HORSEPLOP.COM
General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Dingus on November 27, 2024, 12:32:04 AM
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Another ongait type horse auction site, but with no info as to who owns/runs it:
www.harnessgait.com (http://www.harnessgait.com)
harnessgait.com
Updated 4 days ago
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hey dingus why dont u tell us who u r ur so worried about everyone else
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hey dingus why dont u tell us who u r ur so worried about everyone else
You first
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at the end of the day does it natter who owns the site as long as ur horse sells and u get paid
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at the end of the day does it natter who owns the site as long as ur horse sells and u get paid
It’s transparency, most people want to do business with people they know and trust. Lack of transparency is troubling
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At the end of the day, so long as everyone gets what they are owed, does it matter. Maybe people just dont their info out there.
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Why would they redact the info and who redacted it? Makes it seem like a 3 letter agency classified document. Are they afraid it would set off shock waves and the public can't handle it ngc3 ngc3
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okay, who is going first
someone put a horse up for sale and make sure all goes well
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Send Erv Miller the link he'll throw one in there with year old pictures!
73cv.2
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agree sit back and see how it goes
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WHERES SAMSTAR HES THE VILLAGE PIGEON ngc3 ngc3
START BIDDING SAM
I'LL TELL ERV YOUR LOOKING FOR A TROTTER TO IMPROVE OFF HIM ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I just got email from them so How in the hell they getting everyone name and email?
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hey dingus why dont u tell us who u r ur so worried about everyone else
I’m posting information, not giving an opinion.
Don’t you want to know who you are giving your credit card info to?
And, how did they get our emails?
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Ok Fellas heres the deal. It’s a site owned by HORSEMEN for the HARD WORKING HORSEMEN. There will be a Customer service number available soon. The ELITE in the sport own run the other site. HARNESS GAIT Has the highest available security and is 100% secure. HARNESS GAIT is charging ZERO $$ to list your horse. Then Only 2% of the sale price. With a minimum charge of 100$. We cannot get this started without you. CHECK IT OUT . Feel free to send emails to the site if you have any concerns.
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Then why go out of your way to hide ownership?
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Ok Fellas heres the deal. It’s a site owned by HORSEMEN for the HARD WORKING HORSEMEN. There will be a Customer service number available soon. The ELITE in the sport own run the other site. HARNESS GAIT Has the highest available security and is 100% secure. HARNESS GAIT is charging ZERO $$ to list your horse. Then Only 2% of the sale price. With a minimum charge of 100$. We cannot get this started without you. CHECK IT OUT . Feel free to send emails to the site if you have any concerns.
Who are the ELITE?
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The site is up and running have a couple of listings. With much more to come. CHECK IT OUT. Quit giving money away for no reason. List and SAVE.
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It looks like the first few auctions were buy backs so not a good start . New sites should have a reduced fees for buy backs or no sales to motivate more listings. Any update on the owners? That should be front and center .
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The site is up and running have a couple of listings. With much more to come. CHECK IT OUT. Quit giving money away for no reason. List and SAVE.
More important than the commission are the views and the bids generated.
Who wants to pay a 2% commission of $5000 on your site when ongait gets 4% of $10,000 because there are a lot more bidders? Still waiting to know who the principals are.
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Also waiting for the inevitable trademark infringement lawsuit.
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NEW YEARS SALE ‘. List your horse for ZERO FEE and NO CHARGE if it no sales! ‘. Hurry all auctions must end by Feb28 th to Qualify . ‘. Stop giving your hard earned money away.
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NEW YEARS SALE ‘. List your horse for ZERO FEE and NO CHARGE if it no sales! ‘. Hurry all auctions must end by Feb28 th to Qualify . ‘. Stop giving your hard earned money away.
List the principals of the site. Someone in Delaware?
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Turbo Hill comments say "to inconsistent" for him. Can you say done? Gone from 55k claimer to 6k.,
Not to mentioned claimed out of the Virgil Morgan stable! Old age and too many hot suppers have cooked this poor guy!
The Maria Reid chick is the only other cosigner and must be the one behind the site. Listed two before who never sold, I Believe.
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Great idea but this site looks phony like ongait, lot of buying back of horses that were probably never available
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Avoid Taxes.
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Everything is for sale some have reserve's. Its 10000% legit . . This has been in the works for quite a while. I purchased a horse on OG . The bottom line was the horse was sold fraud gently. My opinion. I was told either take the horse or be barred. Here we are…... Offering you a massive customer base . Just list and save. Happy new year !!!!
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theres no traffic on the site no possible way to make more money then ongait theres no one to bid should be doing it for free until theres a strong customer base
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Site could use some improvements. Why can't anyone make it correct?
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Not trying to make more money than anyone. Just trying to make a site thats not as expensive. And we have plenty of traffic just need listings. If your having problems there is a place on the site to comment. Were here to help . Did you get a email ??
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Not trying to make more money than anyone. Just trying to make a site thats not as expensive. And we have plenty of traffic just need listings. If your having problems there is a place on the site to comment. Were here to help . Did you get a email ??
Until you list who the principals are, you won’t get my interest.
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Looks like the Fusco girl runs it
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Ok fellas I really dnt know why you’re so concerned about ownership of the site. But Joesph Fusco of JMFRacing LLC . Hopefully that will help all concerns. List away !!! Still only Charging 2% with ZERO Listing fee till the end of February.
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Is this part of the Fusco crime family ?
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Ok fellas I really dnt know why you’re so concerned about ownership of the site. But Joesph Fusco of JMFRacing LLC . Hopefully that will help all concerns. List away !!! Still only Charging 2% with ZERO Listing fee till the end of February.
At least they are not hiding who is behind it like Ongait. You have Eric Cherry and 20 other "silent" owners.
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At least they are not hiding who is behind it like Ongait. You have Eric Cherry and 20 other "silent" owners.
Only took her 2 months to tell us though.
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Buddy of mine won a bid for 1200$ paid for it and now owners don’t want to sell him the horse said they want more money
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I train at the same place that the horse is located and more money is not even close to the truth. They just wanted to be paid the $1200 in a timely basis but they kept getting the runaround. I think you need some new friends
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Buddy of mine won a bid for 1200$ paid for it and now owners don’t want to sell him the horse said they want more money
They didn’t want to be associated with selling a Lather up for $1200
😂😂😂😂😂
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Only took her 2 months to tell us though.
I thought that was odd also. Like they were hiding something.
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I just got email from them so How in the hell they getting everyone name and email?
Data mining. This marketing ploy is used by every industry.
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Sorry no conspiracy . The seller for some reason refused to sell the horse to the winning bidder and has been barred. Only recourse the site has. The buyer can take it farther if he wishes.
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Could they be turned into their local racing commission or the USTA for failure to honor a declaration? And be suspended until it’s honored? I would try to go that route if I were the buyer. It’s free to give it a try.
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not barred, neither of us. After the info/texts were sent you may be talking about the buyer. I would welcome either the USTA or Ohio Racing Commission contacting me
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not barred, neither of us. After the info/texts were sent you may be talking about the buyer. I would welcome either the USTA or Ohio Racing Commission contacting me
I thought you said you train at the place, now you are claiming you are the seller? They say you are banned, you say you’re not . Seller blames you, you blame the seller. I’d love to know the actual story. And you wonder why no one wants to try this new site. 😂😂😂
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I am the seller 1/2 and we do train at the fairgrounds. We got a message from Harnessgait today saying and I quote...Thank you for taking the high ground" All I ever said was that the buyer never paid...1/2 yes but the other half was on hold...for how long we did not know but he wanted to pick up the horse today and we did not have the full amount. If you want to buy a horse I thought you actually had to have the money. I know he claims the money was going to be released but I much prefer we had full payment, not a promise. Not much else to the story...no ticket, no washer!!
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I am the seller 1/2 and we do train at the fairgrounds. We got a message from Harnessgait today saying and I quote...Thank you for taking the high ground" All I ever said was that the buyer never paid...1/2 yes but the other half was on hold...for how long we did not know but he wanted to pick up the horse today and we did not have the full amount. If you want to buy a horse I thought you actually had to have the money. I know he claims the money was going to be released but I much prefer we had full payment, not a promise. Not much else to the story...no ticket, no washer!!
Is it true that you wouldn't give the buyer extra days for the remainder of the $1200 he sent to clear but you were willing to wait those extra days if he would give you $5000 instead of the $1200?
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Who buys a horse and doesn’t have $1200? ngc3
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the $5000 number was a joke since I was pissed the way he handled the purchase. Why would I think he could pay $5000 when he could not even pay $1200. Why would anyone give someone a horse and then wait for the remaining money. Doesn't it ring a bell that someone who wants to buy a horse for a sum of $1200 and only can pay half until whenever sound like a deadbeat. I was concerned that she would even get fed. Anyone who looks at the original sale post will see that we stated we were more interested in finding her a good home. For whatever reason it took him 4 days to pay the first $600 and that was only after he asked for another 4 days and then I had enough and at about 2PM I gave him a deadline of midnight to pay or the sale was off. I had enough promises and delays. After he sent the $600 the fun began and yes he can show you the other $600 but what he fails to mention it was on hold for anywhere from 24 hours to 21 days and we had no control over the balance. He was refunded his money and we have all the screenshots to prove what I am saying. So that is it in a nutshell. Those that want to believe his fairy tale so be it. My trainer and her family have been in the business for over 100 years, yes you read right, 100 years and in that time they have been fined once for being late to the paddock.
I forgot to mention he came to the barn on Saturday, looked at the horse but brought no money with the promise to pay and pickup either Monday or Tuesday, first of his stall tactics
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Who buys a horse and doesn’t have $1200? ngc3
I can name one!!!
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I can name one!!!
Name please
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Who buys a horse and doesn’t have $1200? ngc3
That’s not what happened, PayPal holds money if it’s a double payout, seller doesn’t understand the internet 🤪
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Who doesn’t pay $1200 all at once or takes that long to pay? Sounds like they need to go get a job at chick-fil-a to earn a little cash. You buy something, you pay for it! I don’t even think Walmart offers layaway, let alone make installments on a $1200 horse. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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That’s not what happened, PayPal holds money if it’s a double payout, seller doesn’t understand the internet 🤪
Tell me how you know what happened. I personally spoke with Paypal twice and both times they told me the balance was on hold and would be on hold from 24 hours to 21 days. So you think we should have given him the horse and hope we get the balance. What has amazes me thru this ordeal is how many people have chimed in and they have no idea what happened as there were only 4 of us involved...myself, my partner, our trainer and the buyer...no one else.Regardless of who and how many disagree there was NO way we were going to release the horse without payment. Some idiot lady said rather than try to make 2 $600 payments he should have made 1 for $650...waited and then made the other for $550. I replied.."How about a novel idea...send $1200 at one time!!" She never answered. You have to be a total DEADBEAT to try and buy a horse for any amount and not have the money. I questioned if he had enough money feed her. And for those that can read, in our thread we stated that finding her a good home was the most important aspect. In closing one of the deadbeats excuses why he had to delay picking her up was that his truck did not run and had no heat and you think we should have trusted him....Not me, not now, not ever!!!!
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Tell me how you know what happened. I personally spoke with Paypal twice and both times they told me the balance was on hold and would be on hold from 24 hours to 21 days. So you think we should have given him the horse and hope we get the balance. What has amazes me thru this ordeal is how many people have chimed in and they have no idea what happened as there were only 4 of us involved...myself, my partner, our trainer and the buyer...no one else.Regardless of who and how many disagree there was NO way we were going to release the horse without payment. Some idiot lady said rather than try to make 2 $600 payments he should have made 1 for $650...waited and then made the other for $550. I replied.."How about a novel idea...send $1200 at one time!!" She never answered. You have to be a total DEADBEAT to try and buy a horse for any amount and not have the money. I questioned if he had enough money feed her. And for those that can read, in our thread we stated that finding her a good home was the most important aspect. In closing one of the deadbeats excuses why he had to delay picking her up was that his truck did not run and had no heat and you think we should have trusted him....Not me, not now, not ever!!!!
100% agree, who is this dead beat?
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Tell me how you know what happened. I personally spoke with Paypal twice and both times they told me the balance was on hold and would be on hold from 24 hours to 21 days. So you think we should have given him the horse and hope we get the balance. What has amazes me thru this ordeal is how many people have chimed in and they have no idea what happened as there were only 4 of us involved...myself, my partner, our trainer and the buyer...no one else.Regardless of who and how many disagree there was NO way we were going to release the horse without payment. Some idiot lady said rather than try to make 2 $600 payments he should have made 1 for $650...waited and then made the other for $550. I replied.."How about a novel idea...send $1200 at one time!!" She never answered. You have to be a total DEADBEAT to try and buy a horse for any amount and not have the money. I questioned if he had enough money feed her. And for those that can read, in our thread we stated that finding her a good home was the most important aspect. In closing one of the deadbeats excuses why he had to delay picking her up was that his truck did not run and had no heat and you think we should have trusted him....Not me, not now, not ever!!!!
PayPal told you themselfs that’s how payPal works 🤦🏼♀️
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try reading my first sentence which starts with I personally and then tell me what you do not understand
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I have told/asked nicely by 2 websites to not mention his name since his rant had to be removed from another site and the other has done the same. Maybe thatgirl1778 will tell you since she seems to know everything about this. I sent her a PM yesterday asking who told her we were banned from Harnessgait since it is not true...no reply
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More melodrama and BS. Par for the horseplop course. LOL.
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Greed everywhere
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Not greed to want your money. Give someone your car based on them promising to give you the money later. ngc3