.
There are 2 big factors with these 2 for the LBJ.. post draw AND most importantly is how each would handle a second heat.. It will be the first and only time either horse would race 2 heats.. Nobody on here can honestly say which one would handle the 2nd heat better. So flip a coin and enjoy the showdown.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Frankie T on September 12, 2024, 08:19:49 AM
There are 2 big factors with these 2 for the LBJ.. post draw AND most importantly is how each would handle a second heat.. It will be the first and only time either horse would race 2 heats.. Nobody on here can honestly say which one would handle the 2nd heat better. So flip a coin and enjoy the showdown.

It also depends on how they are trained. In the first Breeders Crown when Dragon's Lair upset Nihilator, it was later revealed, Jeff Mallet would go out on the track after Dragon's Lair would race and go another mile. Essentially Jeff Mallet outdid the big boys.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Hoof Hearted on September 12, 2024, 10:27:17 AM
Casie's two horses will be ready for the Jug and trained to handle the 2 heats.  Beaton worked for her and has been involved with winning Jug horses from the past.  Post position is the biggest factor.
Title: Re: nijinsky vs legendary hanover, Saturday night @ Mohawk. Who wins?
Post by: Harness Stats on September 12, 2024, 11:06:27 AM
IMO Nijinsky is better suited for the half mile track.  He has a quicker brush and more gate speed than Legendary, and the four turns may take something out of the bigger horse. Having to do it twice may be too much.  Unless Legendary draws the rail in the final I think Nijinsky has the clear advantage.
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