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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: wizardofoz on September 27, 2024, 03:42:15 PM
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RACE 8 - Hollywood Gaming Dayton Raceway - OH - September 28, 2024
Conditions: THE DAYTON OAKS DERBY GRAND CIRCUIT STAKE 3 YEAR OLDS & UP
Gait: Trot Purse: 250,000 Class: DTN DERBY Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 9:04 PM
PP Horse Med 2024 North America YTD Driver Trainer ML Claim
Equip Sts W P S Time Earnings Stable Odds Price
1 Refined L 19 8 5 0 1:51.2F $182714 Dan Noble Virgil Morgan Jr 5-1
2 Forceful Power L 15 2 4 2 1:53.2F $69270 Yannick Gingras Hugh Beatty 20-1
3 Swanya L 9 3 1 0 Q1:53.2S $30630 John De Long Melissa Essig 20-1
4 Pioneer As 12 4 4 2 1:52.1F $138952 Tony Hall Anette Lorentzon 10-1
5 Call Me Goo 10 5 2 0 1:51.2S $175579 Ake Svanstedt Ake Svanstedt 7-2
6 Jiggy Jog S 5 5 0 0 1:49.2M $809188 Dexter Dunn Ake Svanstedt 7-5
7 M-m`s Dream L 13 6 4 0 1:50.4M $260953 David Miller Henry Graber Jr. 9-2
8 Tactical Mounds 14 5 0 3 1:49.4M $157585 Scott Zeron Megan Scran 8-1
9 Jusmakinyalook L† 13 4 2 1 1:53.2S $34856 Robert Taylor Robert Taylor 20-1
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Up against the beast...Jiggy Jog S
Nice race.
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Jiggy...Jogs! She is unreal. Any chance of even money?
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Any chance of 1-2, NO!
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This is Jiggy Jog's first start this year against strictly females.
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Ake got Call Me Goo up for 2nd place!
RACE 8 - Hollywood Gaming Dayton Raceway - OH - September 28, 2024*** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS ***
Conditions: THE DAYTON OAKS DERBY GRAND CIRCUIT STAKE 3 YEAR OLDS & UP
Gait: Trot Purse: 250,000 Class: DTN DERBY Distance: 1 Mile Track Cond: WF Temp-Allow: 67-1
HN Horse PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Finish Actual LQ Odds Driver Trainer
6 Jiggy Jog S 6 4/2H 1/1H 1/1H 1/4 1/3Q 1:52.1 28.3 *0.05 Dexter Dunn Ake Svanstedt
5 Call Me Goo 5 1°/NS 3/3 4/3 2/4 2/3Q 1:52.4 28.3 11.60 Ake Svanstedt Ake Svanstedt
7 M-m`s Dream 7 2°°/NS 2/1H 2/1H 3/4H 3/5T 1:53.2 29.3 14.40 David Miller Henry Graber Jr.
8 Tactical Mounds 8 8/8H 8/10H 7°/6Q 8/8H 4/7Q 1:53.3 28.4 66.20 Scott Zeron Megan Scran
3 Swanya 3 7/7 7/9 8/6T 6/7 5/7T 1:53.4 28.4 96.80 John De Long Melissa Essig
1 Refined 1 5/4 5/6 6°/4H 7/8H 6/8 1:53.4 29.2 16.40 Dan Noble Virgil Morgan Jr
2 Forceful Power 2 6/5H 6/7H 5/4H 4/5H 7/8H 1:53.4 29.2 69.80 Yannick Gingras Hugh Beatty
4 Pioneer As 4 3/1 4/4H 3°/3 5/7 8/8H 1:53.4 29.3 79.00 Tony Hall Anette Lorentzon
9 Jusmakinyalook 9 9/10 9/12 9°/8Q 9/13 9/13Q 1:54.4 29.3 108.70 Robert Taylor Robert Taylor
Time: 27.1 55.1 (28.0) 1:23.3 (28.2) 1:52.1 (28.3) Race Pool: $80,761.34
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She's a plenty nice mare. Not a Jiggy Jog, but who is, really? ;D
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Skinner's meal ticket is with Ake now.
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I highly doubt that one horse is/was his meal ticket!
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Jason Skinner has a 12-horse stable that run mainly on the Dover/Harrington circuit. He co-owns some of them but is lucky to break even on them with expenses, so losing the horse was a big deal.
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Jiggy Jog S will definitely run in the Breeders Crown Open Trot because the purse is much higher than the Mares Open, so off of last night's effort, Call Me Goo will most likely be the favorite in the Mares Open Trot.
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She's so versatile, handy, etc. As soon as her cover cleared, she just switched gears and went on. So smooth, fluid, etc. I really enjoy watching her. And as soon as she cleared, slow it down and do as little as possible to win. Won it easy, under wraps, in hand. Last half in 57 and last quarter in 27 and 3 is a paid training mile for her, LOL. Ake is an excellent horseman, and an excellent manager. She is being handled, pointed, babied as much as she can, and prepped for the BC. As easy as she can win, that's how easy she is going to win to get her peak, primed and ready to go for the BC. I am looking forward to seeing her in the BC. I'd love to see her race for a few more years.
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It helps when Ake drives for 2nd
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Ake knew he couldn't win, so why not go for as much money as you can.
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It would not have made a difference. Ake couldn't win. If he tried all out he would run a good risk of not getting second. In this case, go for as much as you can, second place payday when you are second best....and the gravy.....you have an easy race, more in the tank....and you help manage your stablemate for her ultimate goal.
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Jason Skinner has a 12-horse stable that run mainly on the Dover/Harrington circuit. He co-owns some of them but is lucky to break even on them with expenses, so losing the horse was a big deal.
So, how would you know how he does on his expenses? Are you, his accountant?
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I'm not his accountant but follow the Delaware circuit on a regular basis and know how much his horses earnings are. With normal expenses for training, most of them break even or lose money. In horse racing way more owners lose money than make money, you don't have to be an accountant to figure that out.
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Jiggy Jog S will definitely run in the Breeders Crown Open Trot because the purse is much higher than the Mares Open, so off of last night's effort, Call Me Goo will most likely be the favorite in the Mares Open Trot.
I hope she trots in the Breeders Crown instead of run.
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Ake knew he couldn't win, so why not go for as much money as you can.
This is why uncoupled entries are terrible. Imagine betting on goo not being aware that the drivers best interest is not trying to win
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It would not have made a difference. Ake couldn't win. If he tried all out he would run a good risk of not getting second. In this case, go for as much as you can, second place payday when you are second best....and the gravy.....you have an easy race, more in the tank....and you help manage your stablemate for her ultimate goal.
Maybe. Maybe not. That is your subjective opinion. In a gambling game with public money on the line, it's not a fair shake. This game should be about gambling first then ake's best interests 30th.
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I'm not his accountant but follow the Delaware circuit on a regular basis and know how much his horses earnings are. With normal expenses for training, most of them break even or lose money. In horse racing way more owners lose money than make money, you don't have to be an accountant to figure that out.
That's for certain! You know how to make a small fortune in the harness business? Start out with a big fortune! LOL.
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Maybe. Maybe not. That is your subjective opinion. In a gambling game with public money on the line, it's not a fair shake. This game should be about gambling first then ake's best interests 30th.
True, nothing more than my opinion, and I am pretty confident that Ake's horse was not beating JJS under any circumstances. If Ake went all out---to try and win, not on a suicide mission just to get JJS beat---there's just no way she's beating JJS. Two different classes of horses right now. As far as the gambling aspect, while you are right, it's just not going to be absolute in situations like this. No matter what you do.
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I highly doubt that one horse is/was his meal ticket!
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Boy you dont look at numbers ngc3 I believe it was SKINNER WHO MADE HER THE MONEY ON HER CARD RESPECTABLE WELL OVER 500.000, AS I Have SAID BEFORE Not Bad for a Small Stable trainer , Shes picked up 2 checks 1 of which AKE GOT 1/2 OF THE PURSE PLUS DRIVER /TRAINER % NOT BAD BUSINESS ON HIS PART AND Shes racing for much bigger purses then with Skinner, I also said this was a SALE IN THE MAKING and I was right THE
GOOGOO GAAGAAS ARE WANTED OVER THERE ...As it should be SHES A NICE MARE NO JIGGY BY NO MEANS AND AKE WOULD HAVE PICKED UP MORE MONEY FOR HIMSELF HAD SHE BEAT JIGGY , Sorry but ya gotta give credit where Credit is due . Skinner has a Knack for Babies like it or not . Im sure his Training Bills are a hell of lot cheaper then AKE'S ..So as far as a meal ticket I DONT SEE HOW HIS 5% WAS HIS MEAL TICKET GOING FOR THE MONEY HE WAS RACING FOR The Owners behind SKINNERS BACK were in the makings of moving her to AKE for 3 weeks prior to her leaving FACTS WHEN IN THE DECENT WORLD OF HARNESS RACING THEY SHOULD OF LET THE KID CONTINUE TO RACE HER SERIES OUT LET ALONE LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEIR PLANS WERE ..HE DESERVED THAT MUCH BUT BUSINESS IS BUSINESS AND THIS BUSINESS IS A CUT THROAT BACK STABBING ONE AND A SALE IS A SALE IM UPSET I DIDNT GET A SHIRT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Actually, according to the program, the ownership didn't change or at least hasn't been updated.
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OWNERSHIP DEFINATLY Changed AKE is an Owner Now along with Graham Grace and Roberts GONNA BE ANOTHER BROODMARE HEADING OVER SEAS EVENTUALLY !
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Just went back and checked the program, you are correct. Not sure why Ake needs another trotter he'll only run 8 times a year unless it's for future breeding purposes.
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Maybe. Maybe not. That is your subjective opinion. In a gambling game with public money on the line, it's not a fair shake. This game should be about gambling first then ake's best interests 30th.
I understand the sentiment, but part of gambling is understanding a good driver/horseman isn't going to absolutely gut and/or injure his horse trying to defeat a horse they can. not. beat. If Jiggy Jog had shown any weakness at all I am sure Ake would have capitalized on it.
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I understand the sentiment, but part of gambling is understanding a good driver/horseman isn't going to absolutely gut and/or injure his horse trying to defeat a horse they can. not. beat. If Jiggy Jog had shown any weakness at all I am sure Ake would have capitalized on it.
Very true. While the oblivious general public won't and can't know (without the education), the informed general public knows this. Ake can own a piece of one and not the other, and that's why he'll drive that one, but for the most part, neither driver on stablemates are going to do anything foolish to the detriment of each other. I always wanted to see two horses, same ownership, same barn/trainer, in a real battle down the stretch. Then show me the same thing with different ownership. All things considered.
Like I said, I really enjoy watching JJS race, and if everyone is racing for second, so be it. At least up until the BC, LOL.
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RACE 1 - The Red Mile - KY - October 6, 2024
Conditions: THE ALLERAGE FARMS - Fillies and Mares Open ENTRY FEE - $1500
Gait: Trot Purse: 69,500 Class: Allerage FM Distance: 1 Mile Post Time: 1:00 PM
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PP Horse Med 2024 North America YTD Driver Trainer ML Claim
Equip Sts W P S Time Earnings Stable Odds Price
1 Baroness Hill † 12 7 2 0 1:52.1M $53923 Todd McCarthy Virgil Morgan Jr 7-2
2 Call Me Goo 11 5 3 0 1:51.2S $238079 Ake Svanstedt Ake Svanstedt 9-5
3 Pioneer As 13 4 4 2 1:52.1F $138952 Tony Hall Anette Lorentzon 9-2
4 Bravo Angel S 10 1 3 1 1:55.0F $17475 Matt Krueger Jonas Czernyson 20-1
5 Nelsonbriteagle No 6 2 1 3 1:51.1M $81580 Dexter Dunn Ake Svanstedt 3-2 AKE is back on Call Me goo in a short field. He wants that winner's circle picture.
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RACE 1 - The Red Mile - KY - October 6, 2024
Conditions: THE ALLERAGE FARMS - Fillies and Mares Open ENTRY FEE - $1500
Gait: Trot Purse: 69,500 Class: Allerage FM Distance: 1 mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 83-0O
HN Horse PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Finish Actual LQ Odds Driver Trainer
2 Call Me Goo 2 3/3 3/3 3°/2 1/Q 1/NK 1:51.4 26.4 1.17 Ake Svanstedt Ake Svanstedt
5 Nelsonbriteagle No 5X 5/17H 5/6H 4/4 4/2Q 2/NK 1:51.4 26.2 *0.53 Dexter Dunn Ake Svanstedt
1 Baroness Hill 1 2/1H 1°/1H 1/1H 2/Q 3/T 1:52.0 27.2 13.98 Todd McCarthy Virgil Morgan Jr
3 Pioneer As 3 1/1H 2/1H 2/1H 3/1T 4/1T 1:52.1 27.2 36.97 Tony Hall Anette Lorentzon
4 Bravo Angel S 4 4/4H 4/4H 5°/5 5/7Q 5/12H 1:54.1 28.3 71.63 Matt Krueger Jonas Czernyson
Time: 27.2 56.0 (28.3) 1:24.3 (28.3) 1:51.4 (27.1) Race Pool: $31,842.78 ------with the favorite breaking AKE did get his first win photo with GOO.
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RACE 4 - Meadowlands - NJ - October 26, 2024*** UNOFFICIAL RESULTS ***
Conditions: BREEDERS CROWN - FINAL Open Mares (Declaration Fee $5,000 payable to Meadowlands Racetrack)
Gait: Trot Purse: 496,000 Class: Br Crown F Distance: 1 MileT rack Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 54-0
HN Horse PP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Finish Actual LQ Odds Driver Trainer
3 Call Me Goo 3 2°/NS 1/1 1/2 1/2T 1/3Q 1:50.4 28.1 5.00 Ake Svanstedt Ake Svanstedt
8 Nelsonbriteagle No 8 5°/2 4°/2Q 4°°/2T 2/2T 2/3Q 1:51.2 28.1 *1.00 Dexter Dunn Ake Svanstedt
5 M-m`s Dream 5 3°°/T 2°/1 3°/2T 3/5 3/6 1:52.0 28.4 1.50 David Miller Ron Burke
2 Warrawee Xenia 2 7/5 7°/3T 6°/4Q 4/6 4/6H 1:52.0 28.3 93.20 Jason Bartlett Mark Steacy
7 Tactical Mounds 7 9/7T 9/6Q 9°/7 8/8Q 5/9Q 1:52.3 28.3 24.30 Scott Zeron Megan Scran
4 Refined 4 4/1Q 5/2Q 5/3T 6/6H 6/10Q 1:52.4 29.2 19.80 Douglas Mcnair Virgil Morgan Jr
6 Baroness Hill 6 8/6H 8°/5 7°/5H 7/8 7/11T 1:53.1 29.3 26.30 Todd McCarthy Virgil Morgan Jr
1 Swans Eye 1 6/3H 6/3H 8/5T 9/9Q 8/16Q 1:54.0 30.1 136.40 Braxten Boyd Vincent Campolong
9 Pioneer As 9 1/NS 3/1 2/2 5/6H 9/19H 1:54.3 31.3 71.90 Tim Tetrick Anette Lorentzon
Time: 27.4 55.0 (27.1) 1:22.3 (27.3) 1:50.4 (28.1) Race Pool: $218,312.00 --------AKE has turned Skinner's trotter into a beast!