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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: wizardofoz on December 28, 2024, 02:02:20 PM
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https://playmeadowlands.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/live-racing-calendar-2025.pdf Oh baby!
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I used to love the Sunday matinees in the old building....1 pm post.
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I used to love the Sunday matinees in the old building....1 pm post.
I also loved those Sunday matinee cards at M1 back in the 90's.
Even though the post times for this will be at 5pm it gets dark early so most of the races will be under the lights.
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The Mighty M was the place to be for Sunday afternoon racing. Then a 10 minute drive down 17B to White Lake for Italian food at El Monaco. tmbz1
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That’s huge !! Move that Freehold show from today up to the swamp!
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The Mighty M was the place to be for Sunday afternoon racing. Then a 10 minute drive down 17B to White Lake for Italian food at El Monaco. tmbz1
I had a summer home for a few decades just up 17b in the Mongaup valley. I used to love those Sunday afternoon cards. For a while there were some decent horses up there, not great but decent.
It seemed that Peas of Work was in the feature on Sunday's for a while. Then the usual speedsters that ran out of gas at the 3/4 every week like Jetro and Jethro Bodine. Goalie Jeff did race once there as a 2yo in the 90's.
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I have missed the Big m on Sundays... Just hope the big boys will be their... 11.wp
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I have missed the Big m on Sundays... Just hope the big boys will be their... 11.wp
I remember the Sunday cards at M1 having less than stellar horses. NW1 or NW2 types. Shippers from all over even Monti.
I bet a lot of the Freehold stock will wind up on those Sunday cards.
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I remember the same thing, Kantsee. Cheap trots and low level conditioned pacers.
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Sunday nights in the winter? Horsemen traditionally build their barn schedules around Sunday, more specifically Sunday Night being a day off. Although, I do recall Liberty Bell having success with a very good card on Sunday Night.
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Sunday nights in the winter? Horsemen traditionally build their barn schedules around Sunday, more specifically Sunday Night being a day off. Although, I do recall Liberty Bell having success with a very good card on Sunday Night.
Pompano Park (RIP) did well too!!
FYI, look at what tracks raced Sunday nights over the years and their handles!! The results could be interspersed to see and discuss.
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Pompano Park (RIP) did well too!!
FYI, look at what tracks raced Sunday nights over the years and their handles!! The results could be interspersed to see and discuss.
Sunday night cards at Meadowlands will be for cheap Freehold type horses, and alot of Meadowlands regular drivers will take the night off.
Brandywine Raceway used to also race on Sunday night's with great success. Sometimes they'd have a big-time driver come and drive in all the races. Their publicity guy was Colonel Dave Herman, who used to dress in loud flashy outfits and did a great job promoting the track.
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Every nite is junk racing at the Meadowlands.
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Every nite is junk racing at the Meadowlands.
Where is it top notch every night Yonkers J? For the third time in the last four years, average daily handle at The Meadowlands exceeded $3 million. After $2,894,453 was wagered on Saturday’s 14-race card, action for the 88 programs contested during 2024 totaled $264,427,375, an average per card of $3,004,856. In addition, over the course of the year, betting bettered the $3-million mark on 46 occasions at the industry’s handle leader, meaning wagering exceeded that lofty plateau 52 percent of the time.
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The other major changes in the schedule is that they will NOT close on Hambletonian day as is tradition but will now race the entire month of August into mid-September. The Monmouth TB meet at the Meadowlands might be 10 weeks on both the turf and the grass this year, from the mid-September through the end of November which will definitely affect the fall stakes season there, if there will even be one now. Once the $1.6 million for Freehold is re-routed to the Meadowlands, additional race dates will be added as well.
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And now there's a new post time at Woodbine/Mohawk!!! Something else for people to complain about! LOL.
As far as the Meadowlands schedule, personally, I would rather see the Big M close after/around Hambo day. Then, let the t-bred people contribute to converting the track for t-breds. Run a regular t-bred meet for September, October, maybe even into November. You will eventually lose the turf course, so then it would be dirt only (but keep the turf going as long possible). Then convert the track back to harness and let the Big M open just before or just after year-end. I think this will provide numerous benefits all around.
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I remember the same thing, Kantsee. Cheap trots and low level conditioned pacers.
They often had Open/Invitational trots on those Sundays... most of the card was lower conditions
I would go Garden St and bet them on the simulcast
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This is great for all those freehold people who are desperate to race somewhere. Batavia is buying a few .
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I'm sure Gural will end up getting Freehold's purse subsidy to fund these races.
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I would like to get an update from the SBOANJ and find out the status of the Freehold allocation. I heard Gural was going to meet with the Freehold horsemen to try and offer them some program where they could race for their portion of the money. I have no idea how they would do that, but it certainly could be feasible.
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As much as Gural whines that he's losing money racing, you can almost bet they added those racing dates knowing they're getting Freehold's purse subsidy.
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Sunday night cards at Meadowlands will be for cheap Freehold type horses, and alot of Meadowlands regular drivers will take the night off.
Brandywine Raceway used to also race on Sunday night's with great success. Sometimes they'd have a big-time driver come and drive in all the races. Their publicity guy was Colonel Dave Herman, who used to dress in loud flashy outfits and did a great job promoting the track.
I remember at the end of some years, Eddie Davis and Herve would battle at whichever Delaware Valley track was open, for the national dash winning title.
Also, Green Mountain used to import Herve occasionally on Sundays- he did have a small string there anyway under the care of Gil Hamel. Joe Marsh Jr would occasionally come up. With a minimum purse of $ 600, I would expect these guys were compensated by the track. Five percent of a $ 300 win check, didn’t go very far.
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It's like when Georgetown Raceway ran and the purses were all $500 regardless of the class. The winning driver's share was $12.50. If you finished 5th, the driver got $1.25.
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I remember at the end of some years, Eddie Davis and Herve would battle at whichever Delaware Valley track was open, for the national dash winning title.
Also, Green Mountain used to import Herve occasionally on Sundays- he did have a small string there anyway under the care of Gil Hamel. Joe Marsh Jr would occasionally come up. With a minimum purse of $ 600, I would expect these guys were compensated by the track. Five percent of a $ 300 win check, didn’t go very far.
Brandywine was a warm weather track--Liberty Bell raced in the winter
Herve raced at freehold during the day and either RR or YR at night
he never drove full time at Brandywine or Liberty Bell--only Grand Circuit or Sunday nights
it was usually Davis and Ross Hayter battling for driving titles in the DelVal
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I lived 1 mile from Brandywine and was there every night and Herve raced full time for a few years. He didn't move to New York fulltime until the early 70's. Back in those days Brandywine ran from mid-May to Labor Day which almost mirrored when Freehold would be closed. Herve didn't have alot of Grand Circuit horses, his best was Nansemond who beat Albatross in the Little Brown Jug.
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Sunday could be interesting...if it isn't trash Thursday cards.
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I lived 1 mile from Brandywine and was there every night and Herve raced full time for a few years. He didn't move to New York fulltime until the early 70's. Back in those days Brandywine ran from mid-May to Labor Day which almost mirrored when Freehold would be closed. Herve didn't have alot of Grand Circuit horses, his best was Nansemond who beat Albatross in the Little Brown Jug.
thanks for the correction tmbz1
I started going to Brandywine/Liberty Bell in the late 70s and of course was unaware Herve did that
this must have been in the late 60s
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I started going to Brandywine when I was 14 or 15 in the late 60's and Herve was driving there at the time, mostly cheap claimers. A few years later I went to Liberty Bell, but you had to be 21 to get in, so we snuck in by jumping the fence.
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Sunday nights were a very big deal in the Del Val area late 70s early 80s-the best card of the week
those summer Sundays at Brandywine were memorable
attended a handful of "Battle of Brandywine" finals-some on Sundays
Niatross may have raced on a Sat in 1980 for his Battle
saw Icarus Lobell defeat No Nukes by a nose--Garnsey was cocky went first up-giving perfect cover to Herve and Icarus--one of Herve's greatest drives because No Nukes was always a few lengths better
one of biggest scores as a teen was Vankirk (Steve Warrington)winning his Battle on a Sunday night
those were the days
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The Battle of Brandywine was only a $25,000 purse but they got the best 3-year-olds, later on they raised it to $37,500. Even when they had their FFA Pace or Trot, the purse was only $25,000, but the best horses showed up because it was a big purse in those days.
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I lived 1 mile from Brandywine and was there every night and Herve raced full time for a few years. He didn't move to New York fulltime until the early 70's. Back in those days Brandywine ran from mid-May to Labor Day which almost mirrored when Freehold would be closed. Herve didn't have alot of Grand Circuit horses, his best was Nansemond who beat Albatross in the Little Brown Jug.
You only need 1 good grand circuit horse to get more grand circuit horses to drive!
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That's true, but back in those days most horses on the Grand Circuit were driven by their trainers, and picking up a drive in those races was rare.
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Change of dates finalized and NO Sunday racing in February or March: The second calendar is the updated one: https://playmeadowlands.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/2025-Stakes-Calendar.pdf
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Change of dates finalized and NO Sunday racing in February or March: The second calendar is the updated one: https://playmeadowlands.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/2025-Stakes-Calendar.pdf
nice
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Told you the swamp dates vanished. Sell those garbage cans that keep showing up from Freehold . Really ?
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Those noon Saturdays look interesting.
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Unless they updated their calendar, the only 12:00 Noon Saturday I see is on Hambo Day which is normal.
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Unless they updated their calendar, the only 12:00 Noon Saturday I see is on Hambo Day which is normal.
You are correct, I made that post in the wee hours while rubbing my eyes.
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DRF article explains what happened to Sunday race dates. The Meadowlands gets the 1.6 million that was allocated to Freehold.
https://www.drf.com/news/meadowlands-freeholds-16-million-state-funds-approved-big-m-use?fbclid=IwY2xjawITfZpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHbsoZ9JYvaPGaTmcpw87zvRuvwzo3JkzoDk0dG3TH8d4jlflvvPsBktPJg_aem_UjU4mknvtGToSbjW6RPi1Q
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The other major changes in the schedule is that they will NOT close on Hambletonian day as is tradition but will now race the entire month of August into mid-September. The Monmouth TB meet at the Meadowlands might be 10 weeks on both the turf and the grass this year, from the mid-September through the end of November which will definitely affect the fall stakes season there, if there will even be one now. Once the $1.6 million for Freehold is re-routed to the Meadowlands, additional race dates will be added as well.
they will race on turf and grass--interesting