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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Brown jug on January 08, 2025, 02:24:29 PM
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i get it , hanover has done it for years , and it seemed ok, and now deo farms do similar
twin b and seelster and warrawee in Canada as well
but these ones especially in Canada putting th in front of every yearling or da in front just so we know who bred them ..STOP ALREADY!
IF YOU BREED A GOOD/GREAT HORSE PEOPLE WILL FIND YOU
you don't need to advertise it with every horse you breed and sell , remember some of them will stink
i dont see hunterton or brittany etc having to "brand " their yearlings
i implore everyone who buys a yearling with the farm name /initials in it to immediately change it
use some imagination and name it what you want
we dont want to see the day ( although am sure there have been many) with 4 hanover horse against 2 deo horses and a few seelsters and th thrown in
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Interesting topic.
tmbz1
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I also find it annoying! tmbz1
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Years ago it was Lowell as the end name
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Lobell?
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I don't think Leavitt ever used a letter system for Lobell. Back in those days the most famous breeder to do that was the Armstrong Brothers. The Armbros all had the same letter for their last name which would change every year.
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Sometimes that bothers me sometimes not. My personal favorite was the Peter Pan Stable in Pepper Pike, Ohio.
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good comments
i just think its better when horses, especially the good/great ones have great names
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I don't think Leavitt ever used a letter system for Lobell. Back in those days the most famous breeder to do that was the Armstrong Brothers. The Armbros all had the same letter for their last name which would change every year.
Love the armbro horses!
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Putting the breeders info in the program under the ownership has to be the dumbest thing ever. Gamblers don't care about that stuff. Who comes up with these ideas anyway, why not concentrate on fixing what is broken. As for the names, I always change my yearlings name.
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Lobell?
Sorry, typo. Auto corrected Lobell to Lowell and I didn’t catch it.
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I have seen Illinois bred races where every horse was Fox Valley something.
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Enclosed here are the rules and regulations for registering horses' names!
A money game at USTA? You be the judge!
What do I need to register a foal?
You can either fill out a Foal Registration Application and mail, fax or email it to the USTA office or complete your foal registration via your USTA MyAccount (for mares you own/lease) or Online Services (for mares you do not own). No matter which method is chosen, in order to complete the registration process, the stallion owner must release a mating certificate, either electronically or by mailing in a green mating certificate, to prove the stud fee was paid. Fees for foal registration are based on the length of time between when the foal was born and when the paperwork and fees are received at the USTA:
Registration fee
Sucklings
(within 4 months of the foaling date) $150
Weanlings
(between 4 months and 12/31 of year foaled) $185
Yearlings
(after December 31 of year foaled) $450
If the mating certificate is not released by the stallion owner within the time frames listed above, it will result in the next higher registration fee being assessed. You can check the status of your mare's mating certificate 24/7 on your 'Broodmare Activity' page in MyAccount.
What does the registration fee include?
It includes the registration of your horse, DNA typing and microchipping. If you would like your horse freeze branded instead of microchipped, there is an additional $75 charge. The fee is $75 per horse and can be paid to the USTA ID Technician by credit card when they come to your farm. This is in addition to the normal registration fee and covers the cost of microchipping later to the new owner. If you select to have your horse freeze branded AND microchipped at the same time, a fee of $40 per horse instead of the previously stated $75 per horse will be required, due to a savings in future travel expenses. It is important to mention that before the horse races in 2022 and beyond, the horse will need to be microchipped.
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You know you can change the name. So why care.
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Lobell?
One of my coworkers owned Tandem Lobell.
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Armbro, Avon, White Devon (Barmin/Minbar) Collins, Blue Chip, That's just New York, who cares, if ya want, pick your own name. I've bought from all of them. They don't care, they're the breeder.
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Love the armbro horses!
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Armstrong brothers.
What ever happened to Almahurst?
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I remember for a while Carl and Rod Allen bred a few and started their names with CR.
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Herve and Henri Fillion bred a few way back and started their names with HH.
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My buddy lives in Boulder Block Creek. All his horses were BBC, like BBC Larry, BBC Montel, BBC Leroy. I few went on to be decent studs.
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I couldn't care less what breeders name their foals. Historically this was common, Armstrong, Hanover, Lobell, Almahurst, etc. For commercial breeders it was name recognition. But, when their foals were sold, of course the new owners could change their name. Other commercial breeders followed suit, some followed other naming tracks, and others didn't at all. When Joe Thomson and Ed Gold first started Whitehorse Farm (the precursor to Winbak), in the early days they named many of their early foals using financial terms as they both had financial backgrounds.
FYI:
That said, Almahurst of course wound down over the years, had a major dispersal, and the farm was eventually sold to thoroughbred owner/breeder Ken Ramsey. He has since sold off most of the farm.
The original HH moniker was that of NJ's own Heritage Hill Farms, which was owned and operated by the Dey Family. This was back when they were commercial breeders. Perhaps one of the best known was world champion HH Shadow (a filly), who finished second in the Cane Pace. Heritage Hill also stood HOTY Isle of Wight, and one of the last stallions they stood was Jaguar Spur. The Dey family has a long and well known history in NJ racing, the NJ Sire Stakes program, and NJ breeding as well. They eventually stopped using the HH moniker. Several of the family members became very prominent vets, Dr. Steve Dey (II), and his sons, Dr. Steve Dey III, and Dr. Greg Dey.
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R Ridiculous
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Putting the breeders info in the program under the ownership has to be the dumbest thing ever. Gamblers don't care about that stuff. Who comes up with these ideas anyway, why not concentrate on fixing what is broken. As for the names, I always change my yearlings name.
Why not include it? These horse come from somewhere. If not for the breeders, the sport falls on its ass (more than it already is). Not only do you want to take their naming conventions, but also any mention of them at all.
Racing has its problems but listing the breeder in the program surely isn't one of them.
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I don't think Leavitt ever used a letter system for Lobell. Back in those days the most famous breeder to do that was the Armstrong Brothers. The Armbros all had the same letter for their last name which would change every year.
But they had used "Lobell" when naming horses
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A regional breeder in New Hampshire many years back used the moniker, Mountain in naming his foals. He also used the alphabet in the first name of the foal. I remember in 1978 he was at letter J . Mountain Jester, Mountain Jiggle...
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My buddy lives in Boulder Block Creek. All his horses were BBC, like BBC Larry, BBC Montel, BBC Leroy. I few went on to be decent studs.
Absolutely. BBC Lover, BBC Bare, BBC Queen of Spades etc. All good.
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Earnest P. Worrell
"Pembroke"
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Putting the breeders info in the program under the ownership has to be the dumbest thing ever. Gamblers don't care about that stuff. Who comes up with these ideas anyway, why not concentrate on fixing what is broken. As for the names, I always change my yearlings name.
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Sometimes you have no choice - there are some really bad names out there!
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Absolutely. BBC Lover, BBC Bare, BBC Queen of Spades etc. All good.
Oh yea, I remember going two trips with BBC Bare. Kant-See Back, Knee boots and a tounge tie.