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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: JENNY FROM THE BLOCK on January 02, 2025, 08:47:16 AM
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should thank Bianconi for writing all these series for non winners 750 per start for all their horses this winter. its like an invasion ans they still can't win.
some really bad horses. or bad trainers or both.
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I would think more of an issue with the horses quality than the trainer. The best of the best trainers got out of Mich years ago. Left with 3rd tier trainers for the most part.
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they are mostly auto toss
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Drivers are weird also. Kody Massey purposely running down John Ciocca was a gem. He brings a chip on his shoulder to the track. You'll never see Merriman do that nonsense.
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Drivers are weird also. Kody Massey purposely running down John Ciocca was a gem. He brings a chip on his shoulder to the track. You'll never see Merriman do that nonsense.
Why wouldn't johnny let him go and retake. They both ended out of the money.
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Drivers are weird also. Kody Massey purposely running down John Ciocca was a gem. He brings a chip on his shoulder to the track. You'll never see Merriman do that nonsense.
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maybe cioccas daddy had his money down. he only started training horses so daddy can bet on them. and massey isnt much stock. neither can drive a hot nail into a snowbank. both are terrible.
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JC’s doing pretty good for himself
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when you say pretty good for himself if you mean when vague traces drops to the bottom level and wins. if thats pretty good then yea. but wasnt that horse a better than average horse at one point?
the horse drops in class he gets a good price because no one bets him. daddy sits at the bar and bets him. he pays good. everyone is happy. horse moves up and cant win.
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He’s doing pretty good for himself
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got it!
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got it!
I didn’t see it posted, but ya , vague traces is a rat but thinking he stays to himself the I’d is alright he has confidence and is patient 🤷🏼♀️
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when you say pretty good for himself if you mean when vague traces drops to the bottom level and wins. if thats pretty good then yea. but wasnt that horse a better than average horse at one point?
the horse drops in class he gets a good price because no one bets him. daddy sits at the bar and bets him. he pays good. everyone is happy. horse moves up and cant win.
That horse has never been better then average look at the early lines
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got it!
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I personally think Ciocca Jr. is pretty good. Also he seems to know to stay out of the way when he has no horse.
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I personally think Ciocca Jr. is pretty good. Also he seems to know to stay out of the way when he has no horse.
which is more often then not.
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when you say pretty good for himself if you mean when vague traces drops to the bottom level and wins. if thats pretty good then yea. but wasnt that horse a better than average horse at one point?
the horse drops in class he gets a good price because no one bets him. daddy sits at the bar and bets him. he pays good. everyone is happy. horse moves up and cant win.
The cycle of 'cheap horses'! You have to read a program and see if/when they are ready. You also have to hope and pray you get good betting value too!
This is how the "little guy" in the business can stay afloat, if he is fortunate enough to cash a few tickets!
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So is is right by the public to sit in and go around there twice if you draw bad. Or draw in a tough race? Is it not race fixing? I did it too. I know the game. No one knows but you and the driver. Not everyone tries every race. And that's an issue. It's defrauding the public unless you know who likes to do that and even then you are still guessing.
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So is is right by the public to sit in and go around there twice if you draw bad. Or draw in a tough race? Is it not race fixing? I did it too. I know the game. No one knows but you and the driver. Not everyone tries every race. And that's an issue. It's defrauding the public unless you know who likes to do that and even then you are still guessing.
THIS PROBLEM HAS BEEN ADDRESSED HERE IN MICHIGAN. ngc3 tmbz1
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Addressed by just closing up shop? Great idea. These guys have to be starving in cleveland. They very rarely win let alone get checks. It's kinda sad. They should keep going east to monticello.
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Addressed by just closing up shop? Great idea. These guys have to be starving in cleveland. They very rarely win let alone get checks. It's kinda sad. They should keep going east to monticello.
Ha ya and all Michigan horseman/woman do is bitch bitch bitch. It's embarrassing actually. Horrible stock and average trainers left...everyone else left years ago.
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Addressed by just closing up shop? Great idea. These guys have to be starving in cleveland. They very rarely win let alone get checks. It's kinda sad. They should keep going east to monticello.
Perhaps they should try Buffalo/Batavia/Vernon before Monticello!