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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: sledge hammer on December 26, 2024, 06:03:05 PM
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Disgusting ... the connections of the horse literally don't give a shit what happens to him. He's better off getting claimed by someone who actually cares so he can have a loving home that he deserves...but the fact that they would get paid to have someone take the horse off their hands is awful....no shame.
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I get your point. They should want to keep and look out for the horse after all he's done.
They are obviously banking that nobody wants a $5k pet with his career a week away from ending.
Might sneak in two more wins to add to the record. I predict there will be no takers.
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I see that the race is on the 30th so no couple wins. ;D I gotta agree the horse deserves better.
Retire him already. Classic example of what gives harness racing a bad name. Rocco should step
up, claim him and give him a lifetime home. tmbz1
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The connections were interviewed in the winner's circle after winning last week (nice win too, not cheap) and they seemed indifferent when asked what happens when he's done racing, almost like they dodged the question. Left a really bad taste in my mouth.
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it would be great if he got claimed and got the retirement he deserves
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Look who the owner is. Has always employed biggest scumbags in the game!
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I’m sure he would like some suggestions:
Ameer E Najor from W Bloomfield, MI
Male, 71. Born April 4, 1953
Address
4731 Arline Dr, W Bloomfield, MI, 48323
Cell phone
(248) 719-1404
Landline
(248) 681-4369
Email
amandanajor@yahoo.com
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I was on here about 6 months ago when there was a page that was started about this horse. I commented then that what a P.O.S asshole this owner is that they keep racing the horse , just retire the poor thing and to give him the rest and retirement he deserves. I had asked how much money do you want to make ? Trying to get every single penny out of him, ridiculous. I know it’s a business but this nice racehorse made this owner lots of money over the years. He’s in for $5000 so it’s obvious this owner could give 2shits less what happens to him, what a fucking scumbag Ameer najor is. I really hope someone does claim him just for a nice pet and gives him the retirement he deserves. I’ve known a lot of dickhead owners but ameer najor you are definitely on the top of the list.
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I was on here about 6 months ago when there was a page that was started about this horse. I commented then that what a P.O.S asshole this owner is that they keep racing the horse , just retire the poor thing and to give him the rest and retirement he deserves. I had asked how much money do you want to make ? Trying to get every single penny out of him, ridiculous. I know it’s a business but this nice racehorse made this owner lots of money over the years. He’s in for $5000 so it’s obvious this owner could give 2shits less what happens to him, what a fucking scumbag Ameer najor is. I really hope someone does claim him just for a nice pet and gives him the retirement he deserves. I’ve known a lot of dickhead owners but ameer najor you are definitely on the top of the list.
Shiaway St Pat won the first Hambletonian raced at the Meadowlands in 1981 with Ray Remmen driving. he was a gelding and raced until he was 14. At that time Hal Belote had him and he was racing in $3000 claimers or less in Delaware.
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At 15 the ole boy can still crush them in the Amateur circuit races.. no doubt Amazon loves to race, so if he's sound n healthy why not add to his impressive win record under "new" management care.. then I'm pretty sure the Kentucky Horse Park would take him on being the winningest standardbred in history.. it can be a well deservered happy ending after all..
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At 15 the ole boy can still crush them in the Amateur circuit races.. no doubt Amazon loves to race, so if he's sound n healthy why not add to his impressive win record under "new" management care.. then I'm pretty sure the Kentucky Horse Park would take him on being the winningest standardbred in history.. it can be a well deservered happy ending after all..
my thoughts exactly. someone will make their money back with him in amatuer races. holzman did an interview on you tube said he had a forrever home for him in michigan at a friends farm. this was a few yrs back.
what a dick move. i hope he gets claimed and races in the amatuer series at the meadowlands!
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maybe a nice horse for yogi sheridan. he may win in 49 at 15 yrs old on a hot summer night. there is a chance someone comes and gets him.
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The least they can do is put the whip away for these final starts. If J Irvine, he does not abuse them with the whip.
Owners are obvious trash!
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maybe a nice horse for yogi sheridan. he may win in 49 at 15 yrs old on a hot summer night. there is a chance someone comes and gets him.
I hope someone with a conscience does exactly that. The sport doesn't need any any more black eyes.
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If fans/bettors expect owners/trainers to manage their horses to the fans/bettors expectations, then the fans/bettors will continuously and consistently be disappointed. In cases where you are talking about older horses, ones that perhaps shouldn't be racing any longer, it is the track's responsibility to eliminate these types of situations, whether the owner does or doesn't. More tracks are starting to this on the t-bred side.
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I'm fine with 14YO horses racing. Standardbreds are more than proven to be durable and I believe when trainers say "they love to race". So I got no problem with Amazon racing up to the last week of the year, but the owner/trainer have to be the dumbest of the dumb to open themselves up to this scrutiny, first with the interview where they basically say they don't give a fuck what happens to the horse and then tarnishing him by putting a cheap tag on his head..
It amazes me how it doesn't even occur to them to say or do the right things even if they don't mean it. They don't deserve this horse.
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Trainer and owner scums. Wouldn’t expect anything less
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I'm fine with 14YO horses racing. Standardbreds are more than proven to be durable and I believe when trainers say "they love to race". So I got no problem with Amazon racing up to the last week of the year, but the owner/trainer have to be the dumbest of the dumb to open themselves up to this scrutiny, first with the interview where they basically say they don't give a fuck what happens to the horse and then tarnishing him by putting a cheap tag on his head..
It amazes me how it doesn't even occur to them to say or do the right things even if they don't mean it. They don't deserve this horse.
I'm with you. Sound enough, enjoys the game still..let them race. But, if the truth is they have no plans for this horse after January 1, that's despicable. A horse like this doesn't deserve pounding the pavement as an Amish car for as long as his legs hold out, and in the absence of anyone stepping up, that seems likely.
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Amazon deserves to be taken care of. The owner is an asshole for not following through with the plans that he made for this horse. Mr Holzman had no say in where this horse ended up in his last race. It is a shame that this jerk of an owner has no respect for the horse that is made him all that money. From what I understand the owner did not want to have to pay to care for him after this year. People like this is what gives this game such a bad rep. I still have my first racehorse and he will live out his life with me. He didn't make a ton of money but he tried every week. I hope someone does right by this horse.
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Amazon deserves to be taken care of. The owner is an asshole for not following through with the plans that he made for this horse. Mr Holzman had no say in where this horse ended up in his last race. It is a shame that this jerk of an owner has no respect for the horse that is made him all that money. From what I understand the owner did not want to have to pay to care for him after this year. People like this is what gives this game such a bad rep. I still have my first racehorse and he will live out his life with me. He didn't make a ton of money but he tried every week. I hope someone does right by this horse.
I'm hearing at least two people are putting in claims. Hope that's true. The fact that the connections will profit $5K sickens me though.
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I was on here about 6 months ago when there was a page that was started about this horse. I commented then that what a P.O.S asshole this owner is that they keep racing the horse , just retire the poor thing and to give him the rest and retirement he deserves. I had asked how much money do you want to make ? Trying to get every single penny out of him, ridiculous. I know it’s a business but this nice racehorse made this owner lots of money over the years. He’s in for $5000 so it’s obvious this owner could give 2shits less what happens to him, what a fucking scumbag Ameer najor is. I really hope someone does claim him just for a nice pet and gives him the retirement he deserves. I’ve known a lot of dickhead owners but ameer najor you are definitely on the top of the list.
That was me that started a page about him, and just my 2 cents.. I think as soon as he broke the record, he should have been retired. When I hear some trainers say "they love to race" I just have to chuckle. How do most..not all, but most trainers know that, did they talk to the horse.. Pure greed by the dipshit connections
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That was me that started a page about him, and just my 2 cents.. I think as soon as he broke the record, he should have been retired. When I hear some trainers say "they love to race" I just have to chuckle. How do most..not all, but most trainers know that, did they talk to the horse.. Pure greed by the dipshit connections
I don't know. It's pretty apparent when a horse enjoys its job, no matter what that job might be. Just like it's apparent when they don't. If he's not unsound and is happy, then what's the harm? It's the lack of regard for what happens to him afterwards that concerns me.
Will be interesting to see where he lands, if the rumor that a couple claims will be entered.
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I don't know. It's pretty apparent when a horse enjoys its job, no matter what that job might be. Just like it's apparent when they don't. If he's not unsound and is happy, then what's the harm? It's the lack of regard for what happens to him afterwards that concerns me.
Will be interesting to see where he lands, if the rumor that a couple claims will be entered.
To me its just a bad look for the sport, not that many people pay attention anymore. That horse has made 1.5 million dollars lifetime and he gets thrown into a 5,000 claimer for his last start. He should have gone out in style after breaking the record and live out his remaining years living the good life. Instead gets put in a cheap race where nobody knows who might claim him.
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To quote my original post, disgusting. I do expect if he's claimed it will be by someone with good intentions. I know the Kentucky Horse park has been alerted to the situation, maybe they take him in with their other champions.
The fact that is actually a "situation" is deplorable.
Supposedly there is supposed to be a shoe-pulling ceremony in the winner's circle after his final race...I seriously hope that's cancelled.
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Shiaway St Pat won the first Hambletonian raced at the Meadowlands in 1981 with Ray Remmen driving. he was a gelding and raced until he was 14. At that time Hal Belote had him and he was racing in $3000 claimers or less in Delaware.
Not quite exactly the way it happened, but it has become a bit of an urban legend over time. Nevertheless, the point is that horses, regardless of their performance, if need be or want, should have the opportunity to retire peacefully and with safety and security.
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Not quite exactly the way it happened, but it has become a bit of an urban legend over time. Nevertheless, the point is that horses, regardless of their performance, if need be or want, should have the opportunity to retire peacefully and with safety and security.
I stand corrected. He was racing in cheaper claimers in Delaware with Hal Belote before someone from The Meadowlands got wind of it and rescued him, then retired him to their Paddock Park. Other than winning the Hambo, Shiaway St Pat didn't do much else in his career. When you're a gelding, if you're sound, the only thing you can do is race unless you want a family pet.
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To quote my original post, disgusting. I do expect if he's claimed it will be by someone with good intentions. I know the Kentucky Horse park has been alerted to the situation, maybe they take him in with their other champions.
The fact that is actually a "situation" is deplorable.
Supposedly there is supposed to be a shoe-pulling ceremony in the winner's circle after his final race...I seriously hope that's cancelled.
Even more deplorable is, this individual is going to collect $5k AND have someone else solve their "problem."
Anyone with even a shred of decency would have already been calling around finding a retirement spot for this horse.
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I stand corrected. He was racing in cheaper claimers in Delaware with Hal Belote before someone from The Meadowlands got wind of it and rescued him, then retired him to their Paddock Park. Other than winning the Hambo, Shiaway St Pat didn't do much else in his career. When you're a gelding, if you're sound, the only thing you can do is race unless you want a family pet.
No need, like I said, it was an urban myth that simply became the truth over time. Yes, after winning the first Hambo ever at the Meadowlands in 81, he never equalled or raced at that high of a level; and yes, the Meadowlands rescued him, retired him, and brought him home in 1988 when he was 10 years old.
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No need, like I said, it was an urban myth that simply became the truth over time. Yes, after winning the first Hambo ever at the Meadowlands in 81, he never equalled or raced at that high of a level; and yes, the Meadowlands rescued him, retired him, and brought him home in 1988 when he was 10 years old.
He raced in cheep claimers in Maine in the mid 80s not much stock at that point. Should have been in a field.
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was running some errands and seen a trailer with new jersey plates pulling into to the home of the flying turns.
yogi is that you?
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The owner had Rene Allard train for him for years. None of this shocks me just because of that.
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With over so called 6600 members i suggest that we all get together and buy this horse and just give him to SCM! Thats less than 80 cents per member!
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Is it possible that Holzman will claim him since he's the one that said he had a forever home after retirement?
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was running some errands and seen a trailer with new jersey plates pulling into to the home of the flying turns.
yogi is that you?
Jen Bongiorno said she's putting in a claim. Good for her!
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Jen Bongiorno said she's putting in a claim. Good for her!
No chance , Paul has no money , never has , I have known him since he was 12
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do you think the old boy runs off one last time? he should.
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There are going to be at least 5 claims. The groom is claiming him because Singh is not a good enough person to give her the horse
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How much money has the horse made for his current owners?
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He raced in cheep claimers in Maine in the mid 80s not much stock at that point. Should have been in a field.
I can pull up his lines and see where and when he actually raced, but I do remember when the Meadowlands got the call on this, it was discussed one Saturday morning at the qualifiers. Ray Remmen was the first one who said he would put up the money to buy him and retire him. Class move by a class act guy. I just don't remember if someone actually had to claim him. Phil Tully was involved and it was either him, Joe DeFrank or someone from executive management at the Meadowlands called and I think they bought him privately. I don't remember the details.
He spent his retirement summers in a personal paddock at the Meadowlands' Paddock Park and I forgot which NJ farm the rest of year. Remember, this tough old guy won the Hambo going three heats out of an potential four! During his retirement, for many years, he lead the Hambletonian post parade. After many years he was retired by the SRF and was sent home to the farm of the vet who originally cared for him and gelded him in Michigan.
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He is scratched tonight just got the news.
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Damn that sucks...would've like to have seen the old boy go one more time.
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He is scratched tonight just got the news.
He can still be claimed though because he was entered to race.
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True, but would anyone actually do that? How long do they have to turn over the horse? I knew it was a thing...never heard of anyone actually doing it.
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He can still be claimed though because he was entered to race.
Only Within 30 or 60 days i believe
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Only Within 30 or 60 days i believe
In his case, I'm sure there were several claims put in for him, so it will be the luck of the draw who gets him.
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Not updated on xpressbet as of yet and it's inside an hour and a half. Are we sure this is a fact?
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Not updated on xpressbet as of yet and it's inside an hour and a half. Are we sure this is a fact?
Not scratched yet either on my 2 ADW's, but they don't normally have the scratches until about 45 minutes prior to first race post time.
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Yeah might be a little early to be listed.
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Yeah might be a little early to be listed.
In Northfields daily double possibilities, he's not scratched.
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He's scratched on my betting app
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you can still claim a scratched horse. They have to bring him to track within 24hrs and you have the right to take or not to take.
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Wondering if someone told this POS owner they can do better offering the horse up to a bail pen* and splitting the proceeds when Southwind gets bailed out for an exorbitant amount.
Poor horse is a perfect candidate to be taken advantage of by scumbags and lowlifes
* https://paulickreport.com/news/ray-s-paddock/voss-bail-pen-reporting-taught-me-that-no-matter-whats-spin-horses-pay-the-price
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I wonder if some will go get him.
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you can still claim a scratched horse. They have to bring him to track within 24hrs and you have the right to take or not to take.
Not in Ohio. Have to go behind gate to get claimed
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Someone should have chipped him. May already be far gone. Hope not. Hopefully he was donated to a retirement home,
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The owner was probably offered $6,000 on a private sale and decided to grab the guaranteed extra $1,000.
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He would be eligible to be claimed for 5k in his next start no matter what. But there won't be another start so he is staying where he is.
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The reason he was scratched is listed as veterinarian.. injured.. per the usta entries and results page.
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They always say injured, vets lie all the time. When I had horses and was in the last race #8 , I would tell my vet I ain’t driving a hour away , last race , 8 hole, scratch him sick or injured. This horse has been the talk alot lately. Don’t know what their plans are now to do with southwind Amazon but I can guarantee you, he is not injured.
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They always say injured, vets lie all the time. When I had horses and was in the last race #8 , I would tell my vet I ain’t driving a hour away , last race , 8 hole, scratch him sick or injured. This horse has been the talk alot lately. Don’t know what their plans are now to do with southwind Amazon but I can guarantee you, he is not injured.
Agree.
Vets can and will do some shady crap! Scratching him inured will sway a lot from putting in a claim as well, He's probably been sold, and new owner has him and old trainer/Owner don't have the horse to bring to track if hes claimed!
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Amateur Races??
So long as the horse was not on the Steward's List during 2024 for afib or lameness, he should be able to race up to 3 times/month and win up to a maximum of $25,000 during his 15th year. Not sure why this has not been considered one of the possibilities for him? He certainly can go with the MADC horses.
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The reason he was scratched is listed as veterinarian.. injured.. per the usta entries and results page.
Which like most usta things, mean nothing..
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I sent a check to my trainer. He would of lived his days out here on my farm. Fuck Holzman and Najor. Both have no class
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Well does anyone know where the horse wound up?
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Well does anyone know where the horse wound up?
There's a Facebook thread somewhere that indicates, per the horse's groom, he was scratched to guarantee he wouldn't end up at a bad end, and is heading to retirement in Michigan. No idea if that is accurate.
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There's a Facebook thread somewhere that indicates, per the horse's groom, he was scratched to guarantee he wouldn't end up at a bad end, and is heading to retirement in Michigan. No idea if that is accurate.
He had no business even entering him in a $5000 claiming race, did he want to get rid of the horse that badly?