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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: The Answer on October 17, 2024, 05:06:13 PM
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Casie won’t be training horses in FL anymore. Gotta a new gig. Picking out horses 5% of original purchase price, 5% of earnings and 5% of the stallion if syndicated. Harris is her first and only client at this point.
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they is got themselves a PIGEON
THEY AINT LETTING THIS PIGEON OUT OF HIS CAGE
FACT LEGIT
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She needs to worry about getting that receding hairline fixed.
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they is got themselves a PIGEON
THEY AINT LETTING THIS PIGEON OUT OF HIS CAGE
FACT LEGIT
They found the golden pigeon! tmbz1
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Anyone ever seen her toenails?
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Anyone ever seen her toenails?
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i can with 100% certainty answer with an emphatic no!!!
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Casie won’t be training horses in FL anymore. Gotta a new gig. Picking out horses 5% of original purchase price, 5% of earnings and 5% of the stallion if syndicated. Harris is her first and only client at this point.
If this is the truth she already made about $200k just at Lexington sale
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She needs to worry about getting that receding hairline fixed.
Money should be able to accomplish this!
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Cassie went on a forced retirement! Clue in people - She had horses with Surick, Oaks, & Navarro and she didn't even get questioned? GTF ought a here. She's a rat who bought her way out. Everyone knows she's a control freak and has to know everything. You mean to tell me she didn't know anything about the horses Surick, Navarro & Oaks were loading up at Gulfstream? BULLSHIT
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Cassie went on a forced retirement! Clue in people - She had horses with Surick, Oaks, & Navarro and she didn't even get questioned? GTF ought a here. She's a rat who bought her way out. Everyone knows she's a control freak and has to know everything. You mean to tell me she didn't know anything about the horses Surick, Navarro & Oaks were loading up at Gulfstream? BULLSHIT
ngc3
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Cassie went on a forced retirement! Clue in people - She had horses with Surick, Oaks, & Navarro and she didn't even get questioned? GTF ought a here. She's a rat who bought her way out. Everyone knows she's a control freak and has to know everything. You mean to tell me she didn't know anything about the horses Surick, Navarro & Oaks were loading up at Gulfstream? BULLSHIT
seems very logical
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Cassie went on a forced retirement! Clue in people - She had horses with Surick, Oaks, & Navarro and she didn't even get questioned? GTF ought a here. She's a rat who bought her way out. Everyone knows she's a control freak and has to know everything. You mean to tell me she didn't know anything about the horses Surick, Navarro & Oaks were loading up at Gulfstream? BULLSHIT
No doubt. It all changed after a couple of sessions with the Ontario officials. The one who escaped with all her wrinkly epidermis, is Michele, I married a Crawford, Crawford .
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No doubt. It all changed after a couple of sessions with the Ontario officials. The one who escaped with all her wrinkly epidermis, is Michele, I married a Crawford, Crawford .
Absolutely - Crawford had horses with all four of them and damn sure knew what was going on. The question is why is Cassie so special that she gets a pass by?
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I don't know. Ontario has a history of keeping their dirty laundry in house. In my experience, if the FBI has you and you don't give them something better for them, you will be tried and convicted of conspiracy. It is the tool they use most. It is worth 5 years. But, give it to them and you can skate conviction and time. The divesting herself of race horses in the USA and turning the racing duties over to Beaton or whoever, sounds more like the racing officials.
But, who knows, Casies' choice to get away from overnight races does limit her exposure and may have been her own.
And I agree, how does Crawford skate? Her split with Albert is timely.
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She is the magic word.
US FBI investigation/charges all stopped when they got to the owners.
Commissions went nowhere with the info nor did Canadah..
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criminals - they all knew and they were they ones who paid for it!
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I agree something smells fishy smells more like a rat to me but we may never know
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Her & Snyder got their plugs done @ the same locale
Harris is getting tucked up next
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ngc3
FACTS
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If someone wants to tell me that a powerful individual, an owner, was able to maneuver and get themselves out of trouble, I can certainly say that's possible, even feasible. I don't take it as fact without proof, but I couldn't care less. Jason Servis and Jorge Navarro were two of the biggest names at the time in the t-bred industry. They won the biggest races in the sport, in the world! At the end of the day, they both went to jail.
Now, Casie, who is Canadian, either as an owner or as a trainer, is guilty-----just like Servis and Navarro----and she got off? With a warning, a strongly-suggested or forced step-back or retirement? She went from training racehorses to training babies. Went from training babies to breaking them (and let's not forget owning them) and sending them to other trainers. And that's how she got off? That's the theory-----sorry, I mean "fact"-----that people are putting forth has facts?
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For someone that didn't know that she was drinking her calories, it sure is odd listening to her opine on horse nutrition.
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If someone wants to tell me that a powerful individual, an owner, was able to maneuver and get themselves out of trouble, I can certainly say that's possible, even feasible. I don't take it as fact without proof, but I couldn't care less. Jason Servis and Jorge Navarro were two of the biggest names at the time in the t-bred industry. They won the biggest races in the sport, in the world! At the end of the day, they both went to jail.
Now, Casie, who is Canadian, either as an owner or as a trainer, is guilty-----just like Servis and Navarro----and she got off? With a warning, a strongly-suggested or forced step-back or retirement? She went from training racehorses to training babies. Went from training babies to breaking them (and let's not forget owning them) and sending them to other trainers. And that's how she got off? That's the theory-----sorry, I mean "fact"-----that people are putting forth has facts?
That being said what is your opinion on how she was with Surick, Oaks, and Navarro and didn't get questioned?
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If someone wants to tell me that a powerful individual, an owner, was able to maneuver and get themselves out of trouble, I can certainly say that's possible, even feasible. I don't take it as fact without proof, but I couldn't care less. Jason Servis and Jorge Navarro were two of the biggest names at the time in the t-bred industry. They won the biggest races in the sport, in the world! At the end of the day, they both went to jail.
Now, Casie, who is Canadian, either as an owner or as a trainer, is guilty-----just like Servis and Navarro----and she got off? With a warning, a strongly-suggested or forced step-back or retirement? She went from training racehorses to training babies. Went from training babies to breaking them (and let's not forget owning them) and sending them to other trainers. And that's how she got off? That's the theory-----sorry, I mean "fact"-----that people are putting forth has facts?
Sorry Grandstand but you are making to much sense in this thread. Please don't ruin a good fictional story. Thanks
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That being said what is your opinion on how she was with Surick, Oaks, and Navarro and didn't get questioned?
Opinion? I don't have one. I am looking for facts. There were trials. Between Servis, Navarro, and Surick, specifically with all the telephone conversations/recordings that were submitted as evidence, is it YOUR OPINION, that:
1) Casie had conversations with one or all of them;
2) discussed details and specifics (like Servis, Navarro, and Surick did with each other as to their actions/activities);
3) and had knowledge and was involved, either as a direct participant or indirectly as an owner;
AND all of the above was either swept under the rug, strategically disappeared, and she was offered a deal to step back and/or retire? Is that your opinion? I will say it certainly isn't mine.
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Sorry Grandstand but you are making to much sense in this thread. Please don't ruin a good fictional story. Thanks
I sincerely apologize. I can't stand when people deflect from rumors, innuendos, and conspiracy theories, by looking for facts. ;)
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It is a FACT that the FBI will make "deals" if you provide them with information leading to the indictment of individuals, they are most concerned with, or those under observation who require more evidence for conviction. Given Casie's close association with Navarro, Surick, and Co., it may have been her decision to become an informant, this could explain why she was not charged.
My question which no one has asked--is how did Suricks right hand man, best friend-Joe Bongiorno--get a walk?
Does it sound feasible that he knew 0 about all of Suricks activities??
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It is a FACT that the FBI will make "deals" if you provide them with information leading to the indictment of individuals, they are most concerned with, or those under observation who require more evidence for conviction. Given Casie's close association with Navarro, Surick, and Co., it may have been her decision to become an informant, this could explain why she was not charged.
My question which no one has asked--is how did Suricks right hand man, best friend-Joe Bongiorno--get a walk?
Does it sound feasible that he knew 0 about all of Suricks activities??
Absolutely but when it comes to the BON BON family they get to walk from everything. Bobby steals millions, Jen has positives and is on the Fishman list, Joey is blowing more coke than Pablo Escobar and it's all good.
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That being said what is your opinion on how she was with Surick, Oaks, and Navarro and didn't get questioned?
the light git real hot while she sat under it and sang like a canary. she took them all down to save herself.
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triple scam