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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: PIGLAND on December 28, 2024, 10:51:51 AM
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LUKE PARK I TOLD YOU HE IS A SCUM
MILLER, ERVIN M WIND GAP, PA YOB 1966
YR on 10/15/2024 FINED: $1,000
FULL - 60 DAYS, 12/16/2024 THRU 2/13/2025
HORSE DISQUALIFIED - PLACED 8
POSITIVE TEST- PRE RACE
On 10/15/2024, at Yonkers Raceway, Ervin Miller, was the trainer of the horse #6
WESTERN ERA in the 8th race. Pre- race sample tag number CV3570228 showed TCO2
concentration of 46.8 millimoles per liter, which exceeded the allowable limit by the
NYSGC. Ervin Miller is hereby assessed a penalty of $1000.00 fine and 60-day
suspension. Western Era finished 6th is hereby disqualified and placed last. The horse
WESTERN ERA must submit to a 6-hour pre-race detention each time raced for a period of
6 months, 10/15/2024 through 4/15/2025 without regard to whether the horse is transferred
to a new owner or trainer. During the term of suspension, Ervin Miller, will be denied the
privilege of and access to all grounds under the supervision of the NYSGC.No trainer
transfers of horse owned by or
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HOW BAD WAS IT ,NOBODY GETS CAUGHT AT JONKERS
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LUKE PARK I TOLD YOU HE IS A SCUM
Erv taught Sandals when the little shit was dating Erv's daughter.
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Contamination. The groom made cakes for the holidays and forgot to wash her hands. Her recipes call for extra baking soda.
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Contamination. The groom made cakes for the holidays and forgot to wash her hands. Her recipes call for extra baking soda.
agree
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11.wp Wait a second here----anyone check the date?? OCT 15 is when the horse raced-finished up the track so the CO2 did 0
WHY DID THEY WAIT NEARLY 3 MONTHS???.
I know for a fact-that in some racing jurisdictions-they do pre race CO2 testing and post the results on the notice board BEFORE the races start.Thats helpful for the bettors-and high Co2 are scratched BEFORE the race.
"Thoroughbred Safety Committee strongly encourages all state racing
commissions to publish the TCO2 levels of each horse tested to ensure the public that
testing is being conducted and participants are below the regulatory thresholds
Yonkers gives the betting public 0 protection in allowing horses to race that should be scratched."
What good is a system to the bettors that doesnt protect their investment???
What about the horse Miller raced between OCT 15 and now?? Yonkers doesnt prerace test all horses in a race-in fact--not many at all---so for all we know-MILLER has been racing every horses loaded to the gills with baking soda!!
Want a solution?? Here it is---get the Vet on duty to test every horse before the races start- he gives most Lasix anyway-so just do it then--a tCo2 analyzer isnt that expensive-I asked my Vet. Print the results(in fact the machine does this anyway) post the results-and everyone is the wiser-the betting public happy-integrity enhanced-and no more cheating advising which horses/race are being tested etc Im told this has happened in the past.)
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11.wp Wait a second here----anyone check the date?? OCT 15 is when the horse raced-finished up the track so the CO2 did 0
WHY DID THEY WAIT NEARLY 3 MONTHS???.
I know for a fact-that in some racing jurisdictions-they do pre race CO2 testing and post the results on the notice board BEFORE the races start.Thats helpful for the bettors-and high Co2 are scratched BEFORE the race.
Yonkers gives the betting public 0 protection in allowing horses to race that should be scratched.
What good is a system to the bettors that doesnt protect their investment???
What about the horse Miller raced between OCT 15 and now?? Yonkers doesnt prerace test all horses in a race-in fact--not many at all---so for all we know-MILLER has been racing every horses loaded to the gills with baking soda!!
Moral of the story is NEVER bet a dime at Yonkers. It's the wild west of drugs and corruption.
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Moral of the story is NEVER bet a dime at Yonkers. It's the wild west of drugs and corruption.
Read my post again--doesnt have to be like that---with a little effort-this CO2 BS can be eliminated
Same with the post position draw--should be done online... Can you imagine all lotteries just printing out numbers and no one around to witness the draw??
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TCO2 isn't just an overage like banamine, bute and lasix. TCO2 is most likely an attempt to enhance performance, in other words, CHEAT! Some trainers are masters at keeping it under the limit but if you are gasing your horses, you are cheating. I like the stiff penalty and I would be checking all of his horses before every race. Bet his statistics would tank.
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Moral of the story is NEVER bet a dime at Yonkers. It's the wild west of drugs and corruption.
But there is very low CAW play there. Gamblers are way better off betting with wild west drugs and corruption than severe CAW impact at places like the meadowlands
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Read my post again--doesnt have to be like that---with a little effort-this CO2 BS can be eliminated
Same with the post position draw--should be done online... Can you imagine all lotteries just printing out numbers and no one around to witness the draw??
I did read your post and that is why I commented and yes I agree that it doesn't have to be like that. Like many on here there are many tracks on my DO NOT WAGER list and Yonkers is on the top of that list for a multitude of reasons. Drugs, corruption and horrible racing product.
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11.wp Wait a second here----anyone check the date?? OCT 15 is when the horse raced-finished up the track so the CO2 did 0
WHY DID THEY WAIT NEARLY 3 MONTHS???.
I know for a fact-that in some racing jurisdictions-they do pre race CO2 testing and post the results on the notice board BEFORE the races start.Thats helpful for the bettors-and high Co2 are scratched BEFORE the race.
"Thoroughbred Safety Committee strongly encourages all state racing
commissions to publish the TCO2 levels of each horse tested to ensure the public that
testing is being conducted and participants are below the regulatory thresholds
Yonkers gives the betting public 0 protection in allowing horses to race that should be scratched."
What good is a system to the bettors that doesnt protect their investment???
What about the horse Miller raced between OCT 15 and now?? Yonkers doesnt prerace test all horses in a race-in fact--not many at all---so for all we know-MILLER has been racing every horses loaded to the gills with baking soda!!
Want a solution?? Here it is---get the Vet on duty to test every horse before the races start- he gives most Lasix anyway-so just do it then--a tCo2 analyzer isnt that expensive-I asked my Vet. Print the results(in fact the machine does this anyway) post the results-and everyone is the wiser-the betting public happy-integrity enhanced-and no more cheating advising which horses/race are being tested etc Im told this has happened in the past.)
You trust the vets ???
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You trust the vets ???
ngc3 Any time where money is involved--NO--but I trust a computer printout and results stored on hard drive.
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LUKE HOW DID HE BILL FOR THE DRUGS? WAS IT ON YOUR MONTHLY BILL?
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LUKE HOW DID HE BILL FOR THE DRUGS? WAS IT ON YOUR MONTHLY BILL?
Luke knows what’s going on, probably held the funnel
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Luke knows what’s going on, probably held the funnel
AGREE
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[quote author=JT link=topic=79317.msg1185031#msg1185031
my DO NOT WAGER list and Yonkers is on the top of that list for a multitude of reasons. Drugs, corruption and horrible racing product.
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Same reasons for myself as well.
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It's a mistake.
He's a good Christian. Family man.
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LUKE HOW DID HE BILL FOR THE DRUGS? WAS IT ON YOUR MONTHLY BILL?
They billed Luke separately for the drugs, but he didn't pay because he was a little short.
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Luke knows what’s going on, probably held the funnel
But who was holding step stool so he could hold the funnel?
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LUKE HOW DID HE BILL FOR THE DRUGS? WAS IT ON YOUR MONTHLY BILL?
erv is a good man very good trainer
all this stuff is not appreciated nor is it funny ,
im sure there was a mistake some how. with this testing yonkers has a reputaion to pick on certain people and a blind eye to others....
by the way ,,ive not had a horse with erv for about 15 months now
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erv is a good man very good trainer
all this stuff is not appreciated nor is it funny ,
im sure there was a mistake some how. with this testing yonkers has a reputaion to pick on certain people and a blind eye to others....
by the way ,,ive not had a horse with erv for about 15 months now
it hasnt been a mistake for years,hes no fucking good
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all this stuff is not appreciated nor is it funny ,
It's very funny. Especially the step stool comment. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I'm in Brooklyn. Put $15,000 bounty on me just like you did to Clubhouse.
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They billed Luke separately for the drugs, but he didn't pay because he was a little short.
ngc3
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erv is a good man very good trainer
all this stuff is not appreciated nor is it funny ,
im sure there was a mistake some how. with this testing yonkers has a reputaion to pick on certain people and a blind eye to others....
by the way ,,ive not had a horse with erv for about 15 months now
Black box doesn't know who the trainer is!
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He can use his off time to get his stable moved from PA to IN.
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He can use his off time to get his stable moved from PA to IN.
What off time ?
He got a few months off at Jonkers Raceway. Business as usual in Pennsylvania.
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What off time ?
He got a few months off at Jonkers Raceway. Business as usual in Pennsylvania.
Your an idiot
If your banned from one your banned from all
Learn the game nitwit
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Here is the thing, just like Burke and many others his suspension is during the dead of winter. If tracks or states truly wanted to punish the drug trainers, the suspension would be given for the stakes season in the summer or fall, with no beards.. but we all know that will never happen. Until changes like that are done, nothing will change.
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Exiled to Sorrento, Fl. for the winter.
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Business as usual in OH just put horses in Benders name
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Just took a trip down memory lane and looked at all major USTA infractions.
I do not know him personally, but generally speaking, a leopard doesn't change its spots.
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Your an idiot
If your banned from one your banned from all
Learn the game nitwit
You use this guy knowing this goes on?
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When has Erv not used diff drugs to try to gain an advantage?
He's even ripping people off on Ongait?
Do people really think he isn't going to do the exact same over & over again?
Can't be that naive
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Exiled to Sorrento, Fl. for the winter.
Been there. A nice place to get 'exiled' to until April 2025! Better than freezing your ass off up north!
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When has Erv not used diff drugs to try to gain an advantage?
He's even ripping people off on Ongait?
Do people really think he isn't going to do the exact same over & over again?
Can't be that naive
I heard from a guy that he is a family man and a Christian ngc3
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I heard from a guy that he is a family man and a Christian ngc3
An Amish Christian?
Praise tha' lord!
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LUKE HOW DID HE BILL FOR THE DRUGS? WAS IT ON YOUR MONTHLY BILL?
Lukpark probably disputed the $.99 charges on his bills
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I must apologize for my erroneous post as to why the Judges waited 3 months to charge Erv Miller with the very high tCO2 infraction.>46 TCo2 is 10 points over the limit---ie loaded to the gills-and not in the best interests of the horse.
Like a moron--i thought that the Judges were actually trying to catch more trainers who were cheating-so thats why they waited before announcing they actually caught a black box cheater..
What really happened-is that they allowed Miller to wait till the meet was over and have Miller serve his time in sunny Florida-while the trainers who didnt cheat--are up North freezing their arse off.
The cronyisms at Yonkers and other places of Harness racing and Drug Labs-is rampant ,alive and out of control.IMHO
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So you're telling me Erv has gas. #Shocker #ThanksTips