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Title: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: samstar on October 25, 2024, 09:15:31 PM
Erv Miller has two on On Gait.  I want to recommend extreme caution when dealing with Erv.  He posted year old pictures on a horse I purchased. If he had posted current pictures the horse wouldn't have received a bid....Very hard for an honest person to come out on top when dealing with a dishonest man!
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: Berwyn on October 25, 2024, 11:47:12 PM
Let me guess, he’s selling them on ongait? And the ongait pos owners will say buyer beware.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: Arrive7100 on October 26, 2024, 06:20:37 AM
I know people on here love to bash Erv Miller but isn't it the buyer's responsibility to do his due diligence and have the horse checked out before bidding on it?
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: Harness racer on October 26, 2024, 07:23:05 AM
Agree, but intentionally posting old pictures should be illegal.  It’s the equivalent of Luc were to roll back the odometers!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: Deadbeat on October 26, 2024, 08:11:29 AM
Agree, but intentionally posting old pictures should be illegal.  It’s the equivalent of Luc were to roll back the odometers!   tmbz1

I think that’s what the OP is trying to say. Make sure you do your due diligence when purchasing from Mr Miller, since he seemingly had a bad experience.
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: jupiter on October 26, 2024, 11:47:22 AM
Pure fraud
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: LUCPARK on October 26, 2024, 12:09:21 PM
Erv Miller has two on On Gait.  I want to recommend extreme caution when dealing with Erv.  He posted year old pictures on a horse I purchased. If he had posted current pictures the horse wouldn't have received a bid....Very hard for an honest person to come out on top when dealing with a dishonest man!

let get the story corrct..SINCE I GOT THE REAL STORY FROM HIM

you called erv ..he told you dont change his shoes or his riggin   

u thought u were a better trainer and u fcked up the horse. and fcked up his  feet

ponda advnture is the name of the horse

yOU cked up the horse nobody cheated you

your a FUCKIN IDIOT ..AND NOW YOUR CRYIN LIKE A LITTLE FCKIN CUNT

THOSE ARE FACTS
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: samstar on October 26, 2024, 12:41:00 PM
Tell me about the year old pictures!
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: Harness racer on October 26, 2024, 04:12:59 PM
Tell me about the year old pictures!

Pictures aside, is what luc is saying true?  You will lose credibility if so.
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: samstar on October 26, 2024, 04:21:37 PM
Did not change shoes or rigging.  Fact of the matter is that the horse was sold with year old pictures.  If he had taken recent pictures of his right knee the horse would have gone for meat price.  When I  called after receiving the horse he didn't answer the calls.  Blamed the massive injury on a bad tape job by a groom.  Everyone who knows me knows I tell it like it is.  This horse has been off since the first of February and won't see the track again before the new year.
i buy a lot of horses and know enough to ask the questions.  Erv made up the answers.
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: LUCPARK on October 26, 2024, 04:35:00 PM
Did not change shoes or rigging.  Fact of the matter is that the horse was sold with year old pictures.  If he had taken recent pictures of his right knee the horse would have gone for meat price.  When I  called after receiving the horse he didn't answer the calls.  Blamed the massive injury on a bad tape job by a groom.  Everyone who knows me knows I tell it like it is.  This horse has been off since the first of February and won't see the track again before the new year.
i buy a lot of horses and know enough to ask the questions.  Erv made up the answers.
 
LIAR

YOU CALLD FOUR PEOPLE ABOUT THE SHOEING

NEW PIC OLD PICS MEAN SHIT EVERYONE AT HOOSIER KNEW THE ISSUES WITH PONDA  EXCEPT U ..
 U FCKED UP U DIODNT LISTEN TO INSTRUCTIONS  YOU DDINT LISTEN TO FACTS TOLD TO YOU

U  WERE BRAGGING TO 3  THREE PEOPLE WHO THEN  CALLED HIM AND TOLD HIM

YOUR ZACTA WORDS WERE ,,FCK ERV  IM BETTER THAN HIM I GET THIS HORSE BETTER THAN ERV HAD HIM  ..

AGAIN HE TOLD U DONT CHANGE HIS SHOES AND RIGGIN

YOU OUTSMARTED YOURSELF ..AND

BINGO

YOU IS STUCK NOW  ..

GOOD LUCK PLS STOP CRYIN   IT EMBARRISSING

  THK YOU PLOP MANAGEMENT  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: LUCPARK on October 26, 2024, 04:37:11 PM
Pictures aside, is what luc is saying true?  You will lose credibility if so.

1000 PERCENT TRUE ...   .

HE TRIED TO OUTSMART A HALL OF FAMER AND PROFESSIONAL HORSEMAN   

AND LOST  THOSE ARE FACTS 
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: samstar on October 26, 2024, 08:53:18 PM
 i have purchased several pretty good horses from this site and a few not so good horses.  Erv is the only seller that committed fraud.  he posted pictures that he had used in a sale 11 months earlier showing a clean right knee. This was pure fraud. I am not crying.   i am educating potential buyers that they should avoid accepting Ervs word.  I suggest that if you are going to buy off Erv, sit behind the horse, Have him vetted and insure that the pictures are current and the correct horse  A public service announcement.  You can defend him if you want. Candidly, your defense makes me question your character as well.
Title: Re: Two from Erv Miller for sale Saturday
Post by: LUCPARK on October 26, 2024, 11:31:08 PM
i have purchased several pretty good horses from this site and a few not so good horses.  Erv is the only seller that committed fraud.  he posted pictures that he had used in a sale 11 months earlier showing a clean right knee. This was pure fraud. I am not crying.   i am educating potential buyers that they should avoid accepting Ervs word.  I suggest that if you are going to buy off Erv, sit behind the horse, Have him vetted and insure that the pictures are current and the correct horse  A public service announcement.  You can defend him if you want. Candidly, your defense makes me question your character as well.
   

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