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Title: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 03, 2025, 02:32:21 PM
Are these attention seeking Mutts detrimental to the sport of harness racing by constantly posting negative news about harness racing on their social media page?

Is page after page of negative news and fines and suspensions along with bad mouthing others really necessary for the public to see?  Never anything positive always negative. Are they hurting or helping our sport grow by seeking attention to themselves?
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: firhill on January 03, 2025, 04:57:56 PM
You asked three question so I will give three answers (No, No and No).

To make things interesting the three answers are not necessarily in the same order as the questions asked so you have to figure out which answer corresponds to which question.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 03, 2025, 07:43:19 PM
You asked three question so I will give three answers (No, No and No).

To make things interesting the three answers are not necessarily in the same order as the questions asked so you have to figure out which answer corresponds to which question.
you’re entitled to your opinion
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: SwankToliverA on January 03, 2025, 08:23:08 PM
Are these attention seeking Mutts detrimental to the sport of harness racing by constantly posting negative news about harness racing on their social media page?

Is page after page of negative news and fines and suspensions along with bad mouthing others really necessary for the public to see?  Never anything positive always negative. Are they hurting or helping our sport grow by seeking attention to themselves?


Well the fines and suspensions are publicly available for the General Public to view, so yes a light being shone is appropriate.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 03, 2025, 10:03:49 PM

Well the fines and suspensions are publicly available for the General Public to view, so yes a light being shone is appropriate.
what about new prospective owners that are looking to buy horses
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: rainman2 on January 03, 2025, 10:51:43 PM
what about new prospective owners that are looking to buy horses

They have to know too so they can determine their own course of action if they choose to become owners and who to deal with.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Yonkers1A on January 04, 2025, 07:07:20 AM
Are these attention seeking Mutts detrimental to the sport of harness racing by constantly posting negative news about harness racing on their social media page?

Is page after page of negative news and fines and suspensions along with bad mouthing others really necessary for the public to see?  Never anything positive always negative. Are they hurting or helping our sport grow by seeking attention to themselves?

It’s people like you that ruined racing.

Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Arrive7100 on January 04, 2025, 07:33:23 AM
It’s people like you that ruined racing.

Whether it's positive or negative, people are entitled to know the truth instead of a pep rally all the time.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 04, 2025, 05:26:21 PM
It’s people like you that ruined racing.
MP how many identities do you actually have? You might wanna think about getting a job.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 04, 2025, 05:27:00 PM
Whether it's positive or negative, people are entitled to know the truth instead of a pep rally all the time.
that makes sense
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: mwins on January 05, 2025, 10:58:23 AM
So you want a world where nobody is called out for cheating or deceiving the public?
We shouldn't point out things like CAWs, doping, or running the Kings Plate on a Friday, because your son is getting married on that Saturday?

I prefer to be informed.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 05, 2025, 02:28:30 PM
So you want a world where nobody is called out for cheating or deceiving the public?
We shouldn't point out things like CAWs, doping, or running the Kings Plate on a Friday, because your son is getting married on that Saturday?

I prefer to be informed.
I think it's necessary for them to be informed by the proper authorities. There are a lot of people spewing bullshit just to get clicks on their websites or Facebook and or YouTube pages is definitely detrimental to harness racing.

If somebody's thinking about buying horses let them go to the USTA website and look under fines and suspensions and do their homework they don't need some fucking MUTT screaming like a lunatic ratting everybody and their brother out to make himself look good when he himself violated the same rules years ago who now miraculously became a choir boy is that credible news?  NO

Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 05, 2025, 08:24:18 PM

 I think you're referring to a rat wearing a wire/live recorder into a closed door conversation.

 No one likes a cock-pigeon
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 05, 2025, 10:02:10 PM
I think you're referring to a rat wearing a wire/live recorder into a closed door conversation.

 No one likes a cock-pigeon
  Smart man....well if the shoe fits....

cock -pigeon ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 05, 2025, 10:21:19 PM
  Smart man....well if the shoe fits....

cock -pigeon ngc3 ngc3

  tmbz1

  ngc3
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Dostoevsky on January 05, 2025, 10:42:34 PM
what about new prospective owners that are looking to buy horses
It probably is a service to them, as most owners tend to deliberately seek the outlaws, because they earn more than honest trainers, who won't get owners because the criminals make more money.
And around and around it goes, until the tracks are all condos, and the chemists are working at Lowes...
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 05, 2025, 10:51:28 PM
  tmbz1

  ngc3
  It's pitiful how it comes down to running around making up stories to get clicks or fellow losers to buy into your bullshit when you have a neglected family.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: AgentQ on January 05, 2025, 11:19:12 PM
Most people can decipher between a horseplop inbred and an articulate person with some knowledge of the sport. Limiting the discourse on what can be said is never a good idea, those that spew hate and nonsense for the sake of personal satisfaction will be quickly identified and not taken serious. I'm shocked at how little is done to those that have created the mess which we as an industry are in and most likely will never recover from. Idiotic horsemen orgs, incompetent racetrack management teams to unqualified racing commissions--there is no end to the stupidity. I say call them out before it's too late
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 06, 2025, 02:54:22 PM
Most people can decipher between a horseplop inbred and an articulate person with some knowledge of the sport. Limiting the discourse on what can be said is never a good idea, those that spew hate and nonsense for the sake of personal satisfaction will be quickly identified and not taken serious. I'm shocked at how little is done to those that have created the mess which we as an industry are in and most likely will never recover from. Idiotic horsemen orgs, incompetent racetrack management teams to unqualified racing commissions--there is no end to the stupidity. I say call them out before it's too late
I agree between that and nepotism has ruined the sport along with wannabe YouTube entrepreneurs.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: #makebarntrashworkagain on January 06, 2025, 02:56:32 PM
I agree between that and nepotism has ruined the sport along with wannabe YouTube entrepreneurs.

And yet here you are talking about "them" and too chicken shit to say who you are. Gaagoots Jr.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 06, 2025, 05:20:12 PM
  It's pitiful how it comes down to running around making up stories to get clicks or fellow losers to buy into your bullshit when you have a neglected family.

 Everything turns into a "hey guys, I ratted people out for my own benefit (gofund me is on the left) and got people who actually matter to listen to me! I didn't do this when I was in the barns, only when I finally realized no one wants me around"

 Sometimes it's best to do the goodness out of the bottom of your heart, no need for pats on the back of you're a good guy.

 Lonely ol' Christmas, I'm sure

 
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 06, 2025, 07:46:46 PM
Everything turns into a "hey guys, I ratted people out for my own benefit (gofund me is on the left) and got people who actually matter to listen to me! I didn't do this when I was in the barns, only when I finally realized no one wants me around"

 Sometimes it's best to do the goodness out of the bottom of your heart, no need for pats on the back of you're a good guy.

 Lonely ol' Christmas, I'm sure
Hummm sound like the Mutt finagling for money…ya think!
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 06, 2025, 07:47:34 PM
And yet here you are talking about "them" and too chicken shit to say who you are. Gaagoots Jr.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
what’s the matter? Did I hit a nerve?
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 06, 2025, 08:40:38 PM
what’s the matter? Did I hit a nerve?

 Imagine how fast he would have ran to a computer to post about his good deed.

 "Pat me on the back & thank me"

 Even though my family had nothing to thank me for again this year!

 
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: JT on January 06, 2025, 09:04:44 PM
Since the title of this thread is detrimental to harness racing, here is my list in no particular order. Drugs. Fixed races, post drag. Single file racing, CAW, high take out rates, beard trainers, not harsh enough penalties for when trainers actually get caught or suspensions pushed to the winter, except for a few exceptions no young driving talent, races going off at the same time, no emphasis on the triple crown races, horses retiring after their 3 year old campaign, except for a few exceptions idiots on the pre race shows and bad race callers. People like Wendy Ross who is besties with the Bongiorno crime family and Jessica Otten rubbing people's face in it when the elite turf club scores a huge win being faces of harness racing. I could go on but that's enough don't ya think? And some people wonder why in 10 years there might be just a few tracks left.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 06, 2025, 09:27:04 PM


 Even though my family had nothing to thank me for again this year!
. Kole what family?
The Mutt can't create his own happiness always looking for validation from others typical attention addict. He's constantly looking for validation from others through social media what a sad life
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 06, 2025, 09:28:08 PM
Since the title of this thread is detrimental to harness racing, here is my list in no particular order. Drugs. Fixed races, post drag. Single file racing, CAW, high take out rates, beard trainers, not harsh enough penalties for when trainers actually get caught or suspensions pushed to the winter, except for a few exceptions no young driving talent, races going off at the same time, no emphasis on the triple crown races, horses retiring after their 3 year old campaign, except for a few exceptions idiots on the pre race shows and bad race callers. People like Wendy Ross who is besties with the Bongiorno crime family and Jessica Otten rubbing people's face in it when the elite turf club scores a huge win being faces of harness racing. I could go on but that's enough don't ya think? And some people wonder why in 10 years there might be just a few tracks left.
I couldn't agree more all legitimate GOOD facts although I think Wendy Ross's intentions are good.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 06, 2025, 09:31:08 PM
. Kole what family?
The Mutt can't create his own happiness always looking for validation from others typical attention addict. He's constantly looking for validation from others through social media what a sad life

 "Look at me, I did something! Thank me guise!!"

 
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 06, 2025, 09:44:43 PM
"Look at me, I did something! Thank me guise!!"
Exactly! Mutt don't take care of himself fucking teeth look like the urinals at Yankee Stadium would somebody buy this poor fuck a toothbrush!

He's like the bearer of bad news imagine spending your day kissing ass trying to find tidbits of information. 
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 06, 2025, 10:03:21 PM
Exactly! Mutt don't take care of himself fucking teeth look like the urinals at Yankee Stadium would somebody buy this poor fuck a toothbrush!

He's like the bearer of bad news imagine spending your day kissing ass trying to find tidbits of information.


 I always thought there was something to be said about ambulance chasers & those who run a live recorder in their pocket, eeking his way through life.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 06, 2025, 10:24:21 PM

 I always thought there was something to be said about ambulance chasers & those who run a live recorder in their pocket, eeking his way through life.
if you looked it up in dictionary your description would be called A MUTT or a Rat fuck.  What a sad life....
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Harness racer on January 07, 2025, 06:48:11 AM
I couldn't agree more all legitimate GOOD facts although I think Wendy Ross's intentions are good.

I disagree...Wendy knows what the deal is and doesn't care.  She's no better than clueless Otten giving congrats to a program set up to beat the everyday horse player.  Otten's sister seems to do a better job and hasn't said anything stupid like her sister.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: Mr.Turnpike on January 07, 2025, 07:50:41 AM
Are these attention seeking Mutts detrimental to the sport of harness racing by constantly posting negative news about harness racing on their social media page?

Is page after page of negative news and fines and suspensions along with bad mouthing others really necessary for the public to see?  Never anything positive always negative. Are they hurting or helping our sport grow by seeking attention to themselves?
   Good post I was wondering what happened to harness racing
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 07, 2025, 12:44:46 PM
   Good post I was wondering what happened to harness racing
Thank you. All these contributing factors helped create the demise of harness racing.

If an owner wants factual information go to the USTA website and not listen to some non-credible information on social media spewed by some bust out bitter gamblers.

Thankfully most people with money have a brain when they see somebody like the MUTT carrying on they don’t pay attention they could spot a bullshitter a mile away.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on January 07, 2025, 12:45:54 PM
I disagree...Wendy knows what the deal is and doesn't care.  She's no better than clueless Otten giving congrats to a program set up to beat the everyday horse player.  Otten's sister seems to do a better job and hasn't said anything stupid like her sister.
I can’t argue with you. I don’t know Wendy personally.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: #makebarntrashworkagain on February 17, 2025, 09:33:58 PM
I think you're referring to a rat wearing a wire/live recorder into a closed door conversation.

 No one likes a cock-pigeon

Says the anonymous paper trainer woman beater.  ngc3
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: #makebarntrashworkagain on February 17, 2025, 09:55:12 PM
SCM would verify

Now how's that? I don't know either of those women. You fucking cowards will sit here and talk about them as chicken shits anonymously though. Why not ask them yourselves? Pussies.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on February 18, 2025, 01:01:25 PM
Now how's that? I don't know either of those women. You fucking cowards will sit here and talk about them as chicken shits anonymously though. Why not ask them yourselves? Pussies.
how many fucking screens do you have? Don’t you have anything better to do? Get a fucking job loser.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: #makebarntrashworkagain on February 18, 2025, 01:03:21 PM
how many fucking screens do you have? Don’t you have anything better to do? Get a fucking job loser.

Just proves how fucking STUPID you are.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: KING HAKU on February 18, 2025, 09:30:49 PM
Just proves how fucking STUPID you are.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
when are you gonna start posting as MP again? Then you can come on with all your fake aliases and praise yourself.
Title: Re: Detrimental to harness racing
Post by: #makebarntrashworkagain on February 18, 2025, 09:36:42 PM
when are you gonna start posting as MP again? Then you can come on with all your fake aliases and praise yourself.

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